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Quote# 133278

I agree with you completely. I think TERF as a label scares women away from even engaging with radical thought at all, lest they become one of the punchable, rapeable women. It's really a brilliant propaganda campaign to keep people from listening to us at all, because if they did, 15 seconds of critical thought would undermine a lot of the gender identity doctrine.

ma-vie-en-rose, r/GenderCritical 5 Comments [10/21/2017 10:29:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133286

(commenting on story "Wyoming Man Who Identifies as Woman Convicted of Raping Girl in Residential Restroom")

Amos Moses:
SIN is SIN ..... no one is immune .......... confusion about what is evil affects everyone ..... embracing of a FALSE sexuality not of the Creator God ..... is evil ....... and the embrace of evil ........... and is SIN ............

The Pantomime Princess Margaret:
Doing what this guy did (i.e. rape) is the sin. Being transgendered, if in fact he is, isn't a "sin".

Amos Moses:
wrong .... it is a sin .... it is a forgivable sin .... ACTUALLY both are forgivable sins ..... but they are both still SIN .............

The Pantomime Princess Margaret:
No, because being transgendered only means you believe you are not the same gender on the inside as you are on the outside. It's a huge stretch to call that a sin because it's not.

Amos Moses:
"you believe you are not the same "
and it is a false belief and a sin ...............

The Pantomime Princess Margaret:
They're talking about themselves...their OWN situations. How can it be false when you're talking about yourself? Are you trying to tell me that ALL transgendered people are in on a great big conspiracy together where they are ALL lying to the world?

Amos Moses:
"They're talking about themselves...their OWN situations."
so what ........ it is a denial of science ..... it is a denial of DNA ....... it is a denial of reality ..... people have no ability to change or determine reality ........ theirs or anyone elses ...... it is sinful desire .... it is sin .... our "feels" are not a determining factor of truth .........

The Pantomime Princess Margaret:
No, the only one denying science here is yourself. Your arbitrary definition of SIN is what's causing the problem here. You can only talk about your own reality, not someone else's. I don't know what it's like to be transgender either, but that doesn't mean I tell the people who are experiencing it that they are touchy-feely liars. I leave it to the experts in the scientific field. So should you.

Amos Moses:
nope .... i deny FALSE science ..... and saying we have any input into out gender is pure false science and fantasy and sin .........

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 11 Comments [10/21/2017 10:36:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133306

Everything about the Left is fake. Their overriding characteristic is scorn of truth. Truth for its own sake is not even a consideration. They call themselves "liberals" though there is nothing liberal about them. They claim to be tolerant, just, and free from hate, but they are the opposite. There is also nothing "progressive" about them. They mistake iconoclasm for liberalism.

Everything about them and their policies is based on untruth--lies--distortions--deception--propaganda. Even today, when they profess such outrage at Weinstein, they pointedly ignore Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and all the rest. They simply cannot be honest.

They also cannot be honest about Obama, his birth, his birth certificate, his college records. They worship some fantasy about him and the importance of having a President of African descent (which nobody discounts), and so important is the fantasy to them that they cannot be truthful about it or anything that threatens it. They cannot be truthful about anything. Scorn of truth is their most fundamental evil. The rest follows.

Savage Beast, Free Republic 11 Comments [10/21/2017 4:33:18 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133280

Has anyone ever explained exactly what is wrong with being trans-exclusionary? They're mostly big, scary and mentally unstable, clowns without a circus. Quiet as it's kept, NOBODY really thinks they're women.

linfan1, r/GenderCritical 14 Comments [10/21/2017 10:30:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133311

Exodus 21:16 dictates the death penalty for kidnappers. Because every rape constitutes a kidnapping, under a biblical law, if convicted, this man should not be put in prison at innocent taxpayers' expense. He should be put to death expeditiously, per Ecclesiastes 8:11.

That the innocent (including this child's parents) are liable for the housing, clothing, feeding, and entertainment of society's criminals in an unbiblical penal system is but more evidence of the biblically seditious nature of America's Constitutional Republic. Time to get back to our true biblical foundations as evidenced in 17th-century Puritan America.

