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Quote# 140562

Martin: No, you have a problem with what the Bible says. The Bible destroys our belief in our own morality, simply because we aren't moral. Our acts, outside of Christ, are always sinful.

Johnny25343: Nope my issue is that when Evangelicals attempt to use Scripture to say what you want it to say some of you are masterful at it. I congratulate you

Martin: You don't think I've had to change my opinion to accommodate what Scripture says?

Ts (unami): The motive to feed hungry people is sinful? The motive to heal their physical wounds is sinful?

Martin: If their motive isn't the glory of God it is sinful.

Martin, Premier 3 Comments [9/20/2018 2:48:48 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140555

I say way to go cop lady. It's about time somebody starts roughing up these filthy bastards. Homeless people are everywhere. They stink, the make a mess, and the take away from the aesthetic value business try to maintain. Nobody wants to walk into McDonald's and enjoy 20 mcnuggets with one of these filthy slobs staring them down.

I just went to the San Francisco area. There's bums and scumbags everywhere. Then there's all kinds of services going around to help them out, but they don't take them. Maybe if the cops start pushing them around they'll get the point. Get off the street, and if you can't do for yourself, accept the help of one of the thousands of programs out there for you. Also, let's not forget, if that was a black homeless guy, she would have just shot him.

Kona, Roosh V Forum 2 Comments [9/20/2018 2:46:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140557

Unchaste handling of males and females

Lasciviousness is applicable to any form of dance that, outside the bonds of marriage, would involve touching body areas that are sensitive to sexual stimulation. This will include any dancing that brings couples too close or touching in full frontal contact. This condemns the typical popular slow dance that involves a full body embrace for long time with swaying and rubbing the bodies together.

These are basically the very kinds of modern dancing that are typically engaged at many high school proms, sock hops, holiday parties, discotheques, and nightspots. The sin of lasciviousness rules out this kind of dancing, and the faithful Christian will not participate.

Lasciviousness enters into not only popular modern nightclub dancing but can actually enter any of the styles or forms of dancing previously listed. For example, the hokey pokey of childhood games is innocent enough when a foot, elbow, or head-bone is the body part "shaken all about." When the dance calls for the "tail-bone" to be shaken all about, it crosses the line. We may think it's cute and harmless for children to do this, but we are effectively teaching them this kind of bodily movement in dance is okay for them when they get older.

Dancing can send a very powerful message and hold a strong influence upon us. We have seen in scripture where dancing aided the loss of self-control, lowered inhibitions, and resulted in irreverent behavior (Exodus 32:25). Scripture has also shown us that dancing can cloud our thinking and provoke us to do things we would not normally do if we were not otherwise distracted by desires of the flesh (Mark 6:22). It is very easy for young couples struggling to remain pure while unmarried to engage in unlawful sexual activity after being so strongly stimulated with dance.

Unknown author, Speaking Sound Doctrine 1 Comments [9/20/2018 2:46:45 AM]
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Quote# 49446

Science and the Bible are in perfect alignment.

What the arrogant fools who believe in evolution don't understand is that it simply is wrong because there's no evidence for it.

Evolution is wrong not because of Religion or Christianity or the Bible. Evolution is wrong because there's simply no evidence that we evolved from lower species.

Lack of evidence doesn't make a wacko theory a fact.

Norrin Rad, Rapture Ready 35 Comments [10/11/2008 7:18:17 AM]
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Submitted By: JohnTheAtheist

Quote# 140563

For a long time I have been urging the left to engage in dialogue with us. I complain that they will neither listen to us nor speak to us, and that this will end in war, and mass murder.

Well, suddenly they have started to talk at us, with leftist NPCs showing up on reactionary blogs and lecturing right wingers on twitter and facebook. Listening, not so much. Their stuff tends to be robotic and spammy. Attempting to interact with them is like talking to an NPC (Non Player Character) in a video game. To some extent they actually are NPCs – we are seeing stuff that looks as if generated by Google’s AI, and that AI programmed by people who has no understanding of, nor interest in, the ideas of the people he is supposedly addressing. Looks very like a hasty makeover of a similar operation and similar software directed against Muslims, with the major change in the software being a global search for Mohammed, and a global replace with Moldbug or Heartiste.

