Quote# 12834

lol lol lol. WOW!!!!!!!! I am so happy that I came to a site where everyone knows everything. Yes, it has been 200 years since Christ was here. So you think since it hasn't happened yet that it will not happen?? Everyone here seems to be looking for flaws in Christianity and to find something to point out and jump up and down about. I guess your "no God" thing is the answer. Well then count me in, we should all get together and burn bibles together!!!! NO WAY HOLMES!!!!!!! Look at current events, Jerusalem, HOLYLAND............Jesus will return as a saviour, hmmmmmm...................Jerusalem is on the brink of yet another holy war. hmmmmmm........................ Look at the weather, last winter here in Ohio we had 60 degree days last winter when it was supposed to be 20 degrees.....hmmmmm.......tsunamis...................Louisianna hurricane????????....................Things aren't the same anymore people. Don't tell me el~nino, RIGHT!!!!!!!!! He will return. The apocolypse..................what will you do??? Seek him now while you still can.

Godisreal, Why Won't God Heal Amputees 36 Comments [7/5/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 129821

On today’s episode of his “WallBuilders Live” radio program, Republican political activist and Religious Right pseudo-historian David Barton blamed gay people for the high cost of health care.

“The most expensive cost for health care in America per person is not seniors, it’s not those who live to be 100 years old,” he claimed. “The most expensive health care cost in America right now, by far, individually, is for homosexuals. They cost more in the system than any other, hands down.”

“You’ll find that all over insurance stuff, they all admit it,” Barton continued. “I’m not homosexual and I don’t have those health problems. As a matter of fact, I don’t smoke and I don’t drink, so I don’t have those health problems. As a matter of fact, I really exercise a lot, I control my diet, I have very few health problems but I’m having to pay for everybody else’s health problems. If my health insurance reflected my lifestyle, my health insurance would be really, really, really cheap. But when I’m having to pay for everybody’s bad decisions.”

David Barton, Right Wing Watch 18 Comments [7/27/2017 9:34:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 47174

The only thing I've found that can protect me or my family from the garbage we live around in this world is a relationship with Jesus Christ. I've found that no matter where I go, I am bombarded with sin, and I don't live in that big of a city. There is lasciviousness and debauchery everywhere. It's impossible to escape unless one were to live in a cave. T.V is rampant with lewdness, vulgarities, and a sinful competitiveness to "one up" the other stations. It's all about viewers and cash, it's all greed. The mentality is: "the more offensive, the more taboo, the more people will talk about it long after it's over." It's all about money. This is what happens to a nation when God is rejected from every public venue. We slide into this pit of sludge and sin. I am happy to know Jesus and that everything on this planet is coming to an end as we know it.

Not Perfect, But Forgiven, RaptureReady 56 Comments [9/12/2008 6:37:55 PM]
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Quote# 129823

We commend your courage for reversing the dangerous, damaging transgender policy of former President Obama, and we urge you to continue to resist the gender ideologies of the left and LGBT activist groups.

National Organization for Marriage, Act Right 8 Comments [7/27/2017 9:39:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129824

Anal sex is demonic. There’s no other way to understand it. Using the anus as a substitute vagina is a desire from the pit of hell.

Linda Harvey, WND 23 Comments [7/27/2017 9:39:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129825

Dominionist prayer warrior Lou Engle appeared on “The 700 Club” yesterday to promote the “Rise Up” prayer rally he is organizing on the National Mall in October, which is designed to be an anti-choice response to the Women’s March which took place in Washington, D.C., following the inauguration of President Trump.

Engle told co-host Wendy Griffith about a prophetic dream in which he was told by God that “there are certain powers of darkness that can only be broken by women.”

“I believe abortion is one of them,” Engle said, explaining that he is organizing this prayer event because “it is the hour for a great mobilization of women” to end legal abortion in America.

Griffith and Engle then agreed that the recent “Wonder Woman” movie was a prophetic sign that “God is doing something in the spirit realm.”

“The movie is amazing,” Engle said. “My dream was that only women can break certain kinds of principalities and powers. I think sometimes Hollywood prophesies better than the church does.”

Lou Engle, Right Wing Watch 6 Comments [7/27/2017 9:39:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129826

End Times radio host Rick Wiles went on a rant on his “TruNews” program yesterday over reports that drag queens are reading stories to children at libraries across the country, declaring that such events are “another sign we’ve entered the time of Sodom and Gomorrah.”

Looking at photos of these gatherings “will make you want to vomit,” Wiles said. “Sodom and Gomorrah drag queens are being invited by librarians to read stories to children … God have mercy on this nation. America has become a wicked nation, worse than Sodom and Gomorrah. Worse than Sodom and Gomorrah! We’re wicked, we’re perverse, we deserve judgment.”

Wiles said that the only reason that God hasn’t already unleashed His judgement on America is “because He is giving this nation more time to repent before the nation is destroyed,” warning that His mercy will not last forever.

