Quote# 134794

"When Operation Underground Railroad founder Tim Ballard looks at the latest artwork by conservative political painter Jon McNaughton, he gets emotional.

"Painted into The Underground Railroad are Ballard and his wife, depicted carrying children they helped rescue from sex trafficking.

"Ballard, a former U.S. Homeland Security special agent, appreciates the symbolism of the artwork’s historical figures, including Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln. They are flanked by figures whom the painter refers to as 'contemporary abolitionists' or 'slave stealers': Ballard’s friends and supporters, ranging from Tony Robbins and Glenn Beck to Utah Rep. Mia Love."

[Emphases added]

Jon McNaughton, The Salt Lake Tribune 11 Comments [12/3/2017 10:00:57 AM]
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Submitted By: The Angry Dybbuk

Quote# 134780

You are cherry picking from one person. To adequately support your argument you need to verify that these statements are supported by what other Creationists say about this topic. I can assure of the the following though...

1. Creationists actively study the dinosaurs and their fossils

2. The reference to the more modern term of 'dinosaur' is explained so that we can examine ancient cultures and languages to see what words or descriptors they may use as an alternative to the word dinosaur.

3. Long age evolutionists won't even bother to check this out because they automatically assume that the dinosaurs died out long before man appeared.

4. Evolutionists reject evidence that does not fit their narrative, such as when fossils are found in the wrong rock strata, or when footprints from a human are found alongside dinosaurs.

5. Evolution can't explain why scientists are finding soft tissue in dinosaur bones.

MarkSC, CARM 8 Comments [12/2/2017 3:32:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134781

Darwinism fails on several accounts:

It does not consider the existence of the individual organism with its focus on its material constituents, genetic molecular changes. It sees as the driving force, merely the electrochemical processes of atoms, which are said to underlie the complexity we find in life. This is all said to be random. The shaping of living forms is held to be survival until procreation, when clearly so many factors are involved in mating, both physical and emotional. It speaks of species, thereby recognizing that they are more than abstractions, in conflict with the idea of this being a purely physical cosmos. The focus on molecules and species neglects the reality of ecosystems. An individual animal or plant exists solely because it is at the same time, part of a greater whole.

It fails most clearly and completely when we contemplate our own existence:

As I see this screen, pause to collect and connect these thoughts, feel the wonder, and move my thumb over individual letters, one person, the explanatory value of Darwinism is reduced to the infinitesimal. I can understand how the physical structure of the phone, in this setting that contains my still functioning brain, shapes the relationship I have with the material world and unknown persons with whom I am communicating. That material code running on the computer that is my relational Spirit results in this whole, cleaved into bits and pieces of experience while remaining one. All this complexity, to what end but the journey of creature to its Maker. Without God, without any acknowledgement of life’s ultimate purpose, any theory about the creation of the universe, all living beings and mankind, is going around in circles, providing illusion to people hungering for truth.

Aloysium, Catholic Answers Forum 11 Comments [12/2/2017 3:32:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134818

Extremism for a good cause is fine. Breaking the law is dangerous but not necessarily wrong. If the only "harm" done is to profits/property it's not real harm. I was going to say that as long as no-one is getting hurt or doing things like setting fires it's fine.

But I would absolutely punch someone on the street if it was the only way to get them to stop torturing a stray dog/cat. How does that scale up? I have no idea, honestly. But if no-one is being hurt it's definitely okay.

I think the people who risk their liberty and sometimes their lives like this are very brave. I'm not brave enough to do anything like that but I'm glad there are people out there who will do it.

rinabean, r/vegan 7 Comments [12/3/2017 3:28:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134819

(=Regarding Pope Francis on climate change=)

This hypocritical godless pharisee! He is a perverter of Catholic Faith and Morals! He promoted perverse LGBTQ!