Under the Bible's juridical system prisons are superfluous. Convicted capital criminals are put to death expeditiously, per Ecclesiastes 8:11. Non-capital criminal are required to pay two to five times restitution (depending upon the nature of the crime) to their VICTIMS, per Exodus 22:1ff, etc. If a thief is unable to pay the required restitution, he's to be sold into indentured servitude until restitution has been paid, per Exodus 22:3. If he refuses to pay restitution, his contempt of court is a capital crime for which he's to be put to death expeditiously, per Deuteronomy 17:9-13.

Perfect, just like King David said it was in Psalm 19:7-11. Under such a system, crime would be all but unheard of and tax-paid-for prisons would non-existent.

For more on how Yahweh's triune moral law (His Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and judgments) applies and should be implemented today, see free online book "Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant." Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

Ted R. Weiland, Christian News Network 20 Comments [10/21/2017 4:33:47 PM]
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Quote# 19430

last time a checked, the result of our actions is something that we're usually made to be responsible for. Sex and baby making are not somthing that you can separate. The fact is, whether or not your body makes a baby or not is not somthing that you choose to do or not. The only thing that you can consent to is sex. Therefore, the CHOICE is whether to have sex or not.

If consenting to your body making a baby was a "choice" to be made then there would be nothing to abort, because you could just refuse to consent to it being there in the first place. But its there, you already consented to it being there when you had sex

Michael, Myspace 38 Comments [1/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 19445

[In a thread on... whether or not fact and opinion are the same? wtf?]

I've tried avoiding this debate for it's utter absurdity (the title is an oxymoron) but, it seems most of you share the same opinion of the few topics I bring to this forum, so here I am.

It stands to reason that many scientists have overlooked this question entirely, rather accepting many theories as fact, and basing many more theories upon them, when in reality if one were to be disproven, they would all crumble to the ground, and we'd have to start over from scratch reshaping all of our ideas about anyone school of science. The theory of relativity is one of these, upon which countless ideas about physics and the relation of objects and enerygy within our known world have been created. Einstein reported several times throughout his memoirs that he thought he was wrong about this, and invited people to disprove him...though no one ever really tried. Through the simple processes of logic while observing many things that are obvious about our world and energy in general, we can see what Einstein forgot, or simply left out of his famous energy equation; E=MC^2. Frequency, density, modulation, and countless other aspects of matter and energy have simply been overlooked. To say that accelerating any one mass to the speed of light squared would transform it into energy...is proposturous. It is to assume that the speed of light is the end all velocity of the Universe, the fastest any object could ever travel...ever. Quantum physics challenges this theory on many levels, as does the idea of a fourth dimension, and the existance of a black hole...yet given these flaws apparent in Einsteins theory, we still base most of our ideas concerning physics on that one basic principle.

EoD, The Gaming Universe 37 Comments [1/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 133213

Many Christians celebrate holidays, such as Halloween, without thinking about their origins or true meaning. It is impossible to separate Halloween from the Druids because they originated the "holiday."

For several hundred years before Christ, the Celts inhabited what is now France, Germany, England, Scotland and Ireland. Celtic priests were called Druids. These people were eventually conquered by the Romans.

Information about the Celts and Druids comes from Caesar and the Roman historians, Greek writings from about 200 B.C., and very early records found in Ireland. Greek and Roman writings about the Druids dwell heavily on their frequent and barbaric human sacrifices. The ancient Irish texts say little about human sacrifices, but detail the Druids' use of magic to raise storms, lay curses on places, kill by the use of spells, and create magical obstacles.

Human Sacrifices
Davies, however, a 16th century writer who traced his family lineage directly back to Druid priests who fought against Caesar, clearly describes the human sacrifices of his ancestors and the secret sacrifices still performed regularly by the Druids of his time.

By 47 A.D., Rome finally defeated the Druids in Britain and outlawed human sacrifices. The few remaining Druids went underground.

Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice. Those in England still perform ceremonies at Stonehenge.


November 1st was the Celtic new year
October 31st was celebrated by the Druids with many human sacrifices and a festival honoring their sun god and Samhain, the lord of the dead. They believed that the sinful souls of those who died during the year were in a place of torment, and would be released only if Samhain was pleased with their sacrifices.


Monks Fascinated By Druids
Irish records tell of the fascination the Catholic monks had with the powerful Druids, and Druids soon became important members of their monasteries. Pope Gregory the Great decided to incorporate the Druids' holiday into the church. He made the proclamation, "They are no longer to sacrifice beasts to the devil, but they may kill them for food to the praise of God, and give thanks to the giver of all gifts for His bounty." Pope Gregory III moved the church festival of October 31st to November 1st and called it All Hallows or All Saints' Day. Pope Gregory IV decreed that the day was to be a universal church observance. The term Halloween comes from All Hallows Eve.