“How long do you think the righteous, holy God is going to allow America’s sodomites to defile the children?” he asked. “What do you think these drag queens are? They’re pedophiles. It’s a sick society … We’re sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into Sodom and Gomorrah and into debauchery. At what point does God cut it off in America to save the children from hell?”

Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 8 Comments [7/27/2017 9:39:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129889



#LeftyLogic #SJW #Regressive #SnowFlakes #ThoughtPolice

Reluctant Conservative, Facebook 12 Comments [7/29/2017 7:59:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129928



Anonymous, Twitter 15 Comments [7/30/2017 2:40:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

The "Uniter" Award

For a man so divisive he makes us almost agree with afchief

Quote# 117523

If you, as an evangelical Christian, want to vote for the most immoral, unethical man (Trump) who ever ran for US President because you are "Angry" then be my guest. But realize that this is a sign of the end times.
"For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness."
"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."

afchief, The Economic Collapse 32 Comments [3/17/2016 2:51:41 AM]
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Quote# 129946


Fossils prove the flood in Genesis:

Fossils were formed when minerals (silica, especially) penetrated the tissues of plants and animals - under extreme pressure - turning them to stone; the result of being buried in mud under miles of water for a year.

Reptiles never stop growing as long as they live and the lifespan of some animals can be determined by the size of their fangs, horns, tusks or antlers. Trees and some grasses also never stop growing until they die.

Fish rot, or get eaten when they die, they don't turn into fossils. But fish fossils are found at high altitudes all over the world.

The only reason why fossils exist is because of the flood; 5000 years ago everything lived about ten times longer because the atmosphere was like a hyperbaric chamber (we know this from air samples extracted from fossilized sap). Science validates The Bible.

All Hail Jesus!, Y! answers 12 Comments [7/30/2017 1:03:08 PM]
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Quote# 129951

Dean Bailey, 50, is not afraid to tell anyone he is living proof that ‘sexual orientation’ can in fact be changed. But he prefers to use the word ‘restored’ rather than ‘changed.’

Bailey remembers how from an early age he felt different from other boys. He felt he did not fit in and thought of himself as awkward, out of place. He remembers never feeling treasured or affirmed by his dad who was an alcoholic and who consumed pornography. Bailey believes this began a pattern of turning to other males to find the affirmation he never received from his dad.

When a new outgoing boy began to attend school when Bailey was in grade three, he remembers trying hard to become the boy’s friend. It was during a sleepover at the boy’s house that Bailey was introduced to sexual play, including streaking and oral copulation. The experience not only robbed him of his childhood innocence, but awakened in him a sense of sexual curiosity.

From here, Bailey became preoccupied with images of male nudity and with taking more daring sexual risks with different boys. As he grew older, the sexual acts Bailey performed with other boys became as a source of comfort to him, making him believe he was being loved and accepted.

But while such acts would make him feel good for a while, he says they were never able to help him overcome the constant theme of emptiness and brokenness he felt inside. The sexual activities quickly became addictive.

When a schoolgirl refused to go on a date with him that seemed to signal to the now-teenage Bailey that he was not a normal guy. Then, a few years later, a sexually awkward one-night stand with a woman seemed to confirm to him that he did not have what it took to be a man.

Bailey was now a young man in the military. Although in the meantime he had gotten married, he continued to crave male intimacy and experience gripping same-sex attractions. An intimate but non-sexual encounter with a military male friend whom he greatly admired eventually led to explicit homosexual behaviors.

The encounter severely damaged the relationship Bailey had previously enjoyed with his wife as she felt she could no longer trust the man she had married.

Having experienced homosexual acts, Bailey now struggled inwardly with intense homosexual desires that could only be allayed through carnal gratification, or so it seemed to him. Feelings of insecurity only intensified these inclinations.

His previous homosexual experiences drove him to seek answers to his insecurities through further homosexual encounters. A downwards spiral ensued as Bailey attempted to satisfy his desires, but only saw them grow in intensity the more he indulged them. Looking back, Bailey now realizes how homosexual acts had become an addiction for him.

Bailey credits God for acting powerfully in his life to save him from himself, change his life for the good, and ultimately bring about his deliverance from homosexual attractions. God led him on a journey of trust that ultimately led to the heart of Jesus Christ. Here Bailey experienced the love, acceptance, and affirmation he had always craved.

To put it simply, says Bailey, he fell in love with the person of Jesus. He experienced Him through prayer and through reading the Bible. All Bailey wanted now was to become more like Jesus, more Christ-like. As he began acting more and more on this desire, Bailey noticed a transformation begin to take place in his sexual desires. The homosexual desires began to decrease. For the first time in his life, Bailey began to see himself differently, this time through the eyes of a Savior who — he now realized — loved him unconditionally.

Looking back on his past, Bailey says he now sees that he has been brought out of what he calls the “sexual confusion of homosexual behaviors” to a sexual clarity in mind and heart. He has left behind what he calls the “self-defeating environment of my own, very negative self-image” and moved into an unshakable understanding of his value and self worth as a beloved child of God.