Defeat Modernism, Facebook 8 Comments [12/3/2017 3:29:12 PM]
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Quote# 134725

A US company has introduced a “snowflake test” to weed out overly sensitive, liberal candidates who are too easily offended.
The test includes questions such as “What does America mean to you?” and “When was the last time you cried and why?”. Many questions are designed to assess a candidate’s stance on America, police, and guns.
Someone who’s not proud to be an American is immediately out of the running, as are people who don’t support the Second Amendment right to bear arms, said Kyle Reyes, who created the test.
“A snowflake is somebody who is going to whine and complain and come to the table with nothing but an entitled attitude and an inability to back their perspective.” Mr Reyes told Fox News.
“We use the test to weed out the sort of people who were inundating us with resumés and didn’t even know what we did.”
Mr Reyes said the tactic had been successful - 60 per cent of applicants to his marketing company drop out when they hear about it.
In a YouTube video about his company, Mr Reyes fires guns and speaks to an injured war veteran before turning to the camera to talk directly to “whiny, entitled” millennials.
He warns them: “You’re young, you’re ignorant, you’re brainwashed by liberal professors who didn’t tell you that in the real world, the only “safe space” is in your parents’ basement.”
The company boss said his test has been popular because, “people are sick and tired of having to be so politically correct”. Other firms have contacted him looking to implement similar guards against hiring snowflake candidates, but most are too scared, he added.
Asked about potential discrimination lawsuits, the CEO said: “There’s no discrimination here, this is nothing more than a glorified personality test.”

Kyle Reyes, The Independent 20 Comments [12/1/2017 8:05:31 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 134726

I haven’t been feeling too “American” lately. Let me explain why. I was born in 1951, only six short years after America completed the task of making half of Europe and much of the world safe for Communism. Since that time, some 64 years, America has continued to clear the path for that alien ideology by becoming the biggest and most influential promoter of Political Correctness, or what ought to be called Cultural Marxism. This is not my ancestors’ country.

The American Empire, which destroyed my South over the course of a century (the 1860s to the 1960s), has moved on to destroying bigger things–the rest of the world. Now, I’m very much aware that many of you will say, “But America has always been a force for good in the world, defeating tyranny and spreading democracy everywhere!” But reality tells a different story.

America stands for the projection of raw power for its own benefit. It does not propagate the Christian gospel nor does it seek to preserve traditional nations and cultures, especially those of the white Western world that used to be known proudly as Christendom. No, America is a destroyer of true nations and traditions, all in the name of “progress.” American is, in reality, a huge experiment in Enlightenment liberalism gone completely haywire.

As a traditional Christian Southerner, I want no part of “America.” I’m not talking about a particular piece of land in the western hemisphere; rather, I am talking about an idea, a proposition, a regime, a way of life. I am a Southerner, an old-fashioned Christian. The status of “American” is my antithesis.

Now before you tell me to “Love it or leave it” and pack up and move somewhere else, let me explain. The South, Alabama in particular, is my home. It is also a captive colony of this American monstrosity. Yes, many of our citizens have, wittingly or unwittingly, embraced Americanism for either survival or profit. I have not, and I intend to convince my fellow Southerners to join my side. I do not intend to leave Alabama or the South. Nor do I intend to leave them in the clutches of America. I intend to fight, and if necessary kill and die, for their survival, well-being, and independence.

I intend to use this website and other means at The League’s disposal to point out why the South cannot and must not remain under America’s control.

Michael Hill, League of the South 22 Comments [12/1/2017 8:05:37 AM]
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Quote# 130586

[Note: This is referring to the actions of the Bundy Militia terrorist group]

We request that President Trump pardon every American citizen that was involved in the activities that took place in Bunkerville, Nevada and the activities that took place at the Malheur Refuge in Oregon. Innocent Americans are being held in prison and sentenced to ridiculous jail terms for standing up for what was right and defending the constitutional rights of others and that any and all people currently being held be released so they can return to their families and back to their normal and everyday lives.