The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday. Halloween was not widely celebrated in the U.S. until about 1900. In the 1840's there was a terrible potato famine in Ireland which sent thousands of Catholic Irish to America. They brought Halloween with them.

The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The tradition of bobbing for apples and giving out nuts came from a Roman addition to the Druidic New Year’s eve. The Romans worshiped Pomona who was the goddess of the harvest. They combined their harvest festival to Pomona with Halloween.

Very little archeological evidence of the Druids has been found, but there is excellent agreement between the Roman and Irish documents. Both clearly state that the knowledge of the Druids was never committed to writing but passed from generation to generation by oral teaching. This was to protect their secrets. In his writings, Davies indicates that he came under much persecution by his family for putting in writing his information about Druids. The same is true today. Nothing is put into writing. The Druids continue on secretly with much the same traditions.

The widespread problem of harmful substances such as razor blades, drugs, poisons, needles, etc. being placed in the Halloween treats here in America is no accident. Testimonies of several ex-Satanists show that these children killed and injured by the "treats" are sacrifices to Satan (or Samhain). Satanists throughout the world continue to perform human sacrifices on Halloween.

Is this something you want YOUR child to participate in?

Jack Chick, Chick 22 Comments [10/19/2017 3:43:07 PM]
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Quote# 133282

[age of the universe]

It's simple to get a fairly accurate measurement. Count the generations (32 years average between generations) from Jesus back to Adam. Keep in mind the preflood extended ages, and voila. You have a fairly accurate estimate of 6500 years. Science has honed it to 6854 years using radiometric dating.

anonymous, Y! answers 11 Comments [10/21/2017 10:30:16 AM]
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Adam Ford, Adam4d 13 Comments [10/21/2017 10:30:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 133293

When I went to school (not a faith school) we were taught only about Christianity, which then was the religion of Great Britain. The teaching of other religions which are false, was not even thought about, nor should it be. The sooner we get back to Christian Assemblies and lessons in our schools the better our nation will be.

Col, BBC Comments 8 Comments [10/21/2017 10:43:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133308

We heard for many decades that the USSR's gulags were death camps, but the actual info from soviet documents showed about 95-97% survival ratings, and those killed include executed nazi soldiers, common alleged criminals, etc. Plus the massive spike in death tolls was in the middle of WW2- exactly when resources were limited & when any captured/surrendered Nazis were being executed. ie, we were all lied to. The USSR 1940s "courts" may have been a sham, but the same is true in the USA- ask anyone black.

anticapitalist, r/DebateaCommunist 6 Comments [10/21/2017 4:33:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133283



Adam Ford, Adam4d 10 Comments [10/21/2017 10:30:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 133302

(This fundie is talking about Muslims)

Good God Almighty…

Am I the only person who looks at these freaks and thinks they are totally mentally ill? I can’t imagine any normal human being looking at themselves in a mirror dressed like these imbeciles and think it is a normal way to dress… They look like some form of a mutated “Creature From The Black Lagoon…”

Here’s to hoping there will come a time when these things are totally extinct…and I mean totally…not just contained in some middle eastern zoo, but eradicated from the entire face of the earth…

Amboyduke, Bare Naked Islam 8 Comments [10/21/2017 4:31:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133267

A Texas city located about 30 miles from Houston asks people who apply for grant funding to pay for Hurricane Harvey repairs to promise not to boycott Israel.

The city of Dickinson, Tx. posted an application form to its website for relief money collected from donations to the Dickinson Harvey Relief fund about two months after Hurricane Harvey hit the Texas coastline. A provision of the application asks people to verify they do not boycott Israel and to promise not to do so during the terms of the agreement.

City of Dickinson, TX, TIME 9 Comments [10/21/2017 4:12:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu’s On First

Quote# 133277

I think a lot of them do get it, but they prefer to lie about it. Trans doctrine does not hold up to scrutiny - it is inconsistent, contradictory, revolves around male fantasies and fetishes, is not supported by any serious science.