Bailey wrote about his entire journey in his 2011 book titled “Beyond the Shades of Gray.” Most of the book is available online at his website. He speaks publicly about his struggle with homosexuality, telling audiences that homosexuality is a “sexual addiction and dependency,” not a condition to be socially accepted and celebrated. “It is merely one of the many evidences of the broken, spiritual condition of our human race,” he tells people.

In an interview with LifeSiteNews from Texas where he lives with his wife Della and his two college-aged daughters, Amber and Amanda, Bailey spoke about what he has gained by leaving behind the homosexual identity, the role of God in bringing about sexual healing, about his views on the Christian understanding of homosexuality, and about why stories like his are shunned by the mainstream.

Dean Bailey, LifeSiteNews 4 Comments [7/30/2017 1:04:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129923

One of the problems I have with “Lilo and Stitch”] is Disney’s definition of “family.” I do empathize with two orphaned sisters, but this is a typical Disney backstory. We see it over and over again—the absence of parents. We also see the family redefined to include an adopted genetically engineered alien and a cute boyfriend. It is the slick political blending of “It takes a village to raise an alien” and “Leave no alien behind.” Once again pity overpowers our sense of reason and we miss the long-term implications of cloning as a solution for adoptive parents.

We, also, miss current campaign to redefine family as any collection of individuals that love each other. My final problem is in the area of imitative behavior. I watched Lilo in her frustration fight with a girl and then bite her on the arm. The next day I was in Wal-mart and observed a girl bite her brother on the arm after calling him one of the names reinforced in this film “stupid head.” The mother was in horror and asked her daughter where she learned such inappropriate behavior. She replied that she saw Lilo do it when yesterday when Grandma took them to the movies. This is only one of many scenes with behavior that is unacceptable. Our children deserve better role models. All I can say is “be careful little eyes what you see.” I strongly recommend parents to skip this one.
—Douglas Downs

Douglass Downs, Christian Answer  13 Comments [7/30/2017 2:37:56 AM]
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Quote# 129936

My daughter practiced Falun Dafa at the age of three. Before the onset of the persecution in 1999, I took her with me when I talked to people about this cultivation practice, to group practice, and to group Fa-study.

When she was not feeling well, she told herself that she was fine because Master was protecting her. As she became a teenager, she began to struggle with her sexual identity. I asked Master to give me courage and compassion, so that I could help my daughter, and she ultimately returned to cultivate in Dafa.

My daughter turned into a withdrawn teenager and no longer wanted to share her thoughts with me. I thought that this was just a phase, but gradually she became even quieter.

When I read her diary one day, I found out that she was struggling with her sexual identity. This was shocking news and I almost collapsed.

I knew that only Dafa could save her, but she refused to read Master’s teachings with me.

“I know Dafa is good,” she said, “but the requirements are too high for me. You go ahead and cultivate, and I will do what I’m fond of.”

Our friends said that they knew many young people who were lesbians or homosexuals, but we could not accept the fact that our daughter was a lesbian.

To help her resolve her identity crisis, I took her to psychologists and tried a number of different methods, but nothing worked. Ultimately, I no longer could discuss the subject with her. She even signed an agreement to end the father-daughter relationship with my husband. We felt desperate.

We could only hope that she would change after entering college, but that did not happen either. She actually dated another girl.

I cried every time I thought about her. Since we could not face each other, I began to write to her. While watching her sound asleep one night, I typed a very long letter to her with tears in my eyes.

“Dear daughter,” I said, “you’re my only child. This world is a pit filled with poisons, but you should not fall like so many others have done.”

While we were in despair, I heard a voice in my mind that said, “Falun Buddha Fa, the mighty Buddha powers are boundless.” The world brightened and brought happiness to my mind.

Master said,

“I can tell you, we're cultivators, so you need to treat all of the sentient beings around you as compassionately as you can.”

“I think that you absolutely shouldn't be discouraged or apathetic. Do this compassionately no matter who it is, and with a compassion that can melt steel you'll be able to do it well.” (“Explaining the Fa During the 2003 Lantern Festival at the U.S. West Fa Conference”)

With hope rising in my mind, I pleaded, “Master, please help my daughter return to Dafa.”

As I was feeling hopeful, my daughter and husband had another fight. She was so upset that she left home and stayed overnight in an airport. Fortunately, she called me and after some discussion agreed to stay at her friend’s place.

After she came home a week later, I made her favorite food, and treated her just like before. I treated her with unconditional compassion.

I began to read Dafa books in her room after she returned, and also shared with her my cultivation experience and the beauty of Dafa. I noticed that she did not turn away, so I suggested, “Shall we read Dafa books together again?” She replied, “Mom, I’ll read Zhuan Falun with you tomorrow.” I could hardly believe my ears. Thanking Master from the bottom of my heart, I said, “My daughter is back!”