S K , We the People: White House Petitions 14 Comments [8/15/2017 10:59:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 21527

An apple is either rotten, or its ripe. There is no inbetween. This same backwards logic is often applied to other various secular ideologies:

Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.
Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.

Im just pointing out the fallacies here, this logic doesn't work. There is no middle ground, there is no inbetween.

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 46 Comments [3/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 134754

I will never forget one year ago, Nov 8, 2016, my former boss, and friend Donald J Trump became our 45th President!!! A complete outsider- successful business man and WINNER at everything he does. We took our country back from the corrupt politicians who were keeping our people suppressed, while making millions for their own personal gain. All talk and no action. We finally have a president who is FOR America and FOR the People.

Carrie Prejean, Instagram 25 Comments [12/2/2017 8:27:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 21625

First, CoN[chronicles of narnia] is not a parable, and according to it's author, was never intended to be a parable and never intended to be Christian. Second, mythology is planly pagan. There is never an acceptable time to mix pagan worship with the things of God. Finally, since CoN contains paganism, and was never intended by it's author to be Christian, it is pagan.

Bro. Randy, T4C 48 Comments [3/4/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Missa

Quote# 134821

(=Pope Francis says "America has a distored view of the world"=)

It's Francis, the pedophile, godless, Freemason who has a distorted and perverted view of everything!

Defeat Modernism, Facebook 9 Comments [12/3/2017 4:02:12 PM]
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Quote# 134775

I don't look for signs, but if the plain evidence is considered in context it quite seems the world's stage is being set for the final act. Given NASA's late joining the world's enthusiasm about discovering inteligent extraterrestrial life it seems the end time's great dilution may involve a phony ET after all. The perilous tottering of western economies looms large on the horizon promising a big collapse with real panic. War has always been about controling economic production. The next one will be too. Today we hear the dogs of war howling in the distance. World wars change the world. This world is due for such a change.

In 1Tim.4:1-3 the Apostle Paul warned of apotasy and outright evil in the professing Church. We now see evil plainly manifested in once fundamental churches. Ecclesiastical evil is everywhere. Thsee thousands of denominations are an affront to the unity of the Spirit called for by the Apostle in Eph.4:1-3. All one can do is separate from ecclesiastical evil and gather unto our Lord outside the camp (Heb.13:13) apart from the human ruin of the Church.

I truly believe Divine Judgment is already against these United States. Several points support this conclusion. The narcisistic puerile caprice evidenced by this sitting President is only the latest indicator. I think a lot of people who hoped for better will find the worst is yet to come. Expect nothing good. As I read the prophetic scriptures, I find no end time world Superpower other than the Beast's. Personal liberty and freedom are not the Beast's program. The US Constitution must fail and be abandoned. We see forces at work inside this country whose objective is exactly that. Some say there is a powerful Deep State with that very agenda. It may happen suddenly. The threat is serious.

I once thought Islam would be a major power in the Beast's empire. But current events indicate that Islam as a governing force is imploding. I can't help but think something far more sinister than an Islamic Caliphate is coming. Also the Roman Church seems nearly unable to govern itself. How could it govern the world? They too are imploding having less unity than any time before. Unlike my teachers, I don't look to the impotent Vatican institution to be the seat of the Beast's power. The Vatican's power base is gone. European governments no longer need it. I suspect something far more more evil than Islam or the Vatican is just around the corner.

Yes, I can see it - even taste it. Already this nation and world are no longer the ones in which I grew up. I'll be 70 in two years. A lot has happened in the last two. No telling what may come to earth in the next two. But surely our Lord must call His faithful to Himself. That day seems at hand.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

G Moorish, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [12/2/2017 1:58:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134800

Homosexuality is the shutting off of a human biological purpose and the death of a human genetic line. As such, it is "wrong" in "scientific" terms if nothing else. It is also the thwarting of a human social purpose, peace and harmony between the human sexes which tend to find themselves opposed while loving connections between them very much work to soften that opposition and unite the sexes in human purpose. The very ancient and nearly-universal religious objection no doubt has these in mind but may make the matter personal as well, one of the heart of creature toward Creator, a heart that should be disciplined by gratitude in all areas of human life.