To some extent it seems to be actual humans who are mechanically following a script written for them by someone else, and who are not allowed to deviate from the script, which sooner or later results in them being endlessly repetitious, somewhat resembling a non player character in a video game, but more resembling one of those highly unhelpful telephone help systems, where one is talking to an actual human, but if your problem is not one of the very limited set of problems covered by the script that that human is required to follow, you are sol, and find yourself trapped in the same script over and over.

It is an improvement, a genuine attempt to get off the path leading to civil war. Not really an adequate attempt, since to the extent that it is actual humans, those humans are not permitted to show comprehension of the ideas that they are attempting to rebut, and crimestop genuinely prevents them from comprehending the ideas that they are attempting to rebut. In place of dialog being totally forbidden, we are getting the superficial appearance of dialog, but so severely supervised and tightly controlled that it is not genuine dialog.

They make their preprogrammed argument, you make the obvious and well known counterargument, which is not covered by the script, even though it was first made one hundred and seventy years ago, and they repeat their original preprogrammed argument, claiming to observe and to have experienced the reality that progressives are trying to wish into existence.

Jim, Jim's Blog 1 Comments [9/20/2018 2:49:16 AM]
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Quote# 140513

Abortion has created a society that lets us ignore the struggles of desperate women because abortion is an ‘easy fix’. Instead of choosing to respect and comfort pregnant teenagers, we tell them to quietly get an abortion before anyone notices and judges them. Instead of changing the way our school systems work to accommodate pregnant students, we tell them to change and get an abortion. Instead of choosing to offer financial support to desperate mothers, we tell them to get an abortion because it costs less money. Instead of learning about genetic disabilities and creating a society that welcomes and accepts them, we get rid of them before they’re even born so we never have to face them.

When we tell a woman to abort, we force her to change because it’s a hell of a lot easier than changing what’s wrong with us.

Abortion is the greatest exploitation of women, as Alice Paul said. Stop telling us that abortion is the only option. We have convinced women that they cannot possibly be happy or successful unless they do something that not only does them physical and mental trauma, but also kills a child, all so we don’t have to worry about their problems.

This is oppression.

threearmadillosinapriestcostume, Tumblr 7 Comments [9/19/2018 6:03:34 PM]
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Quote# 72025

We Christians gave the World Easter - what did we get from...?
What did we get from Atheists and Evolutionists?

They enjoy our Holy day and in return they give us pond scum (Richard Dawkins)

"Yes, we are all animals, descendants of a vast lineage of replicators sprung from primordial pond scum."
(J. Morgan, "The new social Darwinists", Scientific American 273(4): 150-157, October 1995; quote on p. 151)

What else they will give us this Easter? They say that we are pagans because we celebrate the death and Resurrection of our Lord on Easter Holy day which they say is paganism.

Logic fail?

Micky GG, Yahoo!Answers 74 Comments [4/6/2010 10:18:51 AM]
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Quote# 140510

As I said when you announced this series, you know nothing about the Bible, about God, about Jesus, about Salvation, about God's strict demand for righteousness, and you're going to "teach" it?. In short you're a hell-bound rebel against all of these and you have made it all about your twisted warped unbelief. You had better repent deeply of your homosexuality first of all. No, you don't practice it but you embraced it when you left the church in support of your homosexual son. And then you had better get on your knees and beg God to forgive you for the rottenness in your soul that is evident in every word you speak,. Finally you need to totally repent of your rebellion against God and His word and take it as literally what it says and live by it and not by what you satan anointed mind tells you. You are totally unqualified to teach even John 3:16. All you can do is spread satanic garbage to lead weak Christians and those of your groupies to hell.

JustMat, Disqus - Grace and Truth 13 Comments [9/19/2018 8:26:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140486

In May of 2015, I published an article entitled “8 steps to confront your wife’s sexual refusal”. In this article I detailed 8 steps that Christian men could take in confronting sexual defraudment on the part of their wives. This article has since become one of the top 5 viewed pages on this blog and this page alone has had about 800,000 views since I first published it. I made some edits to this article over the last few years but essentially it has remained the same. Here are the 8 steps I list for men in confronting their wife’s sexual refusal:

Step 1 – Rebuke her privately

Step 2 – Stop taking her on dates or trips

Step 3 – No unnecessary household upgrades

Step 4 – Stop doing the little extra things

Step 5 – Remove her funding

Step 6 – Rebuke her before witnesses

Step 7 – Bring her before the Church

And then I gave the 8th and final step for husbands if these 7 steps did not bring their wife to repentance:

“What if none of these 7 steps work?