All they have is their bullshit propaganda: "terfs are murdering us - omg h8ters - ciswhite blah blah - exclusionary !" What is a "TERF" in reality ? Any woman who knows how babies are made and thinks that we have a right to our boundaries (ie to say "no thanks" to dick)

endthewoo, r/GenderCritical 6 Comments [10/21/2017 10:29:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133309

The mistake is that astrology is not a science at all. The best explanation I ever got for astrology is it infers 'influences' which if you are not actively working towards taking advantage of then you miss the boat.

Another semi-good one is it is like the daily weather forecast. Big point is to be 'aware' and not looking for excuses for your own ignorance. If the forecast is for rain - be prepared - and bring an umbrella with you! Also, any newspaper astrology is terrible examples. The real ones - over time - prove their interpretation skills.

I have seen it work well when the astrologer truly understands their work. In all honesty though I have - after 20 years as a customer of many - found only 1 I stick with as he is 95% on the mark. One other I read (England-based) is more for added perspective but she is like 60% correct in my experience.

These millenials? Heh - good luck to them. Hillary lost because she is STILL a bad candidate - and sore loser who makes Al Gore's whining (not 'winning') in 2000 pale in comparison. Hillary is after all - a Scorpio woman. HINT: Unless you are a sadomasochist don't EVER date one. You have been warned....

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 10 Comments [10/21/2017 4:33:27 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 19422


[From a thread about Conan O'Brien's recent jokes about Jebus...]

To: JTHomes

"I am not sure the joke was directed at Jesus. The point of the bit seems to be that this dumb country singer is so homophobic that he even puts Jesus under suspicion, which, because it is ridiculous, is what makes it funny. Although, not married, in your 30's living with your mother, makes you wonder....(sorry, I sometimes can't resist offending the easily offended, but that was JUST a joke)"

Anything that tries to push an homosexual agenda on people, be it humor, sarcasm, or ridicule via tongue and cheek is a joke that is lobbed towards Jesus. This joke was directed in several directions at once with it's splatter effect, ie. southerners, religious, cowboys, and people of morality... Homophobe is the liberals invention to counter their Moralphobia. Moralphobia translates into Christphobia.

Sorry, but Conan crosses the boundary with this one, his whole show (and several of his late night competitors) is to take the low road for a laugh, and most people that have any backbone avoid it like the plague.

BTW... the easily offended (as you like to call us) has watched as these so called entertainers have dragged morality down to the dirt and then want to press it in your face. We have watched lately as Janet Jackson throws her boobs in our face on prime time without warning, we have watched as government redefines "marriage". We have seen what it has done to our nation.

It about time some actually got offended. IMHO...

LowOil, Free Republic 31 Comments [1/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Long Cut

Quote# 133310

A Muslim can't marry a christian or a jew, that is too general a statement. A Muslim man can marry a chaste female christian or a jew.

And in Islam the male is head of the household, so he controls the situation. He would treat her good like he does any wife, and obviously she would be briefed on the situation and not try and be a negative influence on him or his children. Otherwise it's not appropriate to befriend females in the first place. The wife is not a teacher or a mentor, and not someone that the man looks up to for instruction in life.

As for the topic in general, you should read the entire surat Al Maa'idah, interesting verses in there regarding kuffar in general. Notice all the verses stating how they will try to steer you away from your religion, and anyone who has had dealings with kuffar must have noticed this, especially if they are religious ones. I've dealt nicely at work with religious christians before, they will try and drop hints here and there that, you know, maybe this Islamic way of doing things is not correct. Or maybe this rule here is not ideal. Actually you can see we have a couple on here already in a huff about it and we're not even their friends.

Really when dealing with these people, the vast difference between you and them should make it clear you really are a stranger, as if from another planet because of just how different their ways of thinking are, and not in a good way. The things they are fixated on, the manner with which they view the world, much of it is rejected by a Muslim and extensive dealings with them should be avoided lest you be influenced. When you go to college I think it's safe to say you will see some Muslims who do have extensive dealings with kuffar and take them as friends. Their behavior and views are commonly heavily influenced and their walaa' and baraa' completely shot.

Ail, Ummah 2 Comments [10/21/2017 4:33:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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Ferd, Disqus - Mod Whine 2.0 16 Comments [10/20/2017 9:37:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 19426

As I already said numerous times, the universe (or multiverse) does not have the property of being able to create itself. A creator does. And a creator also has the property of creating itself. It is the most logical answer.

Yeah 'Goddidit'.

Avatar, Christian Forums 37 Comments [1/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: JustinGG

Quote# 19530

Hello all. Frosty E Hardison here. Yeah it's really ME!

On something as simple as faith? You either have it or you don't.

On something as simple as having a testimony that Jesus Christ has taken an active part in your life? You either have one or you don't. If you don't have it, you walk around in life an empty shell – often times you don't even know it! Once you are filled with HIM and the unconditional love that He is all about? You KNOW what it was to be empty and you want to help others discover the truth too. Scientists can't measure that.

On something as simple as the age of the earth? I can do the math, the lineage provided in Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 that give the genealogy of Jesus Christ (Matthew recorded Joseph's lineage, while Luke gave the family tree of Mary) places us at what right about 12,000 years today?

As far as science goes? Observational science and speculation of new ideas? Oh yeah, what we see is what we get. Or is it an optical illusion? I have no problems keeping an open mind for new ideas, perspectives and sources of information… the thing is, even under strict circumstances: Can we as fallible humans be mis-interpreting the data that is being read? As a data and systems analyst I have to ask that question all the time. Same goes for the carbon 14 factor. Where do the calculations come from that the world is several billions of years old when carbon 14 data is only good for a few thousand years? Then when you look at the methodology of HOW carbon 14 itself is produced you come into several variances to consider as well. Under what circumstances are there fewer occurrences of C14 being produced – what increases and what decreases it? Is it steady? Is it stable? What factors produce the absorption rates into tissues, fossils and specimens we are looking at? Do they differ or vary by diet, climate, solar variances? As a hobbyist in science myself, I at least still ask those questions.

I would rather have a human witness to cross examine than a machine of any kind – any day. Neither are infallible, but at least one of them can reason, think and extrapolate a conclusion weighing ALL the evidence rather than a preprogrammed set of line codes that can be out of calibration at any given time.

And if you want a spokes person for global warming – I would have chosen Ben Stein! Not AL Gore. Have a wonderful day.

FHardison, RichardDawkins.net 28 Comments [1/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Robert Smith

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Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 25 Comments [10/20/2017 1:25:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133292

A man who showed a beheading video to a child has been jailed for six years. Pharmacist Zameer Ghumra, of Leicester, tried to brainwash primary school-age children into supporting the so-called Islamic State. Ghumra, 38, who told boys they should kill people who insulted Islam, was convicted at Nottingham Crown Court of disseminating "terrorist propaganda". Judge Gregory Dickinson QC said it was a "determined effort" to radicalise children and turn them into terrorists.

He said the targeting of children made the case "particularly serious". "These were shocking crimes which damaged the children and caused offence to the vast majority of law abiding Muslims," the judge added. He also noted there had been an "absence of remorse" from Ghumra. The court heard Ghumra posted pro ISIS content on social media.

The court heard one of the boys had been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and another was finding it difficult to sleep and was "afraid of snipers". During his trial the prosecution said Ghumra "brainwashed" the children, instructing them to not have non-Muslim friends and asking if they wanted to join IS or help recruit others to its ranks. The older boy described being shown "horrible and disgusting" beheading videos, and said he asked Ghumra "how can you behead people?". He said the pharmacist replied: "If you truly believe in Allah, you can do it."

Ghumra also followed various IS-linked social media accounts and made the two children follow similar accounts. The jury was told Ghumra had rented out houses with the intention of setting up a madrasa - an Islamic religious school. Ghumra, of Haringworth Road, was convicted of disseminating "terrorist propaganda" in the form of a graphic Twitter video on his mobile phone, between January 2013 and September 2014. Det Ch Supt Martin Snowden, head of Counter Terrorism Policing North East, said Ghumra "willingly abused a position of trust" by showing children "a violent and explicit beheading video with no regard for the profound effect the disturbing material may have on them". "That act alone is unforgivable," he added. "His teaching role increases his risk, potentially giving him direct access to young or vulnerable people who may look up to him as an authority figure."

Zameer Ghumra, BBC News 9 Comments [10/21/2017 10:42:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133266

Hi! Can non-black woman refer to their hair as "naturally x". Like, I've always referred to my hair as naturally curly, but if that's appropriative then I will stop doing that. I'm sorry if this is bothersome or if I'm really missing something! Thank you for reading!

millatheshieldmaiden , Cultural Appropriation on Tumblr  9 Comments [10/21/2017 4:10:38 AM]
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