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Quote# 130726

You opened up the convoluted diversion when you [not me[ said: "COMPLETELY unlike a same-sex adult consensual relationship which harms no one"!

My responses were then employed to pulverize that lie because same sex consensual relationships harm everyone especially when others are forced to accept the normalcy of such abnormal, unnatural and unhealthy relationships.

As an example, here is just one of the malevolent goals: "Present homosexuality, promiscuity and degeneracy as normal, natural and healthy." Homosexuality automatically includes promiscuity and degeneracy in one stench ridden package like a 3 point play in basketball...one shot three points.

Just a few questions: 1) if homosexuality was normal; natural; and healthy, why pray tell would it ever need to be presented as if it were normal, natural and healthy; wouldn't such presentations be superfluous? 2) if homosexuality was normal, natural and healthy, why pray tell is the cited goal above one of the 45 goals within the Communist Takeover of America given that Communism seeks to destroy America from within on its way to one world Godless; soulless; family destroying; life hating; sodomy saluting; wealth redistributing world rule?

Knowledge Transfer, Christian News Network 7 Comments [8/19/2017 3:46:44 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 130751

I was just today trying to explain to my 90 year old Aunt on what is happening with Professional Sports today in regard to it veering left in so many things.
She used to be a big Cowboys fan and I informed her today we won't be watching much pro football this season, if any.

This morning I read that the St. Louis Cardinals intend to have a trans-gender person throwing out the first pitch next week on “Pride Night” at Busch Stadium and now I read of “Pride” whatever for the NFL.

Lets face it professional sports must want to alienate their fan base to appease a small group of people.

When I was growing up I lived for the NFL and AFL football on Sunday's. My father and I loved it and when Monday Night Football came in we loved that too.

That being said, Dad died last December and my football enthusiasm kind of died with him. Add to that the games are way too long, too many DAMN commercials, too many replays, too many penalties challenged,too many games on, too much Politics being injected into the game, and Leftist Politics at that.

So, as many of you, I have had my fill of all of it. There is only so much the NFL, MLB, etc. can try to force down your throat and I think that moment has arrived.

I am tired of the disrespect to our country, our Flag, and our way of life by overpaid morons, who if they could not play football, would be lucky to be Ditch Diggers.

My personal feeling is that ratings and viewership for the product of the NFL will down again this year, hopefully markedly so. They won't be able to blame it on the election like last year.

If it becomes a trend then guess what the values of all those franchises start going down and the next TV contracts will go for less money. Peak NFL has happened.

Captain Peter Blood, Free Republic 12 Comments [8/19/2017 3:53:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130720

As a teen, it is something that can be very difficult to control.

That said, learning self-control is very important, not just in the sexual sense, but also in eating and drinking (in addition to smoking - which is also something that is allowed, but in "temperate" quantities).

Learning sexual control is prudent too - I feel our society is "over-sexed." Avoiding these situations could help reduce the instance of STI's/STD's and unplanned pregnancies. After-all, we are designed to procreate within the bounds of marriage.

The Church teaches what she does on this topic since masturbation is using one's genitalia for their own wicked means.
It can contribute to the whole "trade" of illicit imagery that is so rampant in our society today. Even secular scientists are beginning to research "Your Brain on Porn" and note that the effect is VERY similar to illicit drug use. The need for more outrageous fantasies and imagery more often also matches illicit drug use, and eventually abuse. The other issue, which I touched on, is it is using the genitalia for pleasure. Sex is made to be this way - and is made in this way so as to encourage us to procreate. Masturbation takes the procreation out of the equation, and turns what should be "a good thing" (the genetic code contained within the semen) into filth that needs to be "cleaned up" and "washed away."

Now, despite all this, lots of teens and adults do battle with this habit daily. One of the best things I heard was to focus on the means of attaining your goal, NOT the goal itself.
If you focus on "not masturbating" constantly, then thats already the first thought, the "obsession" in the cycle of addiction. The Devil WANTS us to despair over the fact this is a difficult-to-break habit.

Instead, if we take this one step at a time, and simply try to make our lives more holy through the Sacraments, Prayer and faith in God - then these baby-steps are easier for us than simply daunting ourselves with "I Will not Masturbate."

And if you fall - try to take it as a learning experience. What went wrong that resulted in this?
Once you understand, put the event behind you and try to improve in that area. Go to confession, and most importantly, get Spiritual Direction and a Regular confessor. They can suggest further means of battling this habit, they can assess your culpability, appropriate penances and so on. There are some tactics that can be applied to some cases - but this can only be done in specific cases and is not appropriate for some people (as it can subvert Church teaching).

As a closing point, Fasting & Abstinence, when done correctly, can do great things in kicking this habit. As does a daily recitation of the Rosary and/or the Divine Mercy chaplet.
Also remembering that "idle hands are the devils workshop" is important. Don't leave yourself alone and bored. Its VERY dangerous.

CuriousMike, Catholic Answers Forum 9 Comments [8/18/2017 8:17:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130705

*Tell that to the American hero that dealt with that liberal btch with his car in Charlottesville*

Well I can't argue that he did the universe a favour by reducing the number of Americans by one. Any American death is a good thing.

Matt Westwood, Not Always Right 18 Comments [8/18/2017 8:14:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 130719

It's Divine Law.

Masturbation is an unchaste behavior. Masturbation is the "gateway sin" to other sexual sins.

If we learn chastity, etc., then boys will not do this. The only reason why boys do it is because they hear others talk about. So they get curious and try.... But like drugs, masturbation is addictive. Also, as boys grow, masturbation leads to an objectification of women. Masturbation also (unlike popular myth) typically does not make a man a better lover, but rather a more selfish lover.

Finally, masturbation separates the love of another person from the congeal act, meaning it makes it more difficult to "make love" when married.

As someone who used to be addicted to this sin (and still sometimes suffers from withdrawal) masturbation is very dangerous as you grow. It also leads to porn addiction, etc. which is usually very bad for a marriage.

My suggestion: whenever you feel the urge to masturbate, start praying multiple "Hail Marys" until the urge goes away.

I pray this helps.

God bless and Happy Easter!

phil19034, Catholic Answers Forum 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:17:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130715

As each day goes by, and I see the hatred and vitriol increase...as well as watching the utter delusions of people........ I realize that society in general, has become pretty much the same as God recognized in the days of Noah, leading up to the destruction of the world by flood. God saw them and all of their evil, and said in His heart that He was sorry He created them. Imagine............