If your wife remains willfully defiant, yet she has not left you, it could be for a variety of reasons. She may not want to lose how she lives with you and she knows that after a divorce her lifestyle will be severely affected, and she does not want to deal with the consequences of divorce. Perhaps she may have some genuine care for you left as well as your children but she simply cannot see the error of her ways and will hold out indefinitely with the hope that one day you will fold and give her back the money, the dates, the trips, the house hold upgrades and she will not have been forced to change her ways.

But you have a final step you may take, one that you need to pray long and hard about before you do.

You have the option to divorce her for her sexual immorality.

“But I tell you, everyone who divorces his wife, except in a case of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” – Matthew 5:32(HCSB)”

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 16 Comments [9/18/2018 2:53:08 AM]
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Quote# 49549

"However, when the interpretation of scientific data contradicts the true history of the world as revealed in the Bible, then it’s the interpretation of the data that is at fault."

Don Batten "Ph.D", Answers in Genesis 53 Comments [10/11/2008 1:07:40 AM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 49552

Evolution is the delusion of the atheist. Evolution equals unintelligent design. Real scientists marvel [and praise God] as they examin the minutest particles of creation, as they find order, design, and replicable laws of nature. Where is JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF UNINTELLIGENT DESIGN?

Pete , MERCER ISLAND, USA, timesonline 58 Comments [10/11/2008 2:15:06 PM]
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Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 49476

Why do Atheists continue to deny the undeniable? Why do they refuse to acknowledge the great sacrifice Jesus made for you?

God created this world.

It is not a difficult concept to grasp and yet people can not. They continue to bleat feebly about 'evolution', can there honestly be anything more ridiculous then claiming we came from apes? And the 'big bang'? I begin to wonder if these deniers of God are really trying at all.

These deniers are responsible for all the wrong happening in this world. Such abominations as same sex couples and a refusal to inform our children about how we came to be is sending us towards the abyss. If we continue on our current path our Lord will surely turn his back on us and we will be doomed for all eternity.

We must rise up, this 'seperation of church and state' crap can not continue. We must do what is right, we will be oppressed no longer!

Holybob, WoW offtiopic 46 Comments [10/11/2008 9:02:11 PM]
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Quote# 49483

What does the Fact that 93% of the Scientists at the National Academy Sciences Foundation are Atheist tell you ?

Answer : That science has corrupted the Earth.

red_head_267, Yahoo Answers 37 Comments [10/12/2008 2:45:49 AM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 49116

The crucial problem with evolution is that it isn't science. According to the scientific method, science is repeatable and observable. The Big Bang isn't repeatable or observeable. Evolution fits more correctly in the religion category, in that it answers the three eternal questions, "Where did we come from?, Why are we here?, and Where are we going?"

naterz_g, popsci 33 Comments [10/12/2008 3:36:39 AM]
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Submitted By: L

Quote# 32490


It might not have been the christian thing to run over that Wiccan symbol, but it was the right AMERICAN thing to do. This country was built by christian doctrine, the laws made in the image of christian law, and every major invention, leader, contribution to this country has been by a christian!

Hospitals, libarries, orphanages, homeless shelters, outreach programs, schools, universities, sports, techonology, factories, innovations, movies.........you name it, it was all brought to us by the christian establishment.
[More quotes from the thread about the wiccan display that was run over by a truck]

What did Wicca bring us? Moron? Athiesm? Catholics? Muslim? Budda? Hinda?

None of those brought any peace and prosparity to this great nation, so why do we feel the need to honor it on the FEDERAL holiday of CHRISTMAS!!

No, I don't cheer on lawbreaking since that isn't biblical, but that thing shouldn't have been up in the first place!!

Freed_From_Sin, Rapture Ready 57 Comments [12/17/2007 11:37:17 PM]
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Quote# 49541

Evolution??? Evolution is a THEORY.
You are welcome to your theory. So are those that believe, or in other words, have a theory that God created man.