I could go on, but these things are really not very material, as (which I pointed out before) the situation in Germany is not one of condemning or not condemning homosexuality -- but of repurposing marriage for some reason. And, no, you haven't even attempted to answer why that should be done, what "good" it is. When an entire population and its social and legal framework is to be revised, perhaps there should be a compelling -- a very compelling -- reason. By changing the subject you're obviously hoping to move the onus.

Porter ODoran, OrthodoxChristianity 13 Comments [12/3/2017 10:02:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134799

Marlon Strickland: It sounds to me like you support Facism. Facism is pretty much every man for himself. Are you liberals equipped and prepared for that. I don't believe y'all would last long

HiSeizure: Definition of fascism 1 often capitalized: a political philosophy, movement or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation and forcible suppression of opposition

Marlon Strickland: Like I said your intelligence is not what you think it is. I know what Fascism is. And it's not conservatives. It's the little Antifa punks. If you continue to piss off the conservatives there will be no liberals or Antifa punks left

Marlon Strickland, Twitter 10 Comments [12/3/2017 10:01:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 21592

Did you know that the only reason why virtually every scientist in the world accepts evolution? It's because they are all in on one big conspiracy to undermine creationism.

Mihilz, CARM 87 Comments [3/4/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 134694

For nearly the entirety of its history, the Soviet Union prosecuted homosexuality as a felony. Silence in the West.

The Russian Federation now restricts the propagation and promotion of homosexuality among children, and treats it as a misdemeanor, and they are the worst thing since Hitler enslaved negroes to build the pyramids without straw. Horse puckey.

More puke thought from the degenerate Transnationale. May God reward them as they deserve.

Psalm 144, Free Republic 8 Comments [12/1/2017 8:04:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134760

This tax reform bill is a major victory.

It ends the individual mandate.

It hurts taxpayers/industries in blue states like California while helping people in red states.

Most importantly, it will siphon money from leftist universities through a capital gains tax on profits earned from endowments.

Matt Forney, Gab 38 Comments [12/2/2017 10:59:29 AM]
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Quote# 134817

I think actions that do not cause physical harm to others, and do not incite a great deal of fear or terror, are ethical acts of resistance against a system of animal exploitation. Convincing others to go vegan might make the future a better place, but helping animals who are currently alive means standing directly in the way of those who wish to harm them.

Even making legal changes in favour of animal protection is a slow process and too often do some "welfare" laws encourage and protect further harm and slaughter of animals, so long as it's done what they deem the "right" and proper way to do it.

As long as people continue to harm animals, we will need to do more than simply sit idly by and say "well, I don't do that, nor do I support it".

Soycrates, r/vegan 4 Comments [12/3/2017 3:28:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 7038

No one has ever apologized to me for calling my beliefs a lie or the Holy Word of God a myth and a lie, but what the heck I want to be reasonable and peaceable. However, I'm going to make an exception this time. I believe you should call a spade a spade. I am not attacking Sven or you personally in any way and I hope you know this but I believe there are certain aspects of the theory that are very elaborate lies. Lies that even great minds like yours and christians like the man you mentioned get caught up in. Lies that have some empirical evidence to back them up. Lies that in many cases make so much sense its incredible, but if it isn't totally true then the very fabric and weave of the whole thing is a lie. A lie thats designed to lead mens minds away from the very creator of the universe. The most effective deception is ones that contains 90% or more of pure truth and just enough falsehood to be able to dismiss them off hand as inconsiquential (ms)

Jim Larmore, Internet Infidels 2 Comments [4/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 134782

Dao Nguyen I believe in only one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Protestentss defy Jesus and do not partake of the Eucharist. Christ said Do This In Memory of Me. How dare so called Anglican Protestant so called Churches defile MyLord and OurBlessed VirginMary. Our Lady dies not even exist in some of these spoof Churches. May God Have Mercy on their Souls.