Well. I have a feeling that history has repeated itself, and once again, God is probably very sorry about the way His creation has turned out. The good news is, He will once again step into history, and make all things right again. I feel that it won't be too much longer before that happens, and he sets up His perfect kingdom here. I think satan knows this, too, and is working more than overtime to ensnare as many as possible to drag down to hell with himself.

I feel sorry for Trump. No matter what he says or what he does, they are going to condemn him...........he can't win. I don't understand the man or his twitters, but I pray that God will use him as he used Nebecednezar for His good purposes during these terrible times.

kathymendel, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130697




I kept the molestation I went through a secret from my mom. Like I felt horrible for years until I realized that I was just a really gullible and trusting kid when I was six. I didn’t know the full extent of what happened but I was physically threatened and I knew it was bad. I didn’t tell her until I was sixteen, because I didn’t want to go to therapy because I don’t believe in that nonsense and I didn’t want to be treated differently. I was already being bullied and it would have been one more thing.
But it took everything that I had to tell my mom I had been molested.
Also when I was molested he threatened to bash my head in and he threatened to kill me.
Ice cream is also not the same thing as a violent pedo threatening to bash your head in. Ice cream never made me feel like trash. Ice cream never threatened to kill me with a rock. I have barfed eating ice cream, but I would rather barf from I’ve cream than be threatened by an evil hellthing in a human costume(a pedophile).



Poor girl. I hope this bastard rot in prison. But please, do not compare rape with willing sex. That is why I showing a child willingly want an ice cream, not it pushed in her mouth forcefully.

Myluminaryking, tumblr 13 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:55 PM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 130541



Ferchrissakes, if he'd given us his word that he was a stamp collector, no one would give a shit. But, "I really want to have sex with children," is not something that rational people will just shine on. And most normal people wouldn't count that as an asset on a baby-sitter's application form either



I didn't say he'd be my first choice of babysitter, but I don't see paedophilia as necessarily an automatic disqualifier anymore than being a bestialist means you can't look after my dog. What I said was if he was a friend of mine (like all my other sitters) and I knew he was an out paedophile, I would still let him look after my kid. Because, call me crazy, but I trust my friends not to hurt my kid (or they wouldn't be my friend), and anyway, I trust people not to act on their every impulse at any opportunity.

Y'all are treating him like he'd be a junkie in a room full of drugs. I'd treat him like a person with a particular attraction in a situation where that's not particularly relevant to the job at hand. IOW, I'd expect a modicum of self control from him, just like I'd trust a gay friend who thought I was hot (of which I have had a couple) not to take advantage of me when I'm drunk, or a straight friend not to try and peek at my wife changing her clothes. You know - civilized behaviour?

MrDibble, The Straight Dope 11 Comments [8/14/2017 12:22:09 PM]
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Quote# 130680

[On a piece of Trivia about Walt Disney having the cigarette doctored out of his hands on every image he was taken of in Disneyland]

Liberals fucking with history Again!!

Talbot Hanley, Google+ 14 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:59 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130702

[From "Take Your Place"]

Through the years a war has been waged. Racially and culturally. Whites, a once proud people, have been handed defeat after defeat it seems since the 1960’s. The country our grandparents lived in and enjoyed is vastly different than the one we have today. A person conscious of this, yet not on our side, would ask himself why this is. Why is it that things seem to be getting worse? Also, why is it that such seemingly small numbers of people are the only ones willing to do anything about it?

As history has shown us, Whites have been a people that flourished because of their ambition to pursue the interests of their race. They accomplished great things for the sake of themselves and their people. There was a sense of racial awareness that made this all subconscious to them, but it served them well. The reason for their existence was to improve their lot for the sake of future generations.

The push forward. The more ground they could traverse for their family, the further ahead they could place their race, the better. Well, what happened?

Truth is, there are many things that have happened.

Through integration in the 60’s many Whites have been brought down to the level of Blacks. Many adopt their music as if it is their own. Many dress and carry themselves like their black counterparts.

Through these things come the attitude of the Black. The mentality of the eternal underachiever. The White has learned how to exist without ambition, like his Black lesser than.

Since the late 50’s and early 60’s the momentum has changed hands in this struggle. Where in the past they always were focused on progress, now we as a people are fighting to preserve history as well.

Since we approach this conflict in a defensive manner, forward progress is inhibited by our desire to fight to preserve – instead of attack and take.

[...]

The brown hordes and their communist overlords have us on the defensive. We plan rallies around the idea we are preserving history, instead of planning marches through once white areas that are now inhabited by the brown plague. This is how we show solidarity for our future.

We are the most hated element of society. People flock to strength, not weakness. While we are not a weak people and Charlottesville is going to be wonderful for morale and our cause, it is at its core a defense of our people. We are conquerors. We always have been.

In our position we should agitate to make our position attainable. Go places we aren’t welcome. Large White marches through areas now populated by Muslims, public pro-White demonstrations and a very vocal position on all social matters pertaining to race. This is our fucking country. We have been charged with the task of taking back what is rightfully ours for the sake of our children and future generations.

Defending won’t always be enough. Especially when literally everyone is coming for part of what was created for you.

How do some in these circles say it? Retake Everything.

Larry Ridgeway, Identity Dixie 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:12:49 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130698

You are not alone. Our local schools have gone from 10% Asian to 40% Asian in the last 5 years, with almost an even split between Indian and Chinese immigrant kids. The Chinese moms are often regarded as abrasive and rude. They do not seem to care at all about social norms or even basic manners. The attitude rubs off on their children. I even noticed my own children now chewing with their mouth open and talking with their mouth full because that's how all the kids in their school do it. Makes me very upset. These new arrivals have ruined the beautiful, polite Pacific Northwest that I grew up in.

The larger the immigrant group, the longer it takes to assimilate them. In such large numbers and such a sudden increase, they are now assimilating us. Obama is doing his best with the new visa rules to ensure the US turns into a Chinese colony even faster. In one generation they will turn the US into another China, and let's not forget why they left China in the first place, because there were too many Chinese!



Joanne B, Nytimes 8 Comments [8/17/2017 9:46:02 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 130710

Throughout American history, since the time of the colonies, there has always been this situation. A Leftist oligarchical team feeds the angry mobs, utlizing the heckler's vote to undermine good and decent people on the Right.

The Right, being the rule-followers that they are, have an inadequate response every time, and they are undermined with "unfair" tactics. The Right is comprised of rule followers and believers of a traditional way of some sort. As such, they have invested their money, time, and families in the status quo, and they have too much to lose to commit to the fight against the Left in a full capacity.

The Left has utlized the anti-Logos spirit against the Right. This is what happened when Whig revolutionaries placed an oligarchy in power with America's First Civil War/The American Revolution. Tory loyalists mostly wanted to keep their heads down, keep to their work, not be bothered with radical movements, and stay out of the line of fire.

This same Leftist war against the Logos also occurred with the War of Northern Aggression/American Civil War. Radical agitators in the North were inciting mobs and violence, holding up abolitionism as its cause/pet project, and with the compliance of the oligarchy in power they were allowed to attack, demean, villainize, and destroy the dignity of Southerners who rightfully thought it their constitutional right to split from the Union of states--which was supposed to be a EU-style conglomeration of different countries. But thanks to Abraham Lincoln, his war morphed the nation into a horrific superstate.

Now, Leftist Zionism is our religion and national policy. If you are an annoying minority who is against this, then you are anathema, and open to attack.

We've reached the next iteration of the Left's perpetual war against the Right. The ever-present and never-ending war against the Logos. Against God. Against sensibility. The Right will lose, just as it lost during the Civil War and the American Revolution. We shall be run over, honestly. Objectively speaking, there's no other way to see it. There's simply not enough people who are inspired enough to step out of the comfort zones they've worked hard to build up and invest in.

LaramieHirsch, Cathinfo 9 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130713

I watch anime and it includes: drawings of men, women, and animals. It is filled with music. Women are always drawn with skimpy cloths and anime will always have at least one episode either at a beach or hot spa so they can draw the women in skimpy bating suits. Do this and putting anime characters into sexual situations is actually named and done purposely... see fan service.

Anime is prompting western dress, western schooling, western ideas, western culture. In recent anime they more than likely either adding a homosexual character in it, and/or homosexual jokes or Homosexual fan service.

So can you tell me why anime would not be haraam?

Mich, Ummah 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:19 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130714

I agree, Krauthammer even has succumbed to the brain rot, I was a little goggle-eyed when I saw that headline this morning. He's always been fairly steady and logical in my experience. Said it before, but all this "highly illogical" (insert :spock here) behavior and response just screams spiritual attack to me. Like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour... and he must be reaching for the tums about now...

Maybe The Donald was like a match to a bottle rocket, maybe that's why the Lord let him defeat Hillary. Go on and light this thing off, to expose the darkness in the swamp. They don't like it, so they are pulling down the shades with lies and fake news and pure deception and rebellion, which is as witchcraft. If Hillary had won, it would have been business as usual in the swampy lands. Instead, Trump is shaking everything up, re-mix. Showing who's on what side of the line.

I dunno, random thoughts there, but it is stunning to see happening.

I'm gonna be praying more for this administration.

pixelpusher, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130709

Crime is an unwanted feature in any society, and any system governing a society has policies to minimise crime and secure the rights of its citizens. In the modern world, criminal acts take on many appearances whether they be violence, abuse, fraud, theft and all of the above in a cyber environment.

Also in the modern world, the sense of insecurity felt by many, seems to be increasing as criminal acts come in so many forms as Assistant Commissioner, Martin Hewitt said in 2017, “Along with rises in traditional crimes, we are facing new challenges across London”. As with all proposed governing models, Islam offers a comprehensive solution towards achieving a society with very little crime.

Even criminal acts have a reasoning behind them. For theft, it is the wealth one can gain. For sexual offences, it is the desire that can be satisfied or with assault, it is the dominance one can feel.

Though these desires exist in human beings, not everyone chooses to satisfy them in a criminal way or by inflicting misery on others. There is no doubt that the actions of the criminal are ultimately his or her actions. The sheer volume of crime in Western society also shows that for many, the system simply does not work for them to satisfy their needs in a law abiding way.

Islam has a very world orientated view towards individuals, Muslim and non-Muslim, and their ability to break the commandments of Allah SWT or commit crime even in a society based upon Islamic laws. It does not expect people to behave like angels and recognises human capacity to do both good and bad.

At the same time, an Islamic system takes positive steps to reducing the risk of someone committing a crime.

Crime prevention starts at an aqeeda (creedal) level. Islam teaches life is a test and that good deeds and obedience to Allah’s commands gains Allah’s pleasure whilst sinning and transgressing Allah’s prohibitions earns His wrath resulting in either Jannah or Jahannam in the hereafter.

Hence, accountability is not to a judge, or the police and authorities, but to Allah SWT, the all Knowing, the all Punishing and the Just. If an individual does believe he can break the law and evade justice, it is unlikely for him to believe he will evade the inevitable accountability of Judgement Day. Thus, deterring people from committing unlawful acts, or entering lives of crime.

Making obedience to the rule of law a natural state of affairs is made easier when the state and its organs are at one with the basic philosophy of the Islamic system. There will be no glorification of violence or respect given to criminals or gangs.

Nor will there be a culture glorifying crime through movies and music as these are not the values which underpins an Islamic society. Rather, the Islamic Khilafah system would do the opposite. It would promote and pursue wholesome ideals such as described in the following ahadith,

“None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [Bukhari and Muslim]

“One who goes to sleep full whilst his neighbour is hungry is not one of us.” [Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra]

or

“A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfil his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection.” [Bukhari]

Therefore, selfish desires are not stoked, rather they are tamed.

The public opinion regarding criminal acts and the norms of behaviour will be synonymous with the principles of Islam. As the society is Islamic, their value judgments on actions will run parallel to the value judgments Islam provides. Thus, anyone breaking these norms would be shunned in society thereby acting as a powerful deterrent.

A person committing a crime, will therefore, not better his quality or standard of living, but be going against the grain of society, and challenging the status quo. As social beings, humans would rather seek acceptance and interaction with their neighbours, colleagues and families, rather than being excluded from them, again removing the mindset or potential for a person to be tempted to commit criminal acts.

A criminal will pursue a crime, only if he feels he will not have to face the consequences of his actions or the potential gains are greater than the punishment that would be served if he is caught. Only having accountability to fellow humans is flawed, as humans can be deceived and criminals can escape the wrath and the full extent of the law.

For those who do indulge in criminal acts or violate the law of the land, the Islamic punishments are severe. However, the severity of the punishment, is not to satisfy a bloodlust nor for lack of wisdom or desire to seek mercy. Rather, the punishment system is a preventative measure to reduce the temptation to commit crime. Knowing that the consequence of being found guilty of a crime will result in the loss of life or limb is an extremely potent idea which one cannot rid from his mind as the consequence stays with the criminal for life.

Furthermore, punishments take place with public knowledge and in a public setting. This, combined with the public opinion described before, would have a second effect. A person’s life would be ruined if he is found guilty, as not only has he paid for the crime with loss of limb, money or pain, he will also be known to have strayed from socially acceptable actions, resulting in the public having a negative view to him.

Nowadays, criminals who have committed a crime and escaped punishment, or are let off easily are incentivised to repeat offend; the price wasn’t too high to pay, so why not? An example of this is the swimmer convicted of rape in the UK who served a meagre three months for his crime which destroyed a woman’s life. This sentence is in no way fair, and is an example to other sexual offenders that the consequences of their crime is light. The reverse of this is also true.

Criminals who have committed a crime and paid a heavy price for it, would be an example to the people of what happens when the sanctity of the law is broken. A potential thief seeing a man without a hand is a fitting example of being “put off” from committing a crime.

Upholding the law and being seen to uphold the law is a key part of an Islamic judicial system. There is no one in society who is above the law. The law, procedure and punishment are applicable to everyone within the society. This is evident in the hadith,

“By Allah, if Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad stole, I would cut off her hand.” [Bukhari]

The judges are not selected based on their heritage, network or status. Rather they are selected due to their ability, knowledge and piety. Since this will be evident through their conduct, confidence in the system will be strong amongst the law abiding public. This in turn will minimise any rebellious or vigilante mindset, as the due process is fair, works and ensures the protection and safety of the citizens of the state.

It is important to note that the Islamic Justice system is not to be implemented in isolation from the rest of Islam’s governance. For example, if the Islamic economic system is not being implemented, or the rules governing men and women are absent then crimes of varying natures will occur.

The track record of the Khilafah Rashidah and Islamic state is a testimony to Islam’s ability to minimise criminal activity. In fact, throughout the history of the Khilafah lasting 1300 years, there existed seldom instances of theft deemed severe enough to result in a hand being cut. Truly, the only way to satisfy the problems the world faces, is by using the system the Creator of man revealed, and only through the Khilafah system, can justice be served and harmony be established.

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130716

When a person says one thing; "there were good, permit carrying, peaceful protesters in the crowd also that were there to protest the statues coming down" and the listener hears something totally different "part of the neo-nazi, white supremacy group was good," which throws everyone into a ditzy, it can only be explained as demonic.

We are living in the days of strong delusion and it's surreal! These people actually believe that Trump was calling part of the white supremacist group "good." He wasn't saying that at all. It's past the point of them just perpetrating lies against him - they actually believe it. Maybe that's what they actually heard?? Demons!!

You always have to leave room for direct intervention from God, which is what Trump may be, but barring that, this country will not be coming back from this divide which has been perpetuated by Satan, Obama, Soros, and their ilk - the Kill, Steal, and destroy crowd. We are living in the days of Noah. I just hope we are raptured before we see that level of violence that fills the whole Earth!

You ever wonder if God led Ken Ham to build the lifesize Ark Encounter at this time to say "hey, here's your mega sign. The days of Noah have arrived!"

mel018, Rapture Ready 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130722

...."You say that as if that is somehow different from what I said. Here is what I said: "For instance, if Entropy of the Universe is always increasing, then how did the Entropy get to be as low as it is today?" It seems you believe that a massive explosion resulted in a highly ordered universe. Of course that's nonsense, since we know that explosions do not create order, but massive disorder. There are lots of measurements that indicate the Big Bang theory is bunk, but of course those are not taught to students in public schools."

....
....

"As discussed, above and below, we know the characteristics of the God who created the Universe. Science has no credible story about the origin of the Universe which is not directly contradicted by measurements. But many cling to belief in the Big Bang in a desperate attempt to not acknowledge the existence of God."

RegGuheert, The Well-Trained Mind 11 Comments [8/18/2017 9:21:10 AM]
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Quote# 130717

Please Lord we ask for that last soul to come to you. Can't take the heartache watching our evil world crumble destructing ourselves. Maranatha. Come Lord Jesus! And we pray, for yet another tragedy of likely majority unsaved people's deaths, for their loved ones, and that each life lost results in at least one turning to You to be saved. ????

BlessdMomUv5, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130692

(Medcel)
The blackpill is working, normberts are starting to get it (comments from the r/Tinder post)



(not_here_4_points)
Tinder itself is the biggest blackpill experiment there ever was. The current top showerthought of the past year with 105,000 upvotes - "Tinder is the opposite of porn site advertisements. There actually are a ton of hot singles in my area, but none of them are interested in me."

(Thereitiz)
That bit about 2's having tinder date calendars... fuck thats enough reddit for now this isnt healthy

(Relegated_Interest)
Can confirm. I knew a 200 lbs girl who had that many dates. Over 200 matches.

(Lost_soul99)
your daily dose of suicide fuel

(erikthesmasher)
Tinder is like a harem of women for chads. They can fuck girls now easier than ever.

(usingthistoshitpost)
And we have women saying they are FA and lonely.

(foreignincel2)
There was a comment who said how guys how to compete with each other and have the best personality etc and there will always be another guy more funnier than him so its not fair , lol what a horseshit guys dont compete between each other , girls select the most handsome , no matter what you say words will not make you appear more handsome than you are

(TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe)
Respectfully, men do compete. That's what AMOG is. Especially in a group of classic alphas, say your worst jock frat bro fears, half their game is goofing on each other, strutting around and preening while Stacies pretend not to watch but in actuality are watching very closely.
One Stacy's Chad may not be another's, so more girls win. However, if multiple Stacies want the same Chad, women do the same thing.
I am, of course, speaking of a club, party or other social environment, for the most part.
Junior Chads and Stacies do this, too. It starts very young, on the playground or in the halls. At a time when many boys haven't really noticed girls yet, the High T future Chads have and they're already playing the game. Awkward & goofy boys will raz and dare each other to approach girls, and the one(s) with the biggest balls will win succeed in getting junior Stacy's attention.
At that point, attention alone is good enough.
This moves on to hanging at the mall, shops to skatepark, where boys both compete and embolden each other. Alphas rise to the top.
At these early stages, late blooming future incels may not notice cuz they've still got their heads in the comic books and video games. Then, by the time they notice, they're already crucial months or years behind, social circles have formed and they find themselves on the perimeters.
Now I'm sad.

(TallfagAnnihilator)
The creators of tinder should be publicly executed in the most painful fashion possible. I can't think of single thing that has made female hypergamy worse.

(shitposter1000000)
It simply exposed the femoid hypergamy which has always been present. The inventors probably had good intentions for their own camp like the inventors of the nuclear bomb, but they underestimated how big of a paradigm shift it would cause.

(FPSdouglass)
You're right. Tinder is like eBay. We always wanted to buy or sell shit, but now it's just easier. People still act similar to how they did before.

(damnsong)
You can always curse ancient Egyptians for popularizing the creation of makeup.

(Litchii_Thief)
Nah, I forgive them because Pyramids are badass looking.

(LukeVenable)
You can thank aliens for that

(usingthistoshitpost)
Ayy lmao

various incels, r/Incels 9 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:13 PM]
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Quote# 127289

[[Child molestation survivor: A child's brain is not developed enough to make that decision. Idfc if I said yes.]]

guilt trips and assumptions regarding my actual position rarely work on me. i oppose paedophilia not on moral grounds but practical grounds instead. sex is merely extensive genital contact, particularly in the pelvic regions. your opinion can be subject to further ridicule because you imply that sex must be 'practical' and procreative; i appear to have found someone who believes in abrahamic natural moral law.

ReclusiveChicken, Deviantart 12 Comments [5/18/2017 11:08:35 PM]
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Quote# 13557

[After explaining why a poster didn't capitalize the word "god"]

And you can only wish there is no God. You better start capitalizing it now since you will meet Him one day and He'll probably ask you why you didn't give Him even this smallest respect.

Biff, Free Conservatives 49 Comments [8/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Oolon Coluphid

Quote# 13546

The cell is the smallest unit of living things. There are two different, non-interchangable types of cells, plant and animal. One cannot become the other. For evolution to be true, the first living cells had to be plant life because an animal cell, having nothing to eat, would die immediately. Since that cell could not become an animal cell, a SEPARATE abiogenesis would have to occur. That is now TWO impossibilities, or impossible squared.

Nutrider99, Free Conservatives 34 Comments [8/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gerard

Quote# 130712

Western notions of democracy have come to dominate all discourse on governance, government structure, justice and accountability. Despite this dominance, electoral numbers at elections, trust in politicians and the ruling classes is at an all-time low in the West. Some thinkers in the West, class their liberal democracies as universal and consider all opposing systems as dictatorships. With the Muslims world demanding more and more of Islam to be present in their politics the Khilafah’s ruling system is a viable alternative for many. A lot of this is due to the failure of democracy to cater for the needs of the Muslim world and its flaws can be seen from a number of areas.

Whilst all would agree that their leaders should be elected, the reality of democracy is that regular elections favour those with money and adversely impact tough long-term decision making. Politics becomes about serving the elite not the public. The problem with frequent elections is that the more elections there are the more there is a requirement for money. Money and politics is one of the major cancers in democratic politics.

In essence the more elections you have the more likely you are to poison your system with money and short term thinking. This is what we see in the West today, countries dominated by powerful interests, riddled by political corruption and with soaring deficits and other long-term problems left completely un-tackled.

An alternative to both democracy on the one hand and dictatorship or absolute monarchy on the other hand is an election of a ruler with no term expiry as exists within the Islamic political system. This allows people on the one hand to freely choose their leader but on the other allows that leader the time to take tough long-term decisions for the benefit of the people.

Legislative sovereignty is at the very heart of Western civilisation, the ability to create one’s own laws, change them, adapt them and suspend them is held in high esteem as one of the bedrocks of liberal democracies. This is why we find after the events of 9/11 Western Europe has suspended some key principles and rights. We have seen the suspension of the presumption of innocence, the right to a fair trial and the right to be aware of the evidence that is being used to imprison you. These key rights, enshrined in Western maxims and used to extract other laws have been altered at will, even though they are supposed to be the bedrock of Western political tradition. With secularism at the heart of Western legislation, laws can be changed and even suspended at a whim.

The protection of individual freedoms is the bedrock of Western civilisation. However, the dilemma secular legislators face is what is beneficial to one person is not necessarily beneficial to another. People’s interests overlap and as a result there exists a constant renegotiation of space, entitlement and privilege. More often than not, the underlying criterion for an action is self-gratification and fulfilment – ‘What’s in it for me?’

A society where an individualistic outlook is common can only decline into a virtual free-for-all, as everyone, including the government, would attempt to take full advantage of life. Freedom therefore leads to people seeking their own benefit and more often than not, those with political and/or financial clout have the upper hand. This produces a host of problems, not least the conflict of people’s freedoms.

One of the fundamental pillars of democracy is that legislation is arrived at through majority voting. In the absence of any divine text, the need to derive legislation must be sourced from elsewhere.

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Secularism, the complete separation between God and governance has become established as the Aqeedah of Capitalism, legislative sovereignty of man over god is central to democracy however one defines it. Islam is on the diametrically opposite side of democracy. Islam makes the Islamic texts sovereign – the supreme reference, mankind plays no role in legislating, only implementing.

Islamic governance does not proceed upon the same route as Western legislation, where safeguarding individual freedoms is considered the basis of legislation. Islamic governance does not make freedom the subject of discussion; it does not recognise or reject freedom. Hence, Islamic governance does not look at humans from the angle of them undertaking or not undertaking actions on the basis of freedom.

Whilst Islamic governance has many details and has been written about throughout Islamic history, the following are its key aspects.

The current situation prevalent in the Muslim world, where ruling families decide the laws that society must abide by whilst they remain above the very laws they have created, is just the other side of the democratic coin.

In Islam Allah (swt) is sovereign as explained in the Qur’an:

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“The rule is for none but Allah” (Al-Anam:57)

This means that all laws need to be derived from the Islamic sources which are the Qur’an, Sunnah, Ijma Sahabah and Qiyas. Whilst all laws, maxims and principles are contained within these texts their application is where mankind must use its own capacities to ensure the right rule is applied for the reality it came for.

To ensure this happens Islam has recommended a constitution for the Islamic lands, where the role of the ruler and positions of power are clearly defined and mandated a constitution where the relationship between the ruled and ruler are clearly delineated. All this ensures that society is aware of the laws it will be judged by, which cannot be changed at whim, this will ensure a multiple tier society does not develop, where different laws apply to different segments of society. It also ensures the elites cannot influence the laws.

Islam has enshrined both institutional and decisional independence for the judiciary which far exceeds what is seen in Western democracies. Islam institutionalised an independent high court called the Court of Unjust Acts (Mahkamat Mazalim). It is presided over by the most eminent and qualified judges (Qadi Muzalim) and granted extensive powers by the Shari’ah. It has the power to remove any official of state regardless of their role or rank, including, most importantly, the Khaleefah if he persists in pursuing a path that lies outside of the terms of his Bay’ah (contract of ruling).

Ordinary citizens who have a complaint against the state can register it with the Court. What is unique about the Court of Unjust Acts, compared to other judicial courts, is that the Government Investigations Judge (Qadi Muzalim) has investigatory powers and does not require a plaintiff to register a complaint before launching an investigation. This court will therefore constantly monitor the actions of all officials of the state and the legislation adopted to ensure it conforms to the Shari’ah and no oppression (mazlama) is committed against the people. The executive counterbalance to the power of this Court is by the Khaleefah in principle having the power to appoint and remove the Chief Justice and any judges below him.

The laws and Islamic independent judiciary work to enforce are derived from the Islamic sources, this restricts what can be enforced as law. As Islam’s fundamental source – the Qur’an is revelatory, what is right and wrong is defined and thus the ruler nor the judiciary can deviate from this. With the introduction of a constitution, which allows more detailed rules from the Islamic sources, society will clearly know where it stands with regards to those acts which entail punishments and fines if violated.

The US constitution is considered a model template, which empowers the President with many powers but then restricts them through various mechanisms as power corrupts. Accountability in Islam is guaranteed through the institutions of government, in the obligation to establish political parties and through an individual obligation on all the citizens to enjoin the good and forbid the evil. There are also a host of various mechanisms rooted in Islam which act as checks and balances and restrict and regulate the ruler.

The Khaleefah is given wide mandatory powers in Islam, this is different to what is the norm in democracies where power is shared with a cabinet or parliament. Whilst the West institutionalised this in an attempt to curtail the possibilities of a dictatorship in reality it has given rise to mob rule where the collective act in concert like any individual dictator.

Islam has mandated that authority belongs to the Ummah. The Khaleefah is not a king or dictator who imposes his authority on the people through coercion or force. The Khaleefah’s authority to rule must be given willingly by the Muslims through the Islamic ruling contract known as Bay’ah. Without this Bay’ah the Khaleefah cannot rule. After this his authority is restricted to the hukm shari i.e. he cannot change what the Islamic texts have defined as right and wrong.
Islam has institutionalised the Bay’ah contract as the method to appoint a ruler.

This was outlined in many ahadith, amongst them: Muslim narrated on the authority of Abu Hazim who said: “I accompanied Abu Hurayra five years and I heard him talk about the Prophet (saw) saying: ‘Bani Israel used to be governed by Prophets, every time a Prophet died, another came after him, and there is no Prophet after me. There will be Khulafa’a and they will number many.’ They said: ‘What would you order us to do?’ He (saw) said: ‘Fulfil the Bay’ah to them one after the other, and give them their due right, surely Allah will account them for that which He entrusted them with.” (Sahih Muslim). The Bay’ah is between two parties – the Khaleefah and the Muslims. It is the people who elect the ruler, through popular will.

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The Bay’ah is a contract and as such it is allowed to add extra conditions to this contract that the Khaleefah must abide by, as long as these extra conditions do not violate the fundamentals of the contract. It would be allowed to restrict the Khaleefah to certain constitutional processes such as the empowerment of the Majlis al-Ummah (People’s Council) and the judiciary as counterbalances to the executive power of the Khaleefah.

Without the restriction on the term of office, the Khaleefah can focus on long term strategic planning for the state instead of short-term planning from one election to the next as we find in democratic systems. It also prevents corporate interests from hijacking the government agenda through campaign contributions that any Presidential candidate or party in the West must secure to achieve power.

The ruler possesses many executive powers such as appointing governors and mayors, developing the state’s foreign policy and accepting foreign ambassadors. He is however restricted to these and cannot go beyond this remit. The ruler’s role is restricted to the public sphere and so Islam would forbid him from interfering in the private lives of his citizens. So whilst the Khaleefah holds all executive powers within the Khilafah his powers are restricted by the Shari’ah.

The powers of the Khaleefah are further restricted in Islam by the establishment of the Majlis al-Ummah. This is an elected council whose members can be Muslim, non-Muslim, men or women. These members represent the interests of their constituencies within the state. The Majlis has no powers of legislation like in a democratic system but it does have many powers that act as a counterbalance to the executive powers of the Khaleefah. These include expressing dissatisfaction with the assistants, governors, and mayors and in this matter the view of the Majlis is binding and the Khaleefah must discharge them at once. It also includes selecting the list of candidates standing for the position of the Khaleefah, no candidate excluded from this list may stand and the decision of the Majlis is binding. The Majlis also decides how much the ruler is paid and the allowances he may get.

In modern times the most appropriate style of conducting the Bay’ah is through a general election, where all mature Muslims, male and female have a right to vote for the Khaleefah of their choice. The Muslim representatives of the Majlis al-Ummah will shortlist the candidates for the Khaleefah and the people then vote for one of the candidates of their choice.

Islam has ordered the establishment of political parties. Political parties in the Khilafah are established primarily to account the Khaleefah and his government. Their task is to safeguard the thoughts of Islam in society and to ensure the government does not deviate from the implementation and propagation of Islam. The right of the Khilafah’s citizens to establish political parties is established from the Holy Qur’an. No permission is required from the government to establish political parties. Although members of the government will in many cases be members of political parties. The Khilafah does not have a party system of ruling as found in Western democracies.

In addition to the institutionalised mechanisms of accountability discussed so far, accounting the Khilafah is a right of all citizens of the state whether Muslim or non-Muslim. Although their representatives in the Majlis al-Ummah will undertake this task on their behalf they still have a right to perform this task themselves. Political apathy is a growing problem in the West. General elections are seeing fewer people voting especially amongst the young. Growing individualism among society is leading people to ignore the problems facing their communities and wider society and be concerned only with themselves. Islam not only obliged political parties with the task of enjoining ma’aruf and forbidding munkar but also individuals.

A central argument of liberals is that after restricting religion to the private lives of individuals, the West has seen unparalleled progress. Secularism has been central to the period of enlightenment and the postmodern world we currently live in. However there is a consistent pattern across all democracies of corruption. The US may be the preeminent democracy in the world but it is also one of the most corrupt.

US politics is riddled with special interests, a revolving door between politics and big business, political favours and backhanders. Though on the surface elections occur every two years, the reality is that incumbents rarely lose. In 2008, 94% of incumbents won in the House of Representatives and 83% in the Senate. This isn’t by accident, due to the significant money advantage enjoyed by incumbents and the continued redistricting.

Democracies should have secularised money and politics and not religion and politics. In Islam the ruler is not an employee who gets paid a wage, since he is not hired by the Ummah. The Khaleefah is given a pledge of allegiance (Bay’ah) by the Ummah to implement the Shari’ah and convey the Islamic Da’wah to the world. Although the Khaleefah is not paid a wage an allowance is assigned to him from the Bait al-Mal to meet his needs.

This allowance is a compensation for him since he is kept busy with the obligation of the Khilafah and cannot work and pursue his own business interests. This allowance is determined by the Majlis al-Ummah who will decide through shura (consultation) how much the allowance should be. They are the elected representatives of the Ummah and giving them the ultimate decision prevents any abuse of the public funds by the Khaleefah.

The ruler, governors, delegated assistants and judges – all the positions of ruling – are not paid a wage but an allowance as compensation as they are unable to take on employment. In this way Islam ensures money is kept far away from ruling.

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Individuals have the right to account any organ or employee of the state, regardless of rank or seniority, this includes the head of state. Complaints can be submitted to the Madhalim Office who will initiate a process of validating and following due process in establishing facts. This office has the subsequent power to stipulate punishments. Individuals, Muslims and non Muslims, are allowed the right to peaceful congregation and protest. They are also allowed to seek out support to make representations to the state on their behalf.

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 4 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 13595

Seriously, how intelligent can one be that likes to get it up the ass?
How much common sense does it take to partake in dangerous behavior that causes AIDS? How stupid do you queers think \\"Us Normal people are\\"? We should agree with your sick patetic lifestyle? I think not! You call evil good and good evil. Homos are twisted and for the most part mentally ill and delusional. The saddest part of it all is when a faggot tells a straight person they are ignorant and a bigot because they dont like it up the ass and can\\'t understand how wonderful it is. Why the F**K should we you low life scum queers!!!!!

abduldadude, Speakout.com 35 Comments [8/5/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 130711

The idea of a Caliphate is constantly mocked by the West and their secular Muslim agents that rule over the Muslim World. The people who call for it’s implementation are labelled extreme and radical in the Western World and are imprisoned, tortured and even killed in the Muslim World. This is besides the fact that an Islamic Caliphate was implemented for over a 1000 years and is a part of history that cannot be ignored. In this article, we take a look at some of the contributions of the Caliphate to the World.

The first Islamic State was established by the Prophet Muhammed ? himself, in Madina Munawara in the 7th century. Based on monotheism it united people of different colours and creeds and eradicated status inequality. It eventually came to be embraced by many nations and peoples. At its height it stretched from Morocco and Spain in the west, to the Philippines in the east, from the Steppes of Khurasan to the north and to the jungles of modern day Congo to the south. The Muslim world leapt from a period of ignorance and division to a time of unparalleled unity and strength. All of this can be seen from many periods of Islamic history.

During the Abbasid rule of the Khilafah, they began a project of creating a capital city that would be revered around the world. The Abbasid Caliph, Al-Mansur assembled engineers, surveyors and art constructionists from around the world to come together and draw up plans for the city. Over 100,000 construction workers came to survey the plans and were distributed salaries to start the building of the grand city.

Baghdad was the first circular city in the world. Within fifty years the population outgrew the city walls as people thronged to the capital. Baghdad became a vast emporium of trade linking Asia and the Mediterranean. By the reign of Mansur’s grandson, Harun Ar-Rashid (786-806 CE), Baghdad was second in size only to Constantinople. European towns, cities and settlements built walls to prevent raids from outlaws and armies but were typically vulnerable at four points; the corners. If enough pressure was applied at any of these points the wall would collapse and troops could flood through the breach. The Muslims solved this problem by building circular cities.

After the defences of the city were complete, attention turned to how the Abbasids would feed the rest of the Ummah. The development of agriculture under the Abbasids was a phenomenon; the scarcity of water had converted the barren Arab lands into a vast desert, which had never yielded any substantial agricultural produce. The scattered population always imported supply of food grains to supplement the dates and the little corn grown in their own lands. Agriculture in Arabia had been very primitive and was confined to those tracts where water was available in the form of springs. Madina, with its springs and wells was the only green spot in the vast desert. The Abbasids dealt with this by first controlling the flows of the Tigris and the Euphrates rivers. The irrigation system in the land was greatly improved by digging a number of new canals, the largest flowed between the Tigris and Euphrates. This canal was called Nahr Isa (Isa canal) and was open to ships for transportation between Syria and Iraq. This led to navigation routes opening to India and the Persian Gulf. The Abbasids reconstructed the existing canals, lakes, and reservoirs, which were first built under Hajjaj Bin Yusuf in 702 CE. After this the swamps around Baghdad were drained, freeing the city of malaria.

The Abbasids in the 8th century initiated probably the greatest translation project translating the work of the Ancient Greeks into Arabic to preserve them from being lost forever. The careful and painstaking archival work took time, effort and coordination. An institute named Bayt Al-Hikmah was set up and run by the Abbasid Khilafah in Baghdad for this purpose.

At the behest of the caliph an observatory was built and numerous educational institutes which made literacy widespread were created. Other rulers such as Al-Mansur ordered plentiful resources to achieve the task. Translation became a state industry and the Muslim scholars succeeded in what is still regarded today as a truly incredible feat.

Observatories were set up in Baghdad and became an unrivalled centre for the study of humanities and for sciences, including mathematics, astronomy, medicine, chemistry, zoology and geography. The scholars, scientists and specialists drew upon the translated works of previous civilisations such as the Persian and Greek works that included those of Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Socrates. Such works were accumulated and Baghdad became home to a great collection of world knowledge.

Europe had been embroiled in almost constant wars of horrific brutality. Invading hordes and fleeing refugees swamped the continent. In contrast large sections of the Muslim world especially those parts not on the frontiers were serene and tranquil for hundreds of years. In this atmosphere various cities flourished and the story was the same throughout the rest of the Muslim world.

When the Muslims entered Spain in the early 8th century they found people who lived in stone hovels, dirty places with a central hole in the primitive roof to let out the smoke from the small fire they lived around. The inhabitants of these pits would be consumed by soot, tears streaming down their faces. Eye and respiratory diseases were common.

The Spanish would refuse to wash, believing in a form of spirituality that meant they had to avoid an earthly or materialistic life. The animal furs they wore were handed down from generation to generation. The stench was often overpowering particularly as they lived close together in their airless cells. The Muslims, were used to courtyards, canals and gardens. The great city of Damascus in Syria had over a hundred thousand gardens alone. Guided by Islam and a vision of the betterment of humanity the Muslims sought to change this. By the 10th century the Spanish city of Cordoba had two hundred thousand homes, over half a million places of worship, nine hundred public baths and libraries containing hundreds of thousands of volumes. Moreover the streets were paved with stone, cleaned, policed and lit at night. Conduits brought water to the people’s homes and to the city’s many squares and gardens. Students from all over Europe descended upon the city to learn from the acknowledged master scholars of the age.

Throughout almost all of Islamic history the Khilafah and the Muslims were a minority ruling over majority non-Muslims. The Qur’an and the examples of the Prophet highlighted how non-Muslims should be treated. The Treaty of Umar ibn Al-Khattab, in which he guaranteed the Christians of Jerusalem their right to practice their faith in total religious safety became the standard model in Islamic history.

The Ottoman conquest of Constantinople in 1453 CE is considered a seminal event in history, but it was also the first time the Ottomans came to rule over a large number of non-Muslims. Constantinople had historically been the centre of the Orthodox Christian world, and had a large Christian population. As the Ottoman Khilafah expanded into Europe, more and more non-Muslims came under Ottoman authority. In the 1530s, over 80% of the population in Ottoman Europe was not Muslim. In order to deal with these new Ottoman subjects, Ottoman Sultan Mehmed instituted the Islamic rules of ruling over a diverse population, later institutionalised into the Millet System.

Under this system, each religious group was organised into a millet. Millet comes from the Arabic word for “nation”, indicating that the Ottomans considered themselves the protectors of multiple nations. Each religious group was considered its own millet, with multiple millets existing in the Ottoman Khilafah. For example, all Orthodox Christians in the Ottoman Khilafah were considered as constituting a millet, while all Jews constituted another millet.

Each millet was allowed to elect its own religious figure to lead them. In the case of the Orthodox Church (the biggest Church in the Ottoman Khilafah), the Orthodox Patriarch (the Archbishop of Constantinople) was the elected leader of the millet. The leaders of the millets were allowed to enforce their religious practices related to worship.

In addition to worship, millets were given the right to use their own language, develop their own institutions (churches, schools, etc), and in some cases collect taxes. The Ottoman Sultan generally exercised control over the millets through their leaders. The millet leaders ultimately reported to the Sultan, and if there was a problem with a millet, the Sultan would consult that millet leader.

The Ottoman Khilafah reigned from 1300 to 1924 CE. Throughout most of its history, the Millet System provided a system of religious harmony and belonging throughout the Khilafah. As the Khilafah expanded, more millets were organised. Separate millets existed for Armenian, Catholic, and Orthodox Christians, with each sect being divided further into more specific regional churches.

These decrees by the Ottoman sultans Mehmed II and Bayezid II granted the Greek community ownership of the church. The decrees and church remain in Istanbul today.

As the Khilafah weakened European intervention took place and they began to use each millet against each other – something that did not happen for hundreds of years. When the liberal Tanzimat were passed in the 1800s, the millet system was abolished, in favour of a European-style secularist government. The Ottomans were forced to guarantee vague “rights” to religious minorities, which limited their freedoms. Instead of being allowed to rule themselves according to their own rules, all religious groups were forced to follow the same set of secular laws. This actually ended up causing more religious tension in the Khilafah and was one of the causes of the genocide of the Armenians during World War One in the Ottoman Khilafah’s dying days.

The Millet System was a unique and creative solution to running a multi-ethnic and multi-religious, transnational state. The rights and freedoms it gave to religious minorities were far ahead of their time. While Europe struggled with religious persecution into the 1900s, the Ottomans created a harmonious and stable religious pluralistic system that guaranteed religious freedom for hundreds of years.

Whilst no doubt, the Khilafah also had many problems as any human state will have, it’s contribution to the World was unparalleled. The history of the Khilafah demonstrates that there isn’t a contradiction between Islam and Science. In fact, it was under the Caliphate through which scientists such as Ibn-Haitham were to revolutionise the approach to build conclusions upon the observable universe through testing and observation. The motivation for Muslims to excel in science and technology was underpinned by the Qur’an which encourages mankind to exploit the earth’s bounties for the benefit of all peoples.

“He put at your disposal that which is in the heavens and that which is in the earth, all from Him.”[Al-Jathiyah:13]

It also dispels the myth that the Caliphate has a barbaric view towards Non-Muslims. Whilst there maybe incidents in history of Non-Muslims not being treated fairly, this doesn’t change the fact that Islam inherently mandates Non-Muslim citizens to be treated fairly.

“He who hurts a dhimmi hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah.” -Tabarani

These are but only some of the contributions of the Caliphate to the World. It’s clear that the backwardness and camel age attributed to the Khilafah is part of an ideological propaganda campaign to smear the concept of an Islamic polity. Today, Muslims all over the World have the desire to live under Shari’ah law despite the propaganda against the Khilafah. The only obstacle to this, are the imperial powers and their agents that govern the Muslim World by Secular rule. However, the arrival of a Khilafah based upon the method of the Prophet PBUH is inevitable as it has been promised by Allah SWT. The acceleration of the aggression against Islam and those who call for it’s implementation via a Caliphate by the World superpowers is only but a testimony to it’s nearness. Once the Khilafah arrives it will once again lead the World in science and technology without compromising on addressing and solving the problems of mankind.

There will be Prophethood for as long as Allah wills it to be, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be Khilafah on the Prophetic method and it will be for as long as Allah wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be biting Kingship for as long as Allah Wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be oppressive kingship for as long as Allah wills, then he will remove it when He wills, and then there will be Khilafah upon the Prophetic method” and then he remained silent. (Ahmed)

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 2 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:46 AM]
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