Common sense rules out evolution.
Natural selection would dictate that only a few select species would survive.
Why don't pigs fly or talk. Why just monkies able to "evolve".
Why science has observed is ADAPTATION.
There is zero evidence, or observation oof one species becoming a more acompletely new advanced species.

JMAC, ABC News blog 37 Comments [10/12/2008 5:50:15 AM]
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Submitted By: zacky

Quote# 49522

[At first, I thought that this was a attempt at a troll but, after reading more of his responses, I'm convinced that he actually believes this.

In a thread titled "Why atheists aren't real"]

the devil has tricked you into believing God doesn't exist. therefore, you really do believe in God you just don't realize it.

Togarmah, WoW Offtopic 33 Comments [10/12/2008 5:58:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 49631

[BREAKING NEWS -- It rained!]

Did you guys notice.....
It was pouring down rain at the debate last night, and from what I heard...the city was in the middle of a drought. I am not sure where the debate was held, maybe someone could help me with this...but it really showed me who is REALLY in control! God Almighty!!!! It was not only pouring down rain, it was thunder and lightning! Craziness!!

Kvat3r, Rapture Ready 67 Comments [10/12/2008 6:11:48 PM]
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Submitted By: JR

Quote# 79807

[12-year-old is raped, later on, it's discovered she's pregnant because of it. Cue a bunch of dicks saying she shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion. Bolding added for emphasis.]

I think it's something that should have been taken care of at the hospital after the fact to ensure that she would not end up that way. Concieved by a rapist or not, the baby is not to blame. The best mother I know became one at 14. She is not far off. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but she knew it was going to be a real possibility that she would end up pregnant. She should have taken measures necessary at the hospital to avoid it.

Timothy Joseph Michael , The Stir @ Cafe Mom 252 Comments [3/8/2011 3:09:13 PM]
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Quote# 140493

Like we all know, media is full of anti-pedophile message. There is a pedophile/hebephile witch hunt going on. But why doesn't anyone talk about teleiophiles = minors attracted to adults? I'm sure there are many of those preteen girls who like older guys, but because of a modern anti-male culture, men are always seen as abusers and rapists. Also could it be that some of the pedophile-teleiophilic relationships are actually ruined by the social attitudes and the (age of consent) law, not the evil molester monster men?

Timi, The 600 Club 11 Comments [9/18/2018 2:57:37 AM]
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Quote# 140498

Question: "Why is the idea of eternal damnation so repulsive to many people?"

Answer: In the shifting winds of modern cultures, the idea of everlasting torment and damnation is difficult for many people to grasp. Why is this? The Bible makes it clear that hell is a literal place. Christ spoke more about hell than He did of heaven. Not only Satan and his minions will be punished there, everyone who rejects Jesus Christ will spend eternity right along with them. A desire to reject or revise the doctrine of hell will not mitigate its flames or make the place go away. Still, the idea of eternal damnation is spurned by many, and here are some reasons for it:

The influence of contemporary thought. In this postmodern era, many go to great lengths to assure no one is offended, and the biblical doctrine of hell is considered offensive. It is too harsh, too old-fashioned, too insensitive. The wisdom of this world is focused on this life, with no thought of the life to come.

Fear. Never-ending, conscious punishment devoid of any hope is indeed a frightening prospect. Many people would rather ignore the source of fear than face it and deal with it biblically. The fact is, hell should be frightening, considering it is the place of judgment originally created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A flawed view of God’s love. Many who reject the idea of eternal damnation do so because they find it difficult to believe that a loving God could banish people to a place as horrific as hell for all eternity. However, God’s love does not negate His justice, His righteousness, or His holiness. Neither does His justice negate His love. In fact, God’s love has provided the way to escape His wrath: the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 3:16-18).

A downplaying of sin. Some find it shockingly unfair that the recompense for a mere lifetime of sinning should be an eternal punishment. Others reject the idea of hell because, in their minds, sin isn’t all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant eternal torture. Of course, it is usually our own sin that we downplay; other people might deserve hell—murderers and the like. This attitude reveals a misunderstanding of the universally heinous nature of sin. The problem is an insistence on our own basic goodness, which precludes thoughts of a fiery judgment and denies the truth of Romans 3:10 (“There is no one righteous, not even one”). The egregiousness of iniquity compelled Christ to the cross. God hated sin to death.