Precious DeVere, Youtube 6 Comments [12/2/2017 3:32:50 PM]
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Quote# 134798

(This fundie is talking about vampires.)

As in Bram Stoker's mythological and historical patchwork creature, or the romanticized, Hollywood Buffy/Twilight/etc. variety? No.

As in the lifeforce-draining, demonic spirit variety predominate in Slavic and other folklore? Yes. Reports of humans becoming such a creature postmortem, of which there is ample historical evidence, could also be the result of some kind of demonic possession.

Saxon, OrthodoxChristianity 8 Comments [12/3/2017 10:01:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134562

For a change of pace perhaps the readers of this might like some facts. My name is Tristie Johnson and I am Lauren Stratford's - niece. First you need to know that when Rose Willson came of age - she changed here name from Rose Grabowski to Rose Grey. This was - because she was ashamed of her Polish heritage. When she got married her name changed again to Rose Willson. When Lauren - ran away from home she went to live with her father in California. - I do not understand why Cornerstone magazine has not asked to interview me since I too was horribly abused by my grandmother and - both my parents. I have the restraning order I was granted by the judge against Rose Willson and Willow Teeter after they went to - a summer camp where my son was at and tried to kidnap him. - I have the letter from the Summer Camp apolgizing for allowing them to enter the camp, they said my mother verbally - abused the camp directer until she gave in. - Although I did not meet my aunt until after the restraining order was granted we had a lot of things in common, since I was forced to spend a lot of time with my abusive grandmother, who was Lauren's adopted mother and experienced some of the same horrors. When my parents found out about the book they returned to the United States, (they had been in Israel, primarly helping the Palestinians.) They began an urgent campain to discredit Lauren. Cornerstone magazine only interviewed a few members of my family but the family did their best to generate as many lies as possible about my aunt. Why? - My grandmother was very rich, so she had plenty of money to spend in order to cover up the truth. Usually if you ask a person if they horribly abused a child, especially arranging sexual abuse they are bound to deny it. Especially since so many things that happened were against the law. - During the second world war the United States had our own - Holocaust. We not only put the Japanese into the camps, but Americans, Italians, and Germans as well. Most likely Lauren - was born when her parents were in the camps. They were fashioned - after the concentration camps in Germany, some were even set in - places that looked like Germany. I remember as a child long after the war, being strapped to a chair so I could not move and being forced to view the horrible things that happened in a Nazi German camp and was drugged so I would hallucinate while being poked with needles and other sharp things so it felt like I was in that camp. If you have ever been to Disney Land you can understand how detailed special effects can be. - Shortly after my parents came home my aunt was pushed down a large flight of cement stairs and was almost killed. Crime Victems - compensation paid for her counseling after the accident. When we - met she was quite poor but throughout the rest of her life we were close. I attended her memorial service and helped people clean out her apartment afterwards. I miss my aunt. Satans's - Underground is a true story. The name change to Lauren Stratford and the omission of my mother in the book were done out of consideration not to embarrass my mother. It's ridiculous after - all this time to be making up stories against my aunt

Trish , wikipedia 7 Comments [11/26/2017 2:12:57 PM]
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Quote# 7568

I agree with Sky Watcher. I don't believe Islam has any place in our society. This nation was founded on Chrisitianity. I think one of the biggest mistakes our country ever made was allowing immigrants to infiltrate their false religions into our society. It has polluted and diluted our faith.

SpokenFor, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [7/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 125005

In 1945, George Orwell penned “Animal Farm.” One of his characters was Squealer the pig, who arbitrarily redefined words so that they would mean what he wanted. As Orwell explained about Squealer, “he could turn black into white” as part of his attempt to get the other animals to accept his message. It appears that secular progressives are the modern Squealer.

