Quote# 141313

Alternate thought to Tides:

Does our Flat Earth Breathe with a fixed frequency?

Nikola Tesla 2.0, Twitter 7 Comments [11/24/2018 1:33:24 PM]
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Quote# 141315

Martin You keep ignoring what Jesus said so you can pretend sexual perversion is OK. Tell me, why, when He had the chance to enable all those homosexuals to have loving, monogamous marriages, did Jesus say nothing about homosexuals and marriage? Not once does either Jesus or the Bible say anything good about homosexuality.

Peter: He didn't say lots of things. This is because he didn't give a list of dos and donts. Rather he taught such a 'list of laws' approach to which you seem wedded is wrong.
Instead he taught moral principles. It took us 1500 years to realise how to apply them to slavery and 1900 on equality for women. So it's no surprise it's taken us this long to apply them to LGBT people. That doesn't make it Jesus fault for not mentioning it.

Martin: Funny that, He had opportunity to say that homosexuals should be allowed to marry and not be stoned, but He didn't say a thing. He didn't say that the Old Testament penalty for homosexuality was lifted, yet He did say that if someone slapped us we were not to retaliate. Clearly He wasn't worried about the feelings of the homosexual, if He did think they weren't sinners after all.
Slavery and the equality of women are nothing like the so-called LGBT people. They are addressed in the Bible, homosexuality is only condemned. There is not one place where homosexuality is mentioned with any sort of approval in the Bible.

Peter: There is nowhere where slavery is banned and nowhere where lending with interest is approved. Your reading of the bible leads to inverted morality the polar opposite of Jesus's

Martin: Your problem is that you expect the Bible to be a book of rules.

Martin, Premier 3 Comments [11/24/2018 1:40:34 PM]
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Quote# 141316

Christians should not condone homosexuality any more than they should condone adultery. The fact that a particular sin brings you great pleasure doesn't mean it's not a sin. Christianity is about getting rid of your sins, not celebrating them. The secular culture may accept excuses like "This feels good" or "This is who I am," but Christianity has a much higher standard. If you love your sin more than you love God, you are no Christian.

AustinRocks, Premier 7 Comments [11/24/2018 1:41:08 PM]
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Quote# 141325

Hindus all over Hindustan, get up and kick the anti-Hindus from office.
They are enemies of the finest religion of the world. If no one has the
courage to proclaim Hindustan Bharat Raj is Hindu Raj is Manow Raj,
the Sri Hanuman Seva Sena will do that before the election. Hindus take
your rights in your hands. Don’t be the victim of a perfect perverse anti-
Hindu Congress society. The politicians are cowards and cheaters. They
even can’t build the Sri Ram Ji Mandir in Bharat, the land of Hindus.
This is a message of Sri Hanuman Seva Sena.

Samarjit Prasad Ganesh, Hindu Existence 4 Comments [11/24/2018 1:48:07 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 141328

Perfect Love casts out fear: We will never agree on this. Suffice to say, I find nothing attractive in a God who condemns non-hetero people to a living hell whilst on this earth and then to eternal torment when they die. It absolutely does NOT fit with the Jesus who came among us, who is Love Incarnate. I pray that, one day soon, you will convicted by this love and amazing grace, rather than your current obsession with demonising a) Christians with a journey different to your own and b) those born of a non-hetero sexuality. Let's just leave this here. I withdraw from dialogue with you.

Martin: You find nothing attractive in God, full stop. There are no 'non hetero' people, nor for that matter are there any 'hetero' people, just sexual sinners rebelling against their maker.
Love does not overlook sin, indeed, sin is the antitheses of love and homosexuality is sin. A homosexual can never be a Christian.
No one is born with a 'non hetero' sexuality, indeed, sexuality does not exist.

Martin, Premier 7 Comments [11/24/2018 1:53:02 PM]
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Quote# 141331

JD: So, lets get this straight:
A deity created a male proto-human out of clay. Then it took a male to female genetic clone of it so the two could breed. Thus whole human race was born.
As creation myths go I've always found that one to be one of the silliest. Oddly though, this creation myth suggests that the human body is malleable and that gender is not static and is in fact fluid.
Curiously though there's the second creation myth that says god made humanity in its image; male and female. Which suggests that the god of the bible is both genders thus making it intersex and/ or transgender. Both myths support the reality that 1 in every 1200-2000 are born intersex.
Gender and gender orientation was never set in stone.

Martin: What a load of twaddle. Where does the Bible speak of a genetic clone? it says that God made Adam out of the dust and Eve out of adam's rib. No requirement for a clone, the God who made a man out of dust can equally make a woman from a rib. Nor is there any suggestion that gender can be fluid.
There is no 'second creation myth', not that there is a myth. but of course God made Man in His image and God is a spirit. Thus the image of God has nothing to do with sex. If you bothered to do your research you'd have known that.

Martin, Premier 7 Comments [11/24/2018 1:55:12 PM]
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Quote# 141330

Try this:

You have heard that it was said, You shall not commit adultery. But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
(Matthew 5:27-28 [ESV])

The problem comes when you deny that temptation that is allowed to grow in the heart, for such is what is called 'orientation' is, and rule your life. To identify with a sin, as those who describe themselves as homosexual do, is to say that it is their master. Those who describe themselves as LGBT have already given way to sin.

Martin, Premier 6 Comments [11/24/2018 1:54:13 PM]
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Quote# 55646

After reading the Guest Column by Matthew Ramos ["Prop. 8 and young gays' apathy," Nov. 9], I am confused. What legal right are gay people being denied? I only voted against them changing the legal and traditional definition of the word "marriage." If they are being denied any other right, let me know, I may be on their side.

James Salley, OCRegister 33 Comments [1/8/2009 3:23:16 PM]
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Quote# 141306

(=An Anti Gay vs Pro Gay argument desolves into an Eternal Torment vs Annihilation argument of Hell=)

Martin: Curiously the penalty for all sin is the same:
Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.
(Ezekiel 18:4 [ESV])
Death is the penalty for any sin.
You reject the fact that homosexuality is simply sexual sin merely to justify yourself.

Guglielmo Marinaro: Ah well, if all those souls are going to die, then they won’t be living on in hell to suffer everlasting torment, will they? So that’s some consolation.
You assert that homosexuality is simply sexual sin merely to justify yourself. I reject the “fact” that homosexuality is simply sexual sin, because it isn’t a fact but simply nonsense.

Martin: Death for the soul of a sinner means an eternity of torment. Keep pretending while you can, one day you'll have to admit you're wrong.

Guglielmo Marinaro: Death does not mean an eternity of torment – except perhaps once again in your Martinian Newspeak lexicon – and an attempt to read such a concept into that verse from Ezekiel is eisegesis par excellence.
You may keep on repeating your ignorant nonsense till kingdom come, and I will continue to recognize it as ignorant nonsense, nothing more. As you have yourself recently observed, it is tedious to have to repeat the same thing over and over again, but – who knows? – God may use it to enlighten you and get you to repudiate your errors.

Martin: Curious then that Jesus speaks of two options, eternal life and eternal punishment:
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
(Matthew 25:46 [ESV])

Guglielmo Marinaro: Quite apart from uncertainty regarding the meaning of the Greek word “aionios”, which has been translated in English Bibles by the word “eternal” or “everlasting”, but which does not necessarily mean “of endless duration” – in the Greek Septuagint it is applied, for example, to things which have long since come to an end, e.g. the Aaronic priesthood (Numbers 25:13) and the gates of the Temple at Jerusalem (Psalm 24:7, 9) – it is interesting that Jesus contrasts “eternal punishment” with “eternal LIFE”, which seems clearly to imply that those who go to “eternal punishment” will NOT live on for ever.
This is confirmed by Jesus’s admonition, “Do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND body in Gehenna.” (Matthew 10:28)

Martin: So you're saying that eternal life doesn't last for ever? I think you'd be hard pressed to maintain that.
As for Matthew 10, it is notable that the same word is not used for the act of one who is able to kill the body but not the soul and the one who is able to destroy both body and soul.

Guglielmo Marinaro : No, I am not saying that eternal life does not last for ever, nor am I implying that. But if the belief that it does has no stronger basis than the use of a Greek word which is applied in the Septuagint to a priesthood which no longer exists and to the doors of a temple which was razed to the ground centuries ago, it rests on a pretty precarious foundation.
Something which has been destroyed no longer exists. If anything, “destroy” bears an even stronger connotation of annihilation than “kill”. The verse in Matthew 10 which speaks of the destruction of both soul and body can, like so many biblical texts, be pulled around in Procrustean fashion to bring it into apparent conformity with preformed dogma, but as the New Testament scholar Kim Papaioannou observes, “It appears that the attempt to understand the meaning of ?p???sa? in Matthew 10:28 as something other than ‘destruction’ in its most obvious meaning is based more on theological considerations than linguistic evidence.” He adds that this conclusion is supported by a survey of the usage of the different forms of that verb in the Synoptic Gospels, elsewhere in the New Testament and in the Septuagint.

Martin: The same word is used of eternal life as to eternal punishment, so if one is not to experience eternal punishment neither will anyone experience eternal life. It matters not what a man who thinks he has invented a whole new understanding of the Bible says

Guglielmo Marinaro: And the very same adjective (a??????) is used of the Aaronic priesthood, which no longer exists, and of the doors of the Temple at Jerusalem, which was razed to the ground centuries ago.

Martin: And the Septuagint was translated hundreds of years before the New Testament was written. Nor is it inspired, the translators were capable of error.
The punishment and life clearly last for the same length of time.

Guglielmo Marinaro: “And the Septuagint was translated hundreds of years before the New Testament was written.”
So what? It is the same Greek adjective, and the Septuagint was good enough for Paul, since it was the version from which he habitually quoted in his epistles.
“Nor is it inspired, the translators were capable of error.”
As were the original biblical writers, and as were all the translators who have produced every translation of the Bible ever made, from the Vulgate to the NIV.
“The punishment and life clearly last for the same length of time.”
Clearly to you perhaps, but clearly not clearly to everyone else.

Martin: You didn't realise languages change over time?
The original biblical writers were caused by God to write as they did, their writing is without error for it is breathed out by God.
When the same word is used of two things in the same sentence it is clear to everyone that the same meaning is given to the two instances. Everyone except you apparently.

Martin, Premier 9 Comments [11/22/2018 11:44:49 AM]
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Quote# 122275

[Transcript of Adam4d Comic]

30 Years ago
Christian: "The Bible is the Word of God and I believe what it says"
Some Guy: "Me too brother"

15 Years ago
"The Bible is the Word of God and I believe what it says"
Some Guy: "Whatever"

Today
"The Bible is the Word of God and I believe what it says"
Some Guy: "Bigot"

How Long?
"The Bible is the Word of God and I believe what it says"
Cop: "Hate Speech"

ALT TEXT: "And when that time comes, they'll still be saying Christians have a "persecution complex".


Adam Ford, Adam4d.co 32 Comments [10/30/2016 3:21:11 PM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 55841

I don't know a whole lot about the subject, but it's not like I could ever learn enough to change my mind. It [Evolution] contradicts the Word of God, thus I know it's a lie from the pits of hell.

faithandgrace, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [1/7/2009 4:22:01 PM]
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Quote# 55629

Atheists are arrogant and think God needs to explain things. That is like expecting a judge to allow an innocent person to submit evidence in the corrupt American courts. Not going to happen. So what's so funny about the Bible? It's not. When you are sitting in jail you will convert on your knees or will rot in jail. Believe.

poloniawarrior, YouTube 50 Comments [1/7/2009 7:20:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 141300

For the longest time Trump was pro-choice, but then all of a sudden announced that was pro-life when he decided to run on the Republican presidential ticket. At one time Bill Clinton said he was “pro-life” while governor of Arkansas. Then when he ran as a Democrat for U.S. President, he said that he was pro-choice. What a fraud! These politicians have no integrity, no honor and no respectability. We live in a nation of gullible and foolish churchgoers (many are not true Christians). As a whole, the churches are a big problem in America today, because they support satanic Bible revisions, support manmade Illuminati Israel, they are woefully ignorant concerning the New World Order, and they are easily duped to support evil candidates simply because someone claims to be against abortion. What a sad testimony!

I actually heard Pastor Robert Jeffress of the First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas, say publicly that he would vote for an atheist to become U.S. President if he was against abortion. No wonder our nation is in peril! Christians are to give their allegiance to the Lord Jesus Christ, not men. Christians are citizens of Heaven. We are pilgrims passing through here on earth, not settlers. This world is not my home, I'm just-a passing through.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 16 Comments [11/22/2018 11:31:33 AM]
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Quote# 138417


I think gayness occurs more because of toxins in the food and water

Also most gay people are raised by a mother not father And this can be toxic for many men

Liam, Y! answers 13 Comments [6/27/2018 4:22:34 AM]
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Quote# 54173

[queue up the pie charts]

Thinking about so many people willing to spend so much time hating Christians, and it gives us a foretaste of what the world will be like when the Restrainer is gone. Burning down churches (which has already happened in India and other places), torturing, raping and murder. We may think there is evil in the air now, but then all the haters of God will be unleashed.

Reason&Hope [ironic username, huh?], Rapture Ready 33 Comments [12/16/2008 2:49:27 AM]
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Quote# 109772

Hello my fellow ana’s on the blogosphere,

Today I thought I would share with you some of my favorite quotes to keep me strong. Hope it helps!

Giving in to food shows weakness, be strong, and you’ll be better than everyone else
Do not give up what you most want for what you want at the moment
An imperfect body reflects an imperfect soul
Craving is only a feeling
An ordinairy girl, an ordinairy waist, but ordinairdy is just not good enough today
If it ws easy, everybody will be thin
If it tastes good, it’s trying to kill you
Calories CAN NOT make you happy
Sacrifice is giving up something good for something better
The beginning is always today
It doesn’t mather how slow you go, as long as you don’t stop
It’s the mind that makes the body
Everytime you say no to food, you say yes to thin
Eat to live, don’t live to eat
When you resist the pain of hunger, it means your not a slave of your body
Don’t eat! Do you want to stay fat?
Being thin is more important than everything!
You want food? Loook at those thighs!
Bones define who we really are! Let them show!
Do you really want to be that weight for the rest of your life?
Eat less, weigh less
Thin is beautiful, even thinner is perfection
Anorexia is a lifestyle, not a diet
I only feel beautiful when I’m hungry
Skip dinner, end up thinner
Respect yourself, put down the fork
Nothing tastes as good as thin feels
Thin is perfectin, I’ll die trying to achieve it
Your mind should always be on your diet


theproanalifestyleforever, The Pro-Ana Lifestyle Forever 55 Comments [6/18/2015 6:43:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 141298

Anyone else noticed how pussy-whipped Leftist our country has taken since the mid-terms?

It's as if 2016 never existed!

This demographic shift in the electorate towards products of single mothers, feminists, faggots, dykes, gender-benders, man-children and weak men are taking over right before our eyes.

For all those on the "Right" who were complacent, enjoy your future of faggotry!

#Ghost

Ghost, Gab 26 Comments [11/20/2018 12:56:03 PM]
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Quote# 141277

The Oxford comma is a comma used after the second to last item in a list of three or more items.

Why is the Oxford comma necessary?


WITH OXFORD COMMA: "I love my parents, Ronald McDonald, and Swiss cheese."

WITHOUT OXFORD COMMA: "I love my parents, Ronald McDonald and Swiss cheese."

Did Ronald McDonald and Swiss cheese birth a child? Clearly atheistic liberals who believe that women can become men, humans evolved from apes, and Taylor Swift is a good role model clearly believe enough nonsensical hocus pocus to find such a scenario possible.

Steven R., SimplyChristian  32 Comments [11/19/2018 7:54:02 PM]
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Quote# 123127

THIS IS WHAT MOST ATHEISTS DON'T KNOW OR DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

Christian Oracle , youtube 17 Comments [12/19/2016 3:08:39 PM]
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Quote# 112366

Your relationship with God is an extremely personal thing. Your soul’s communication with Him is as intimate and private as a man and wife cuddling each other in bed. In the Bible, God constantly likened worship and prayer to sex. He said His followers were like His wife and He was the possessive Husband who got super ticked when His wife starting doing it with other gods. In the Old Testament, most of God’s chosen people were heavy into idol worship. God took major offense at this. He called it adulterous betrayal and He put out some very crude descriptions of how He viewed souls praying to supernatural beings other than Him.

“At every street corner you built your lofty shrines and made your beauty abominable, spreading your legs to everyone who passed by with increasing promiscuity.” (Eze. 16:25)

To describe a woman as “spreading her legs” is a very crude way of saying she’s having sex with a man. Why is God being so crude here? Because He’s extremely upset about His people praying to other gods. What you do with your soul is extremely important to God. He is very jealous and possessive over you. He says that all of your spiritual “sex”—all of your soul worship and prayers—belong to Him alone. This is why it’s so important that we don’t go praying to Mary, saints, angels, dead people, planets, or anything else. Whenever your soul is reaching out to anyone or anything other than God, God says it’s like you’re having sex with that thing–it’s like you’re committing adultery and cheating on your real Husband.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 13 Comments [8/29/2015 6:23:52 AM]
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Quote# 119604

For example, God strikes Dan and Ben with the same terrible illness. Because God is angry with Dan, His motivation for striking Dan sick is to discipline him. But God is pleased with Ben, and His motivation for striking Ben with the same illness is to bless Ben by teaching Ben truths that will strengthen his relationship with God. Because God’s attitude towards these two men is different, they need to respond to God’s actions differently. Dan needs to repent out of his rebellion and re-submit to God’s Authority. Ben needs to view his illness as a growth opportunity and ask God to help him learn everything that God wants to teach him. See how it works?

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 14 Comments [6/9/2016 2:40:26 AM]
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Quote# 121122

When you sincerely want to please God, He is going to be pleased with you. Maybe you were the guy who kidnapped little Tina, raped her, and chopped her up into little pieces which the police recently discovered. Now Tina’s family hates your guts and they’ve been quoted in the news as declaring your actions to be unforgivable. But what does God say? Does He consult with Tina’s people before talking to you? No, He doesn’t. How God responds to you is going to depend on how your own soul is responding to Him. If you’re being an unrepentant little brat, then God is going to be convicting you to repent and threatening you with dire consequences if you don’t submit to His Authority. But if instead you are horrified by the depths to which you’ve sunk and you desperately want to get right with God somehow someway, then He is going to eagerly embrace you and help you start working on the underlying issues that motivated you to snatch little Tina in the first place.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 25 Comments [8/16/2016 7:57:06 PM]
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Quote# 136022

During the end times, we will see God doing many horrifying miracles with plants which will defy explanation. There is nothing natural about mature, freakishly large cacti ripping buildings apart. There’s nothing natural about hundreds of ugly black vines suddenly busting up through the asphalt and sidewalks of a bustling city street, either, but this is also something which we will see happen. In the case of the black vines, we will see plants displaying a chilling degree of intelligence and anti-human malice. These vines will not only lunge at passing humans with precisely calculated moves, but once they grab hold of their victims, they will swiftly immobilize them by strategically wrapping around all of their limbs. The vines will then invade people’s bodies—ramming their way through every available orifice until people die of severe internal injuries.

Now a city that is caught by surprise won’t just have people in its streets. There will be vehicles as well. In the case of the black vines, while humans are getting pinned down on the sidewalks, those who are driving in vehicles will discover that they’re not safe, either. Vines will wrap around cars, and use any available opening to work their way into the cabs where the humans are. These plants will be so strong that once they wrap around vehicles, people will be unable to open their doors and escape, which means they’ll have no choice but to sit there and get attacked.

...The attack will end as suddenly as it started, and when it does end, the super strong vines will disintegrate into an ash like material which falls apart when touched. This mysterious transformation will allow anyone who isn’t dead to easily break free of their vine chains, but for most people it will already be too late. When autopsies are done on the corpses and it is discovered how the vines penetrated into bodies, naturally people will be very afraid. There won’t be any rational explanation for this plague, just as there won’t be any way to explain the monstrous cacti.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 25 Comments [1/16/2018 3:13:31 PM]
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Submitted By: MadotsukiInTheNexus

Quote# 141297

HOW MUSIC IS USED TO CAST SPELLS!

Music can be used to cast spells. This is how they do it.

A Call For An Uprising, Youtube 12 Comments [11/20/2018 12:55:15 PM]
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Quote# 93466

Why is defending traditional marriage archaic? If society "needs to move on" from archaic defense of traditional marriage, what is the next move and why is that move "right"? If what makes the next move "right" is supported by the "it's what makes people happy" logic, then why is Adolf Hitler seen as a madman if he found happiness in murdering millions of Jews? Why is there a criminal system in our country if raping children is what makes someone happy? Why are there speed limits if driving 100 MPH is fun to me? Why do I have to pay bills if I find happiness in making and keeping my money?

What about homosexuality makes it okay in our society only because it means some couple is happy? Are there no further implications about that? What is the acceptance of homosexuality saying about the rules of survival in biology (that relationships between male and female of a species ensure the future of that species)? What about the moral implications about sexuality in general? Is there no limit to sexuality in our society? What about children? How will we teach them that, no, a man does not always have sexual intercourse with a woman, even though biologically every single person is born wired to be attracted to the opposite sex?

Why is the move to accepting homosexuality considered a benefit to society? What does such moral liberalism imply about how we gauge the ethics of issues in our society?

Why the hell do I even try to ask these questions of a stupid and decaying society?

aelencloud, Newsbusters 41 Comments [3/31/2013 4:31:07 AM]
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