Aberrant theories. Another reason people reject the concept of eternal damnation is that they have been taught alternative theories. One such theory is universalism, which says that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. Another theory is annihilationism, in which the existence of hell is acknowledged, but its eternal nature is denied. Annihilationists believe that those who end up in hell will eventually die and cease to exist (i.e., they will be annihilated). This theory simply makes hell a temporary punishment. Both these theories are presented as viable options to the biblical teaching on hell; however, both make the mistake of placing human opinion over divine revelation.

Incomplete teaching. Many contemporary pastors who do believe in the doctrine of hell consider it simply too delicate a subject to preach on. This further contributes to the modern denial of hell. Congregants in churches where hell is not preached are ignorant of what the Bible says on the subject and are prime candidates for deception on the issue. A pastor’s responsibility is “to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 1:3), not pick and choose what parts of the Bible to leave out.

Satan’s ploys. Satan’s first lie was a denial of judgment. In the Garden of Eden, the serpent told Eve, “You will not surely die” (Genesis 3:4). It is still one of Satan’s main tactics. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4), and the blindness he produces includes a denial of God’s holy decrees. Convince the unsaved that there is no judgment, and they can “eat, drink and be merry” with no care for the future.

If we understand the nature of our Creator, we should have no difficulty understanding the concept of hell. “[God] is the Rock, His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4, emphasis added). His desire is that no one perish but that all come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

To contradict the Bible’s teaching on hell is to say, essentially, “If I were God, I would not make hell like that.” The problem with such a mindset is its inherent pride—it smugly suggests that we can improve on God’s plan. However, we are not wiser than God; we are not more loving or more just. Rejecting or revising the biblical doctrine of hell carries a sad irony, which one writer put this way: “The only result of attempts, however well meaning, to air-condition hell is to assure that more and more people wind up there.”

Got Questions, Got Questions 22 Comments [9/18/2018 2:59:43 AM]
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Quote# 2682

Something to remember, nothing NOTHING happens without God allowing it to.

We may never know the reason but I am more than confident that there is one.

Servant, Rapture Ready 9 Comments [8/19/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 140508

"No because the embryo and fetus do NOT have rights"

Only because you slaveowners, I mean, womb lynchers, SAY they have no rights!

"By giving the embryo or fetus rights, you are by default enslaving the host to it."

Telling a woman she can't murder her child is NOT slavery.

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Secular Pro-Life Perspectives 12 Comments [9/18/2018 9:39:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140504

The millennial kingdom will be a time of faith, when the majority of the population will become believers. We see that in several Bible passages. Christ will be in charge, so there won’t be immoral or other forms of destructive TV programming available to blind men’s minds to the gospel. Body-damaging substances will not be available, so people will not have their minds so fogged that they cannot fairly appraise the truths of Scripture. Satan will be bound so he should “deceive the nations no more.” The university chairs of learning will not be dominated by atheists set on turning the minds of young people away from God. Instead, all education will start from the premise, “In the beginning GOD!” In such an academic climate, young people will be more open than ever to the claims of God and Christ on their lives. Even art forms will glorify Christ during the millennial kingdom. Jeremiah 31:31-34 indicates that everyone will be so acquainted with the gospel that no one will need to share it with his neighbor.

Isaiah 65:20 indicates that unbelievers will die “being 100 years old.” That suggests enormous consequences for the high percentage of believers living at that time, for it indicates that only Christians will live beyond their hundredth birthday. Evidently God will give people 100 years to decide about Christ. If they accept Him, they are permitted to live on for the rest of the kingdom period. But no sinner will survive his hundredth birthday. That fact alone would mean that only Christians will be alive to propagate and raise children after they are l00 years old. Based on this fact, along with the ideal cultural environment present during this era, it is possible that as high as 80 percent or more of the population will be saved during that age.