According to them, Donald Trump has now shown us who he really is: a theocrat. Never mind that leading up to the election, we were all fed a steady diet of how irreligious he was. That doesn’t matter anymore. Now he’s a theocrat!

Ironically, they don’t even call the pope a theocrat, and especially not their Shariah supremacist friends seeking to install a global caliphate. The term “theocrat!” is so repulsive that it is reserved solely for Donald Trump and those who support him.

They are so repulsed by traditional religion that they exploded in derision after first lady Melania Trump recited the Lord’s Prayer at a rally in Florida. And then when a public meeting in Louisiana was opened with prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance, the invocation was repeatedly interrupted with vocal outbursts and heckling. All of this was nauseating to them, but then – horror of horrors! – Trump promised to restore constitutional protections for the rights of religious conscience and to level the political playing field to allow people of faith to have the same constitutional free-speech rights secular folks have. That announcement was so terrifying it caused a Washington Post columnist to warn the nation that “Much-dreaded ‘Shariah law,’ or something resembling it, may well be coming to the United States.” Wow.

Let’s see if I get this right: If you want to restore the constitutional free-speech rights of all citizens, including pastors (rights unconstitutionally removed by Sen. Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1954), and if you want to protect the constitutional rights of religious conscience (which, historically speaking, is America’s first-protected, most-important and longest-cherished politically protected right), then you are establishing a “theocracy”?

To quote a famous line from Inigo Montoya in the popular movie “Princess Bride:” “You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”

I understand that it might be difficult for secular progressives to know the meaning of a word as simple as “theocracy.” Most of them probably went first to public school and then attended an “elite” academic college afterward, and study after study affirms that most of those who attend such institutions no longer receive even a rudimentary knowledge of basic historical facts (and they certainly don’t get much logic or common sense).

So just for clarity, here’s the simple definition of “theocracy”:

“A system of government in which priests rule in the name of God, or a god.” (Oxford Dictionary)

“A form of government [with] the God’s or deity’s laws being interpreted by the ecclesiastical authorities.” “A system of government by priests claiming a divine commission.” (dictionary.com)

“Government ruled by … religious authority.” (American Heritage Dictionary)

Do they really believe that Trump is a priest, or an ecclesiastical authority? How silly! And a theocracy also uses coercion and force to enforce its beliefs and dogmas. Furthermore, it excludes input from the people – no elections. So by definition, a constitutional republic with open elections, such as America has, cannot be a theocracy (but let’s not confuse them with something so simple).

However, there is one other important fact secular progressives ignore: Just as religion can be the basis of a theocracy, according to the U.S. Supreme Court, so, too, can non-religion. Back in 1965, the court held (and reiterated many times since) that all that is required to be a “religion” is “whether a given belief that is sincere and meaningful occupies a place in the life of its possessor parallel to that filled by the orthodox belief in God.” The court has therefore repeatedly ruled that progressives, humanists, Satanists, atheists, evolutionists and other such secularist groups are just as religious as Bible-based groups, and so each of these secularist groups now receives the same religious tax-deductible standing as traditional religious groups.

So, if what Trump believes can represent a theocracy, so, too, can what secular progressives believe. In fact, secular progressives are more likely to be truly theocratic, for they regularly exercise coercion to force dissenters to adopt their beliefs. If you doubt this, just ask the bakers, florists, photographers, clerks, chaplains and others who have tried to avoid participating in the progressives’ religious rites to their great goddess of the Sexual Revolution, whether abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, or other manifestations of the LGBT agenda. (Significantly, Romans 2:21-23 in the Bible points out that critics are often guilty of the very crimes and shortcomings they accuse others of. That certainly appears to be so in this case.)

So how does the charge of “theocracy!” relate to what Trump and his administration is doing? It doesn’t – unless you are Squealer the pig.

David Barton, WND 14 Comments [2/28/2017 8:57:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom