Quote# 50341

Why are unbelievers pro-abortion, but believers are against abortion?


We already know for a scientific fact that life begins at conception, and that human life begins once the woman's egg begins it's cellular division (meiosis) after fertilization.
Being armed with these scientific facts, why do the Atheists and the unbelievers do the non-scientific thing and adopt an arbitrary reference for their definition of life? Why does one (confused) unbeliever point to the first trimester and yell, "There!" and another (confused) unbeliever point to the second trimester and yell, "No, it's there!"
A third yet will withhold pointing the finger until the baby's head has completely emerged from its womb!

Is it that with the unbeliever politics will always trump reason? And if the unbeliever always allows politics to trump reason, what right does he have in saying religion is unreasonable?

Fellow-believers, do you think there's a cure for this deficiency of the human condition?

Holy Roller, Christian Forums 42 Comments [10/25/2008 9:54:26 PM]
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Quote# 50574

Just another blind atheist with flawed logic your link was worthless and made no sense whatsoever I don't care what happens to you and I don't care about your opinion either.

The great thing being a Christian is even if I'm wrong what will happen? I'll just die and turn to dust but if I am right (Which I am) then I go to heaven and you... well you can continue on in arrogance and see what happens.

It really is wonderful and no argument any blind Atheist could bring up could ever stop me from believing the truth the beautiful wonderful absolute truth of God Jesus and the Holy Spirit!

Praise God and may Jesus come soon I will never allow any blind human to open a door to close minded atheist thinking even partially!

God gives us exactly what we want if Atheists want to be separated from God forever in their own world for all eternity then so be it have fun ;)

Also even if there was a "Big Bang" then who lit the fuse? ;) HAHA

[Next post down]

Oh and welcome to my Ignore list TC because I really don't feel like reading any more opinions from satanists who are blind to the truth ¬_¬

pikmintaro, Gamefaqs 42 Comments [10/26/2008 2:35:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Darth_Toxic

Quote# 50675

If Israel is thinking about attacking Iran soon after Nov 4th, then I wish they'd go ahead and do it now. That might actually help McCain get elected.

I don't believe we can know whether Obama is Muslim or Christian by his words, bc he lies so much. If he becomes President, I think the truth will become clear.....honestly, I think it's more likely that he is a Muslim than a Christian, based on what I've observed or read about him.

cwp76, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [10/26/2008 2:20:09 AM]
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Submitted By: cc

Quote# 50587

Ray [Comfort] has a lot of guts! He's wonderful. And there is hours of reading/evidence that shows Evolution is so mathematically impossible. Evo also can't explain how the earth, sun, stars etc. got her in the 1st place. Again, volumes why it's impossible. Just look it up and open your minds.

aquaiz, YouTube 50 Comments [10/26/2008 4:25:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 50588

-Reply to, "The Theory of Evolution was never meant to explain the origin of life."

"The basic purpose of it though is to disprove God. And most who believe in evolution do not believe in God and thus instead believe that life spontaneously generated and that matter came from nothing. "

Fundamentalists, Gamespot Off-Topic Forums 29 Comments [10/26/2008 4:27:58 AM]
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Submitted By: -Jiggles-

Quote# 50558

These Unitarians say that their members are free to believe anything that they want. However, like all liberals in this country, they're really just bigots in disguise. "Believe anything you want, so long as it's what we believe!"

In order to expose their bigotry, we are going to send small groups of our congregation into Unitarian churches on Sunday morning. When they have their moment of silence, we are going to stand up and shout a confession of our Bible-believing Christianity: "My friend Jesus spilled his blood for me, died for me on the cross, and he's coming back in a cloud of power and glory and he'll divide the sheep from the goats and a great lake of fire and burning sulfur awaits all ye false prophets!!!"

Then we will see how tolerant these Unitarians really are, and hopefully convert some as well.

Do you have Unitarians in England? You might want to do something similar over there.

God bless,

fred the bus driver, The Garvanian 56 Comments [10/26/2008 5:19:49 AM]
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Submitted By: yellowcat

Quote# 50553

The orbit of the moon decays a certain amount every day. In other words, every day, the moon gets just a tiny bit closer to the earth. As the moon gets closer to the earth, the high tides get a tiny bit higher. This is a measured fact. Now, Since the creation is only seven to ten thousand years old, this is not a big problem. Average high tides have only changed a few inches.

HOWEVER, if the fairy-tale of 'billions and billions of years ago' were true, the moon would be so close to the earth that it would cause extremely high tides. In fact, tides would be so high that the entire surface of the earth would be flooded by the tides twice a day.

ImaSaved1, Teens 4 Christ 56 Comments [10/26/2008 5:28:06 AM]
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Submitted By: sooze

Quote# 140325

The desire to dominate and humilliate tall and wide males burns withing me with the force of a thousands suns. Seriously. I have grown a special hatred for tall and wide males. I would love to somehow achieve incredible physical strength and make a big male bend on their knees before me. I would love to humble them down. Love to humilliate them in the department they are most confident (physicality).

Oh and I would love to acidface or just put a bullet on Chad, but thats another matter. My hatred for other unfairly genetically gifted males grows every hour i'm alive.

Zyros, incels.me 11 Comments [9/7/2018 2:06:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140331

Hardly a day goes by without a huge amount of negative media coverage surrounding President Trump. Yet many evangelicals are continuing to back the President. The informal spokesperson for those evangelicals who advise the Trump administration, Rev Johnnie Moore explains why

On my regular visits to Europe, I am often asked about the support of American evangelicals for President Donald Trump. I certainly understand the curiosity given Mr Trump's well-documented reputation prior to his presidency, his unfiltered stream-of-consciousness approach to social media, and his unconventional foreign policy - to put it mildly.

Yet, many American evangelicals are so close to the administration that the President and First Lady invited them to the equivalent of a state dinner last week “celebrating evangelical leadership.” At a certain point during the evening an open microphone prompted nearly two dozen of the dinner’s 100 guests to thank the administration.

Here are some of the reasons why evangelicals said they are grateful for the policies of the Trump administration, even when they are sometimes offended by the President's sensibilities:

1. He prioritises religious freedom
The Obama administration held court over the most significant threats to America's sacrosanct first amendment as have been witnessed in modern, American history. The most egregious example was when the administration attempted to require religious Catholics, including nuns, to provide contraception against their sincerely held religious beliefs.

When the Trump administration began their term, there were more than 50 active lawsuits against the Department of Justice for similar incidences. The Trump administration prioritised religious freedom in domestic and foreign policy by immediately auditing the entire federal government to identify incidences where administration policies violated the first amendment, and they corrected them, including by settling dozens of the active, aforementioned courts cases.

On the international front, the administration began reorienting humanitarian programs to assist persecuted religious minorities which had been overlooked in countries like Iraq by United Nations’ programs, and just a few months ago the State Department hosted a global symposium on international religious freedom that brought together senior government officials from more than 70 countries.

An entire book could be written on the way the Trump administration supports religious freedom, but one of the more recent examples is their use of severe sanctions against Turkey in response to their ongoing and unjust imprisonment of an American pastor, Andrew Brunson.

2. He protects the unborn
Without question, the Trump administration is more obviously pro-life than any previous administration since abortion became legal in the United States, and at a time when public opinion has moved rapidly against abortion, even among Democrats despite the party leaderships’ near-total unwillingness to accommodate pro-life Democrats.

The head of the Susan B. Anthony List, a noted pro-life organisation, didn't initially support candidate Trump but has since come to deem him "the most Pro-life president in American history" because of numerous policies he has introduced.

During the 2016 campaign, many evangelicals were deeply moved by hearing Trump's own story as to why he changed his opinion on abortion and one of the most profound moments of the election was in the final presidential debate when Secretary Clinton startlingly voiced her ongoing support for late-term abortion, despite the grotesque practice being banned by both the US Congress and the United States Supreme Court. Trump has fulfilled his promise to greatly strengthen pro-life policies.

3. He's addressing judicial over-reach
In many ways, the 2016 election was an election not made by Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump but by the sudden death of the reliably conservative Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia, putting the long conservative balance of the court in jeopardy.

President Trump's successful appointment of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court as Scalia's replacement represented the fulfillment of his single most important promise to the evangelicals who put him in office.

This week, his second nominee to the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh, will begin his confirmation process and he is equally regarded as a trusted conservative, whose confirmation could guarantee a conservative Supreme Court for at least a generation. This is another fulfilled promise.

4. He's advancing criminal justice reform
While not an issue he campaigned in support of, President Trump has become a surprising advocate for criminal justice reform in the United States, a policy concern long advocated for by evangelicals whose passion for prisoners finds its roots in the New Testament itself.

The President’s son-in-law and senior advisor, Jared Kushner, came into the White House with his own unrelenting passion for prison reform and has found in the evangelical community a natural and effective ally.

Because of it all, the United States’ Congress is on the verge of passing the first significant reform to America’s widely criticised prison system in over 30 years. The President’s evolution on the issue is largely considered the result of his evangelical advisors as has been the case with the President’s evolution on certain immigration issues, such as providing his support for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States by their parents when they were children.

5. He's addressing the opioid epidemic
The abuse of opioids in the United States is the nation's most significant drug problem, directly or indirectly affecting millions of Americans. The administration has forcefully taken on this addiction crisis, even when it meant taking substantial measures against large American companies despite opposition from the President's own party.

Evangelical pastors, who walk through addiction with members of their congregations, have been on the frontline of this developing crisis for years. The Trump administration has acted with the full force of the federal government, and it has already saved many lives.

6. He's strengthening the family
The administration's widely supported tax cuts, which were passed by the Republican-controlled Congress, under the direction of the President, included the doubling of the standard tax credit given to parents for their children, and the administration is now well on its way to finally introducing to American life a meaningful program to support "paid family leave."

The United States is far behind Europe in these types of social programs, but the Trump administration appears to have found an approach that would be considered fiscally responsible by Republicans even while meeting a long-term policy priority of Democrats.

7. The economy is thriving
The administration's economic policies - from deregulation to workforce development - have resulted in nearly 3 million Americans being taken off of government assisted food programs, over 5 trillion dollars being added the United States' economy, and the lowest ever unemployment numbers among African Americans, Hispanic Americans, young people, and women.

The overall unemployment number is at its lowest since 1969. In 2017, Americans were also more generous than ever before donating at least $410 billion to charity, the highest number on record.

Taking our seat at the table
Those are some of the reasons why President Trump enjoys the highest approval rating any Republican president has ever received from the Republican Party.

Obviously, these highlights only represent part of an always-imperfect picture, but we mustn't deceive ourselves into thinking there aren't logical reasons to support this unconventional president.

Earlier this year, when liberal American Bishop Michael Curry decided to parlay the gift of newfound fame into a candlelit march on the White House just two days after he was entrusted with preaching at the Royal Wedding, I was asked by CNN what I thought of the opinions of Christians like Curry who so ardently oppose the Trump administration.

Here was my answer, "many of them are my friends, too, and we happen to mainly agree on the challenges facing our country and our world. We just sometimes disagree on the solutions."

One might disagree with the merits of the administration’s policies or the by-product of their approach, but one must acknowledge that many reasonable people support the administration’s policies on the basis of facts, not ideology.

As for evangelicals, I’ve personally seen the constructive work of many in our community precisely because we’ve taken our seat at the table, very often serving as the reasonable center building bridges between polarised extremes.

Rev. Johnnie Moore is an author, religious freedom advocate and the founder of The KAIROS Company, one of the world’s leading, boutique public relations consultancies. Moore is often referred to as the informal spokesperson for those evangelicals who advise the Trump administration.

Johnnie Moore, Premier 13 Comments [9/7/2018 2:14:22 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140338

Black holes are just another non-existent theory.

Like the Big Bang, the theorized early non-oxygen environment; the origin of life from non-living materials; the chance production of protein molecules; and evolution of life-forms from one phylum, class, order, or family into other ones,—black holes look good on paper but do not exist in reality.

This is the evolutionists’ reasoning: "We know that black holes (‘singularities’) exist, because some sources emit a lot of X-rays. If a lot of X-rays are coming from a single source, it must be a black hole." Based on this, they have invented accretion disks, capturing and evaporating black holes and mini-black holes. The only evidence for black holes is X-rays from outer space. Remember that.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 15 Comments [9/7/2018 2:16:47 PM]
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Quote# 140296

Parents charged after son dies during month of fasting to get 'blessing from God'

REEDSBURG, WI (WKOW/CNN) – The parents of a 15-year-old boy face felony child neglect charges after their son died of starvation while the family was fasting in an alleged religious practice.

The teenager's father, 49-year-old Kehinde Omosebi, appeared in court Tuesday, where he was officially charged with two counts of neglecting a child. His wife, 48-year-old Titilayo Omosebi, did not appear in court but has been arrested.

A criminal complaint filed Tuesday claims Kehinde Omosebi failed to provide food for his 15-year-old and 11-year-old sons. The father went to the police station Monday to report the 15-year-old, Ayanfe Omosebi, had died.

Police officers reporting to the family’s home described the 15-year-old's body as extremely emaciated. They say there was no food or eating utensils in the home.

The 11-year-old boy was in poor health when police arrived. He was emaciated and had a hard time walking and talking, police say. The criminal complaint states he had to be carried out of his bedroom because he was unable to walk on his own.

Doctors say the boy will have to stay in the hospital for an extended time as he is treated and returns to eating regularly.

Authorities say there was no electricity in the family home, and the only furniture they found were four metal chairs in the living room, all facing one another.

There were also padlocks placed on the doors on the inside of the house in such a way "someone on the inside would be confined to the home and unable to leave," according to court records.

Kehinde Omosebi claimed the family was part of a religious group affiliated with Cornerstone Reformation Ministries. Police say they can find no records supporting the claim.

The 49-year-old told police the family had begun fasting July 17 in order to receive a "blessing from God" to move to Atlanta.

According to the criminal complaint, the 15-year-old died Aug. 31, the day Kehinde Omosebi said the fasting was supposed to end. The family reportedly prayed for two days per their religious beliefs before the father reported his son’s death.

The father allegedly told police the family had fasted with the children before but "not for this long."

Officers say they found a handwritten note addressed to county lawyers from the 11-year-old which included the statements, "The hunger is too much. Please help me now so I may eat. I can’t continue in such a life with no food."

The letter referenced it had been five days since he and his family had eaten anything.

Officers had contact with all four family members May 21 when they were putting religious pamphlets on cars in a grocery store parking lot, according to Reedsburg Police Chief Timothy Becker.

Becker says the children appeared in good health at the time.

Kehinde and Titilayo Omosebi, WIS 2 Comments [9/7/2018 1:43:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 140333

This is one of the reasons some atheists such as Anthony Flew eventually accepted God as a first cause, as initial inception explanations of matter then life how life got started amounted to a spontaneous appearance by the combination of time and coincidence.

if you wait long enough a big bang will occur manifesting matter where there was nothing before ,
if you wait long enough the inert matter will combine into stars and planets
if you wait long enough complex molecules will combine producing life that will evolve
if you wait long enough evolution will produce persons reading arstechnica.com on cell phone screens while riding the subway to work.

SteamArst, ars technica 7 Comments [9/7/2018 2:15:03 PM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 50610

No, I'm voting for her because she has her head screwed on. When will people get it through their thick head's that this is a Christian nation?
Obama/Biden aren't real Christians, they take the Lord's name in vain and throw it around like a Frisbee.

Kathe, WoW Offtopic 44 Comments [10/26/2008 7:05:13 AM]
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Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 50627

Well if you look to Judges 15, Samson actually defeated 1,000 with a jawbone. I don't consider that farfetched.

Gareth Peoples, Bebo 75 Comments [10/26/2008 12:52:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Somebody Else

Quote# 50933

You know why your supposed to spank your Kids and cause them physical Pain when they Sin?

Because God knows that Hell is a place of Immense Pain and Agony that Never ends.
And Showing them that sin = Punishment - and punishment = Pain is probably the most Important thing anyone can teach their kids.

Thank God for our Savior.

Turtle, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [10/26/2008 1:52:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Democritus

Quote# 140316

whats the lowest age you would go with another girl

Well I’ve answered this before on my previous blog. I’ve tried to find a repost of that reply, but I can’t seem to. I’ll attempt to recapitulate my original answer as closely as possible.

You might be expecting me to give you a number. Well I don’t judge this issue on age. Age is like a low-resolution measurement, and it doesn’t actually tell us anything about a person’s sexual suitability. To determine this trait, one should use a higher-resolution measure. I consider a girl’s sexual maturity just such a trait.

So what makes a girl sexually mature? Well first she must be self-aware. That is, she must have divorced her identity from the family unit and have established her own sense of self, her own preferences, and early opinions. Second, she must have entered puberty. This is a pretty straightforward component of sexual maturity, if you ask me. And third, she must have begun sexual exploration. That is, intentional, willful touching of her erogenous zones.

But I should point out that this standard of sexual maturity doesn’t easily translate to a universal age—that’s why I think consent laws are fraught with problems. Some girls don’t reach self-awareness until their 20s or early 30s! Some girls enter puberty as young as 7, or even earlier. And some girls simply never masturbate, owing to some curiosity within their mental programming. But if a girl is in possession of these three qualities, then she’s ready to engage in some degree of physical affection.

– Jax

Lil-loli-playhouse4, Tumblr 5 Comments [9/7/2018 2:02:04 PM]
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Quote# 50698

[when challenged to prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist]

God does not mention any flying spaghetti monster in His Word, the Bible. Since we know the Bible is true, we know things that are not recorded therein are untrue. Therefore the flying spaghetti monster does not exist. POINT PROVEN, ATHEIST.

Garvan Ellison, BBC Religion and Ethics 68 Comments [10/26/2008 4:03:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Barry

Quote# 50721

Unknown, Tiny Pic 89 Comments [10/26/2008 7:17:48 PM]
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Quote# 50662

That said, I believe that a homosexual can no longer get saved. They weren't born gay and God wanted them to get saved at some point. The reason they are that way is that they have pushed God too far and he has given up on them.

We also have an extended family member who is a homosexual. We had already distanced ourselves from that person before the news officially came out. We weren't surprised and still have no contact. I am sorry to hear that you are facing a similar situation. When someone seems questionable in that area, I would be polite in a group setting if necessary, but never leave my kids alone with that person for safety reasons. The person I am referring to has also abused children. When someone is a known pedophile or homosexual they should be completely cut off. I hope that answers your question.

Raani Starnes, Homeschooling Hints 57 Comments [10/28/2008 2:09:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Cybercat

Quote# 50639

Being tolerant is fine depending on what you're tolerant of. Homosexuality is one thing I am not fine with people tolerating. Teaching children to tolerate it only creates more confusion and more division in our society. Tolerance isn't a concept that should be taught at an early age to begin with.

GetOutOfMyYard, GameFAQs 44 Comments [10/26/2008 5:41:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Bill O'Rly

Quote# 50609

Our kids had their spring music concert the other night. We are a small town, and this is a big deal....anyhoo....we were walking in with our kids, and my dh's head did a double take. Right in front of us is a kindergartener...she is with her parents. AND, she is dressed in a little white flapper dress(super short) with BLACK FISH NET STOCKINGS and high heals. Her parents are quite well to do...he is a lawyer and she is a dentist.....and she sings in a Christian group. You could tell that they put alot of money making her look like that. At first, it made me so sad for the little girl....and then it made me mad that her parents did that to her. That my kids had to put up with someone dressed like that.....I am just so disgusted with the lack of judgement and morals. Its getting worse everyday. Sorry. Just had to vent....try explaining this to the "world", and I get responses like, "I thought she was cute."

House of Light, RR 50 Comments [10/26/2008 5:37:04 PM]
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Quote# 50884

I WAS TELLIN MY LIL BRO ABOUT THIS. imho the cosmos are changing i dont know how maybe G-D creating and getting final touches ready as well as earth simultaneously whos knows just a quick thought dont think too far into it. but i wouldnt blame one person or the average human we didnt ask for planes and cars and guns and all, but i would blame major coorporations, do u honestly believe they never new how to have hydrogen cars until recently, lets not be blind. oil. but if u take account what the experts are saying, if that shrinking took ten years, it should do considerably more damage in the next 5, this is starting to look like those robo cop, star ship trooper like commercials i used to find humorous when i was a kid, with the spf 8000 and all, its not so funny anymore.....as for obama, smh...he urkes me...i got my eye on him and im af. amer. and 24 not that it matters, im not easily fooed by the sound of the drum thanks to the teachings and blessings from the LORD

cinimod, Rapture Ready 47 Comments [10/26/2008 1:54:55 PM]
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Submitted By: The Lazy One

Quote# 50716

"The Bible will soon be proved to be an advanced science book and in time prove Charles Darwin's books of lies all fairy tales."

the chosen one, Yahoo! Answers 41 Comments [10/26/2008 5:26:24 PM]
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Submitted By: JM Gendron

Quote# 50725

[She thinks her sons teacher is a homosexual.]

This teacher has corrupted him into thinking this [homosexuality] is ok, he has always said he was his favorite teacher, now this.......we even let him take private lessons with him! I feel like such a bad mother. The teacher want to have a meeting with me and his father.
I am sure he's up to something with my son, I've taken him out of school. besides writing to the PTA, wonder should I get the police involved?

?Jayden's? ?Mommy? †, Yahoo! Answers 47 Comments [10/26/2008 5:22:15 PM]
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Submitted By: JM Gendron

Quote# 134643

What have Jews and black people done to you personally?

Other than send him to federal prison on bunk charges?

Other than that, destroy the institution of the family by filling civilization with a wide variety of sexual degeneracy from porn (pornography industry is entirely Jewish and they brag about it) to Tinder (made by two Jews, of course) to tricking kids into getting on HRT (tranny industry is Jewish doctors and Jewish PR firms acting in concert) to feminism (they brag about this too).

Multiracial society and desegregation has lead to lower trust and less cohesive civilizations across the board. It has destroyed the commons completely.

I hated Jews far before they put me in prison on false charges for telling the truth about them. The reality is that destroying the fabric of my civilization and turning it into a clown world full of tranny kids, nigger criminals, stagnating per capita wealth, morally bankrupt whores, and waning essential liberties like freedom of speech and free association are doing something to me personally. They are depriving me of the right to live in the civilization that my forefathers bled and suffered to give me. I'd write a $200k check right now to be able to live in some "backward" civilization that was like the early 19th century or anything that came before it, before the Jews wrecked all the white world by destroying the fabric of it all with feminist ideologies.

I just want to live in a nice, simple, white country where everything is like it was for the vast majority of human civilization. They have stolen that from me, because everywhere there is a television is absolutely ruined and on a spiritual downward path. Thanks, Jews.

weev, Kiwi Farms 21 Comments [11/28/2017 11:22:44 PM]
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