The government and politics of the millennial kingdom will focus on the benevolent reign of Jesus Christ as Israel’s Messiah-King. It will be a theocracy centered in Jerusalem, where Jesus will reign as both Messiah and King of Israel, thus fulfilling God’s prophetic promise to King David in the Davidic Covenant. God’s covenant with David guaranteed David’s dynasty, throne, and kingdom would continue forever. When Jesus Christ returns at the end of the Tribulation, He will reestablish the Davidic throne in His personal rule. Other significant passages describing Christ’s reign over Israel include Psalm 2, Isaiah 9:6-7, Jeremiah 33:20-26, Ezekiel 34:23-25 and 37:23-24, and Luke 1:32-33. These and other Bible passages provide ample specific evidence that the kingdom promised to David will be fully realized in the future.

Daniel Whyte III, Black Christian News 13 Comments [9/18/2018 12:49:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140499

Question: "Is the universe eternal?"

Answer: The Bible makes it clear that the universe is not eternal, that it had a beginning, and that the beginning was its creation by God (Genesis 1:1). This truth has been denied by philosophers and pseudo-scientists who have come up with a variety of different theories in an effort to “prove” the eternality of the universe. Further, atheists will say that matter and energy are eternal, following the first law of thermodynamics—“Energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but it can neither be created nor destroyed.”

Philosophically, why do we have something rather than nothing at all? If the universe had a beginning, then it must have a cause, and therefore cannot be eternal. And every drop of evidence we have points to the universe having a beginning, but this truth is not something welcomed by naturalists and atheists. Numerous scientifically minded atheists have expressed a desire to find a loophole to the scientific fact that the present order of nature had a beginning. Unfortunately for them, such a loophole does not exist. Here are five proofs that the universe is not eternal:

(1) The universe is running down, and something that is running down must have started at some point. The second law of thermodynamics states that the universe is running out of usable energy and if you doubt this, look in the mirror (you’re aging and running down just like everything else).

(2) The universe is expanding. This was confirmed through the Hubble telescope many years ago, and it is interesting to note that the universe is expanding from a single point, meaning the entire universe could be contracted back into a single point. Also, note that the universe is not expanding into space, but space itself is expanding.

(3) The radiation echo was discovered by Bell Labs scientists in 1965. What is it? It is the heat afterglow from the Big Bang. Its discovery dealt a death blow to any theory of the universe being in a steady state because it shows instead that the universe exploded.

(4) Galaxy Seeds. Scientists believe that, if the Big Bang is true (first, there was nothing, then, BANG, something came into being), then temperature “ripples” should exist in space, and it would be these ripples that enabled matter to collect into galaxies. To discover whether these ripples exist, the Cosmic Background Explorer – COBE – was launched in 1989 to find them, with the findings being released in 1992. What COBE found was perfect/precise ripples that, sure enough, enable galaxies to form. So critical and spectacular was this finding that the NASA lead for COBE, said, “If you’re religious, it’s like looking at God.”

(5) Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity means that the universe had a beginning and was not eternal as he had previously believed (Einstein was originally a pantheist). His theory proved that the universe is not a cause, but instead one big effect—something brought it into existence. Einstein disliked his end result so much that he introduced a “fudge factor” into his theory that allowed for an eternal universe. But there was only one problem. His fudge factor required a division by zero in his calculations—a mathematical error any good math student knows not to make. When discovered by other mathematicians, Einstein admitted his error calling it “the greatest blunder of my life.” After his acknowledgment, and upon confirming further research that showed the universe expanding just as his theory of relativity predicted, Einstein bowed to the fact that the universe is not eternal and said that he wanted “to know how God created the world.”

Further, it should be understood that every effect must resemble its cause. This is because, simply put, you cannot give what you do not have, so it is impossible for an effect to possess something its originating cause did not have. That being the case, how can one believe that an impersonal, amoral, purposeless, and meaningless universe accidentally created beings that are full of personality, morals, meaning, and purpose? Only mind can create mind. In the end it is either matter before mind or mind before matter, and all scientific, philosophical, and reasonable evidence points to the latter.

In conclusion, we find that all scientific evidence points to the fact that the universe had a beginning, just as the Bible states, and that a Cause must exist that resembles all we know today. As Lord Kelvin, a British scientist once said, "If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God."

Got Questions, Got Questions 8 Comments [9/18/2018 3:00:02 AM]
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