We finished watching Master’s nine-day lecture DVDs during the following two days, and also read Zhuan Falun repeatedly. At night, my husband watched the Nine Commentaries of the Communist Party DVDs with us. When it was showing practitioners being tortured, my daughter said with tears in her eyes, “Mom, if the evil people are not punished, there is no heaven’s law.”

She also enjoys the NTD television programs very much, and asked her father to watch them with her.

“I’ve read hundreds of books since grade school,” she said to her father, “but only Zhuan Falun has changed me.”

Witnessing the extraordinary change in our daughter, my husband changed his attitude toward Dafa. He now reads Zhuan Falun with us.

It is Falun Dafa that brought good fortune to my family and the return to a harmonious life.

Unknown author, Minghui 3 Comments [7/30/2017 1:02:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129965

[Commenting under "Mother sentenced to 8-10 years for withholding cancer meds from son"]

@Bill Otis:
The forthcoming torrent of defense-type excuses for this one ought to be a real doozy.


Bill: I strongly morally condemn what she did. Under 123D, she would likely go home, with some acts of atonement enforced by the court.

Safety is the first and last job of government. How does her going to prison make us safer? It makes us poorer, but not likely safer. I do not see how withholding treatment is assault and battery, and attempted murder. Is there a duty to rescue for this class of victim?

One thing about this autistic child, and why the law has come down so hard. Had he survived, he would have generated $millions in cost to the taxpayer, with zero return. So, her biggest sin? Not protecting future government jobs.

Supremacy Claus, Sentencing Law and Policy 17 Comments [7/31/2017 3:41:15 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 129939

The Left rejects the New Atheists because it was never truly atheist or secular. It is merely anti-Christian and anti-Western. The Left embraces Islam because it presently serves as a more effective anti-Christian weapon than the atheism or secular humanism upon which it previously relied.

The heart of the Left is Neo-Babelism, which is inherently globalist and Satanic in nature. All of its various ideologies, from communism to feminism to neo-liberalism to progressivism, are nothing more than the skinsuits it wears in its endless war against God. But unlike the New Atheists, the Neo-Babelists are not warring against the idea of God, much less questioning His existence. They are actually at war with the Almighty Himself, and His son, Jesus Christ.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 18 Comments [7/30/2017 1:03:03 PM]
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Quote# 129942

Hello, Internet Tumor!
Greetings, Fellow mortals! I Am An Anti-Feminist,Furry,Brony,SJW, Ect. Blog. If You Do not like it, Guess what? I Don’t give to flying fucks! I’ll be here to bring as much suffering to SJWs, Feminists, Furries, Bronies, SJWs, ECT For the time I Am here! I Sure do hope I Am welcomed.

i-am-very-happy, Tumblr 19 Comments [7/30/2017 9:20:18 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129944

My spiritual journey started off as one on a path of darkness and deception to a path of light and truth. The Lord has not only delivered from the demonic bondage of an occult past and heretical theology, but has also allowed me to experience Him in life-changing beautiful ways I never imagined were possible.

I remember first learning about God when I was in Kindergarten when I had asked my mother where the world came from and was told that many people believe that God created the world. I pondered on that thought for an entire day and felt confident that seemed logical. I was curious about where God came from, what God was like, and why He seemed so silent, but the theological answers to those questions were beyond the capacity of a child.

I was somewhat intrigued about God for a brief time, but what started as a positive spiritual course quickly went far into the completely opposite direction. I don’t remember how it all started, but I quickly came under a very dark influence and was completely intrigued by the idea of Satan being my father. Indeed, I became a child-Satanist. I truly believed and so verbally confessed that Satan was my true father and that I was a son of Satan. I would, in fact, often pray to demons to enter me to give me power. I was obsessed with the idea of having power, being feared, and controlling others, and believed I could obtain that by from demons.

I asked the demons in, and they came in. I became filled with terrible profanity and developed sexual and demonic obsessions. I spent large portions of my time daydreaming about perverse sexual fantasies (such that you would never imagine a child could have) and also constant fantasies regarding all the power of Satan awaiting me. At times, the demons in me would manifest. During those moments, they would fill me a demonic hatred for a person which would sometimes result in a burst of violence. For instance, in the third grade when I got mad at another child, I grabbed him by the throat and completely lifted him off the ground – his feet were dangling as I choked him with a single hand and his classmates beat on me to let him go. This is not possible in the natural for a child to have such strength to lift another child off of the ground completely with one hand. Just before it happened, I felt the surge of a demon giving me demonic strength and filling me with incredible hatred.

In addition to demonic strength, Satan gave me two other occult abilities. There was a particular instance at a restaurant where I conjured up a flame. My brothers kept teasing me when I explained what I was doing, but after several minutes of internal focus that flame shot up in the air. This was at a large family gathering – everyone saw it and was completely shocked. To this day, this event has been brought up again and again by my family members who saw it.

The other occult ability was the ability to speak in a demonic tongue. Almost every day, usually for 20 minutes, I would pace back and forth as I prayed in a demonic tongue. Absolutely no one had told me what “tongues” were – I had never heard the concept in any religion. I didn’t even fully understand it myself, but the ability to do so was given to me, and I was strangely compelled to pray in this demonic tongue daily. The words of this language sounded dark and twisted, and as I prayed in this demonic tongue, it filled me with a dark spiritual energy.

I never showed them to anybody, but I often drew pictures of evil demons and of people being tormented in Hell in terribly morbid ways. Rarely, I would also receive dreams from a demon. These were no ordinary dreams, nor any self-imagined nightmare, for they had a very strong unholy spiritual presence to them. In the same way people can receive dreams from God, the devil can give people dreams as well. These dreams would try to pull me deeper into the occult by planting some sort of dark desire inside of me. Usually these dreams were about the choice between being a vampire or a shapeshifter, but also a strong pull to commit a particular sin. (This may be very hard to believe for those ignorant of the occult realm, but real Satanists when they reach a certain rank, choose between becoming a vampire or a shapeshifter. These “fictional” concepts in the movies actually take their inspiration from the occult. While these are not entirely like their portrayal in the movies, high-ranking Satanists do have the extreme demonic power to become those things. Just as angels and demons can take on different forms, so too, when can they so possess a person’s body can use those same demonic powers to change the occultist’s body. Satan often pressed upon me which choice I would make if I kept on the path of Satanism.)

As a Satanist, I didn’t hate God, I simply rarely thought about Him – He seemed like a very distant figure. When I did think about God, I was filled with strong jealousy. Yes, sadly, I very jealously wanted to be God. I didn’t understand the Trinitarian view of Christ’s Deity, and so when I imagined Jesus, I imagined him as a weak man without real power and wanted nothing to do with Him.

I did not share this with anyone for a long time, but I had also developed homosexual attractions at this young age and actually engaged in homosexual practices. But since I was still incredibly lustful towards women, “bisexual” would be the correct term for my sexual orientation. I was not delivered of these gay tendencies until much later on, which I will get to later.

(...)

The next pinnacle spiritual event in my life that took place was a very unpleasant, yet completely necessary, event to deliver me from my dark past. As I explained earlier in my testimony, I was once a Satanist that invited many demons into my soul, to the point of having demonic abilities. But where had all of those demons gone? Due to my old Baptist background, I was always under the impression that Christians could not have demons. In fact, I feel embarrassed when I look back on the moments when I once assured other Christians that it’s impossible for believers to have demons. I know that may sound logical, but it’s actually not true. There are no Scriptures at all that state this, but since the Bible is not explicitly clear on the issue, many have just assumed it is not possible – an erroneous assumption indeed. The reasoning is that ‘light and darkness can’t mix, therefore the Holy Spirit and demons couldn’t possibly both live in the same body’. Despite this reasoning, the Bible doesn’t actually say that, and I was soon about to experientially discover this assumption was false.

I had come to realize that the many demons I invited in my soul had never really left me. It was not as though they just magically disappeared when I first received Christ in my heart. The reason I never felt them leave was because they never had left. Scripturally, demons have never left a person without being cast out. I wished it were not true, but I could absolutely feel evil spirits inside of me. They were basically in hiding for a long time, but at different times in the strong presence of God is when I could feel them surface because God’s presence had made them uncomfortable, squirmy, and/or angry. What I once wanted inside of me for power, I now desperately wanted out. In short, my pastor met with me regularly over a period of several weeks to lead me into renunciation prayers regarding my occult and sinful past, followed by commanding any demons associated with those things to leave.

Being something completely outside my control, demons would manifest as they came out. This experience was very unpleasant, to say the least. When the demons were commanded to come out, they would often manifest and fight for control for a brief moment. I was helplessly unable to stop them from manifesting – they would make me fall to the ground and shake my body, and they came out in very loud eerie screams and shrieks, sometimes deep growling as well. Although unpleasant and even a scary, I could feel the force of evil leaving me. The light of Christ was freeing me from my dark past.

Each deliverance session was different. (Among evangelical Christians, the word “deliverance” is used instead of “exorcism” to distinguish it from Catholic methods for casting out demons.) Many demons were easy to cast out, but some of them were stubborn. To be honest, I was very scared during some of these sessions. The experience of feeling demons inside you, manifesting your body without your control, and feeling them fight to stay inside of you is a very terrible experience, to say the least. It was common that afterwards I would feel extremely exhausted. This was probably the hardest thing I had went through in my Christian walk at that time. I had invited so many demons into me several years ago, and one by one they were now coming out.

Many people have asked me what I felt like afterwards. It’s difficult to describe, but it was basically like a spiritual “heaviness” that was always there now being permanently removed. Each demon that came out was like taking off a jacket I had worn for such a long time unknowingly. I felt “light”, free, cleansed, and spiritually rejuvenated. Additionally, many things I had dealt with all these years left me because they were caused by those demons. I used to have strange perverse dreams, random very difficult struggles with hate, and various health problems that all left after I was delivered from the demons. I didn’t realize just how much of my strange health problems were actually caused by demons. For example, I used to have strange experiences of feeling some sort of incredibly heavy weight of tiredness and brain fog pressed upon me that was very mentally oppressive – it was sort of like having the worst imaginable jet lag in the world. That went away of course when the demon that would cause it was rebuked.

Demons do in fact cause people to struggle with strong sinful drives and health problems until they are cast out. I thought these things were normal struggles of mine, but realized they were actually due to the demons all along. Although a terrible thing to go through, it was necessary, and consequently I experienced a freedom I never knew was possible. When all was said and done, I continued my spiritual journey in the Lord.

Christopher Jethro, GodRevelations 7 Comments [7/30/2017 9:22:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Worst "Proof" of God Ever Award

Formulated by the dumbest "Superintelligence" ever.

Quote# 129895

If the human race could collectively go one single 7-day period without committing any of the acts that God describes as sins in the Bible, I would agree that God doesn't exist. If God does not exist and evil is nothing more than how we happen to describe certain human choices, then obviously it is possible for Man to not commit evil as it is described in the Bible as the violation of God's Will. In fact, even if only 10 people could manage to go about their normal daily lives for a single week without sin, I think this would be a remarkable piece of evidence against the existence of God.

If, however, Man cannot refrain from committing evil despite consciously choosing to do so, then obviously the Biblical model of fallen Man is more in line with observable reality than the godless model, thereby indicating that Man's morality is defined by the Will of an existent God.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 21 Comments [7/29/2017 8:00:28 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 129959

FRANKLINTON, N.C. — A sign in a Granville County yard urging people to "kill liberals" is the latest in a string of fiery political messages posted by the homeowner, according to people in the area, who say they mostly ignore the rhetoric and the man behind it.

The sign, at the corner of Bruce Garner Road and Pocomoke Drive 2 in the southeast corner of the county reads "Civil War 'Now' Kill Liberals." The man who posted it wasn't home Wednesday when a WRAL News crew stopped by.

"This is quite offensive, and before the election, he had other offensive signs, too," said Ravinder Bindra, who runs a country store about a quarter-mile away on Bruce Garner Road. "I don’t pay, most of the time, any attention."

Bindra said the sign's owner stops by his store almost daily, but the Sikh immigrant from India said the man never bothers him.

"He has not been any trouble to me so far," he said. "I don’t know what his name is. See, nobody cares about him."

Bindra said the signs don't signal local sentiment.

"(If it) was of a majority of the people, then I’d be worried, but a single person like him, I’m not worried about any mishappening or anything," he said.

Unknown Granville County man, WRAL 10 Comments [7/30/2017 8:38:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 129938

(Responding to her own story "Man sentenced for stabbing date 119 times after learning his date was a man pretending to be a woman"):

NOTE: This was posted on Lady Checkmate's NEWS channel "News Network" and not her "Christian" channel:

"We must NOT ignore the fact that Mr. Hickerson was raped and deceived into an act of abomination by another man, Mr. Whigham, who falsely presented himself as a woman, knowingly and intentionally lied to Mr. Hickerson to deceive him and trick him into unnatural sex with him, i.e., rape. Both were victims of Mr. Whigham's con and deception.

There should be laws against deception and con artists tricking straight people into homosexual sex. If there was such a law in place, then Mr. Whigham's deception could've been addressed formally and NOT just some game that the sexually immoral (they to) play on straight people.

Prayers for ALL involved."

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 13 Comments [7/30/2017 1:02:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129916

Who, REALLY, is this man we affectionately call Santa Claus?

What do we REALLY know about Santa?

Is Santa just a jolly ol’, harmless, friendly fellow?

Or is there something or someone else hiding behind jolly ol’ St. Nick?

Before we look at Santa, let’s begin with some basic Bible facts:

The Bible clearly teaches a powerful, rebellious, subtle, evil being called the Devil, Lucifer or Satan.
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The Bible teaches Satan rebelled against God. And Satan’s reason for rebellion is to be God. Satan’s goal is to de-throne God and persuade mankind to rebel against God.
Isaiah 14:12-14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
The Bible clearly teaches Satan’s primary attack is the most vulnerable. In Luke 10:19, Jesus Christ compares Satan to lightning, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven". Lightning, like Satan, always travels the path of least resistance. The Bible also likens the devil to a "roaring lion" The lion is a "predator of opportunity". The lion looks for the injured, the youngest, the smallest, or the weakest – the one with the least ability to run or fight. So it is with Satan. He’s "seeking" those "whom he may devour".
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
The great German Reformer, Martin Luther writes in his Table Talks:

"The devil plagues and torments us in the place where we are most tender and weak. In Paradise, he fell not upon Adam, but upon Eve."
(The Table Talk of Martin Luther, #424)
The most vulnerable and least resistance are our children. It’s no accident that the Lord Jesus Christ distinctively warns several times against harming or offending these "little ones".

Matthew 18:1-6
1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
The Lord Jesus invites, and encourages little children to come unto him. The younger years are by far the most spiritually fruitful in the life-cycle of an individual.

Mark 10:13-15
13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
Luke 18:15-17
15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

Without question the most fertile time in the average persons’ life for receiving and trusting the Lord Jesus is the pre-teen years. Any church bus worker or youth worker knows young children are very receptive to the gospel of Jesus Christ. For them that "child like" faith is natural. It’s what the Lord Jesus described in Matthew 10:15. As we get older; the sensual, youthful lusts and logical, carnal mind begin to dominate our minds. And as that happens, our heart becomes hardened and seared to the spiritual things of God.

Barna Research Group published a survey conducted among teenagers titled Third Millennium Teens. Under the subtitle "Displacing the Myths", the report said:

"The Myth: the teen years are evangelistically productive.
The Reality: if they're not saved by age 13, they probably never will be.
The report goes on to say, "The data shows clearly that the prime evangelistic years are those before a person becomes a teenager." (George Barna, Third Millennium Teens, p. 65)

If the most productive time of salvation are the pre-teen years, and if the pre-teen years are the most vulnerable – does it not stand to reason that Satan would fiercely attack this time? Can we not see the overwhelming evidence of this Satanic attack on our children? From the sexual, sensual music of Brittney Spears, or Nsync, to the occult and witchcraft of Harry Potter – there is an attack aimed directly at our children. It’s blasting from the TV, the music, the Internet, the peer pressure, the public schools – Satan’s attack literally "seeks" to "devour them" into every "nook and cranny".

Many parents have been "lullabied to sleep" with the deception that our children are innocently immune to the attack of Satan. There’s a false security that believes our children will naturally "grow out of it" or "they’re just sowing their wild oats" or maybe "they’re just being kids". But the Bible tells a different story. In Mark chapter 9, God details a frightening occurrence. A man brings his "spirit possessed" son to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Mark 9:17-29
17 And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;
18 And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.
19 He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
20 And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
21 And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
22 And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
26 And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
27 But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.
28 And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?
29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.
It’s interesting the apostles could not cast out this "kind" (vs 29). Jesus said, "This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." What kind of possession was it? Is that why the Lord Jesus asked the man "How long is it ago since this came unto him?" And the man answered, "Of a child". Possibly, these "hard to cast out" kind are those that enter in a child. Is it because the "possession" reaches so deep and so strong that they’re almost impossible to remove?

In Proverbs 22:6, the Bible explains the lifelong fruits of training a young child in the way he should go. That early training is so strong and so deep – as that child grows and matures – they will not depart from it.

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
But. . . The flip side is: if that same child is trained by the ways of Satan and the world, chances are that child will "not depart from it." George Harrison, a devout follower of the Hindu god, Krishna, understood this life-long influence, Harrison told Rolling Stone Magazine:

"The main thing is to get the kids. . . nail you when you’re young and brainwash you, then they’ve got you for the rest of your life."
George Harrison, Beatles, (Loose Talk, Rolling Stone Magazine, p. 70)
It has been stated the foundation of a child is shaped by the time that child is five-years-old, maybe sooner. Without question, the early pre-teen or "Santa Claus" years are some of the most important in a person's life-long development. It has been truthfully said, "The hand that rocks the cradle controls the world."

That brings us to Santa. . .

Where does Santa Claus fit in the life of a young child? What about the teaching of Santa Claus in the psyche of a child? Is there more to jolly old St. Nick than meets the eye? Is Santa a clever, seemingly harmless, subtle (see Genesis 3:1) attempt to question the truthfulness of God? Is Santa the handiwork of Satan?

May I remind you of the "harmless" question, the subtle serpent, asks Eve in the garden? "Yea, hath God said,. . .?" So slight. . . So simple. . . And yet so deadly. . .

Not only that. . . Satan’s attack is not necessarily evil, or bad. In fact, it can be good, or even pleasant. The subtle temptation of Genesis reveals Satan’s clever "good and pleasant" message.

Genesis 3:6
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
As Eve saw the forbidden fruit, it was "good" and it was "pleasant" – and yet it was deadly.

The Devil is a "master of disguise". He can take that which looks good and pleasant, and seemingly so innocent – and make it so deadly. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 11:14, "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light" He doesn’t appear with horns and a pitch fork breathing fire. He might just appear as a pleasant, friendly, fellow, with "a broad face and a round little belly, That shook when he laughed, like a bowl full of jelly. . ."

I believe, and will prove, Santa Claus is a subtle, deadly attack on our children to confuse, doubt and rob their God-ordained "child like" faith. Satan knows, if he can somehow get that child through those fruitful early years without trusting the Lord Jesus Christ – his goal of eternal damnation in hell increases substantially.

Terry Watkins, Bible Believers  22 Comments [7/29/2017 12:20:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129958

In a recent discussion on Twitter, Chelsea Manning (formerly Bradley Manning), pardoned by President Obama after being convicted of espionage, argued that transgender “treatment” is necessary for the health of trans individuals, “because,” Chelsea stated, “not getting medical attention for trans people is fatal.”

Manning’s argument is anything but an isolated one. When seventeen-year-old Leelah Alcorn committed suicide in 2014, LGBT activists immediately jumped to blame his parents and society at large for causing the tragedy. Zack Ford of ThinkProgress wrote:

Leelah Alcorn’s death was a preventable tragedy. Here was a 17-year-old girl with full access to all of the information available in the 21st century about transgender identities, including many safe and effective ways to transition. But as she wrote in her own suicide note before jumping in front of a tractor trailer this week, there was no hope attached to those possibilities?—?no trust that it could, in fact, get better. She had given up on crying for help.

This, despite the young man’s parents support of his gender identity. He killed himself because his parents asked him to wait until he was eighteen to begin transitioning. They wouldn’t agree to pay for it earlier.

The argument can be summarized as follows. Without medical treatment (expensive surgery and lifelong hormone therapy), social acceptance, correct pronoun use, and open bathroom access, trans people will never be comfortable in their bodies or in society. Consequently, they are at a high risk for suicide, and it’s an injustice not to make these “treatments” available; the crime of killing trans people can even be laid at the feet of those who do not take these steps.

This argument, made by Manning, Ford, and so many others, is supposed to halt any criticism—or even querying—of gender theory, but it raises more questions than it answers.

The various liberal resources are shockingly equivocal as to what gender identity actually is. Gender identity is an “innermost knowing,” an issue of hormone imbalance, the result of a male brain in a female body, or a ‘transsexual’ brain, maybe an inherited characteristic, and many other possibilities, depending on whom you ask. According to some, gender is an inborn and permanent state; for others, a fluid awareness that might change by the day. How is it possible that a condition so insusceptible of consistent definition could be universally declared fatal without medical treatment?

Further, if transgenderism requires medical treatment, how can it form the basis of anyone’s identity? Trans people and their allies have, of course, insisted with great indignation that their condition is not an illness, but it is hard to see how this conclusion is to be avoided, if it’s insisted that it must be treated or else will be fatal.

Illnesses that require treatment do not constitute anyone’s identity. Being HIV-positive requires medical treatment. I do not identify as HIV-positive as though it made me an entirely new kind of person. It is a condition I need to treat in order to live and be healthy. How is being trans any different?

Aiming at Sex-Gender Alignment

The goal of most transgender individuals is to live as the opposite sex. If this were not true, there would be no concern about “access to health care” or medical necessity. If one could simply enjoy whatever gender identity felt the most appropriate at any given time, medical intervention would be merely cosmetic. So if we agree that people who identify as transgender desire to be the opposite sex to the best of their ability—arguing that internally they already are—then we must accept that the ideal state for all individuals is cisgender, where gender and sex align naturally.

In my experience, this assertion is viewed as hateful and intolerant. To suggest that people who identify as transgender desire to be “like everyone else,” “normal,” or—dare I say—“healthy” by aligning their gender and sex is to suggest a transgender identity is itself a state of error. But again, this seems to be what is presupposed by the argument that medical intervention is so vital that, without it, a person may commit suicide.

In order to achieve a healthy and mentally stable state, a trans person must have their gender and sex as closely aligned as possible. Why, though, does this require the physical sex to change in order to align to the perceived gender? Why shouldn’t the perceived gender be what changes?

It seems far more reasonable—and medically ethical and sound—to achieve this homeostasis by changing gender to match to the already established sex. A woman taking testosterone must continue taking testosterone, or else her desired masculine secondary sex characteristics will fade away (though if she has removed her ovaries, her body will not be able to produce estrogen and bring her female sex characteristics back). As many trans men prefer to keep their reproductive organs and become pregnant, this risk is even higher. The body’s aggressive and persistent attempt to return to a state, despite medical interventions to override that state, indicates that the state is “natural.” The body is being medically forced to adapt to conditions it is unsuited to experience.

If the ideal state is one of homeostasis, in which gender and sex are the same, then why would trans people dedicate their entire lives to forcing their bodies to adapt to conditions they cannot maintain on their own? It seems far more reasonable to recognize that the physical sex at birth is the standard by which internal perception should be aligned. Logically, wouldn’t a transgender person who suffers due to misalignment of gender and sex be equally as happy aligning his gender to his sex if the end result is that gender and sex are the same? Why is the only acceptable option to force, through dramatic physical deformity, the body to adapt to the mind instead?

We Need a Real Cure

Some trans advocates would presumably reply that sex should change rather than gender because sex can change, whereas attempts to change one’s gender usually end badly, but this response is unnecessarily pessimistic.

I have personally experienced gender dysphoria, and I explored transition in my early twenties. I am aware of the emotional struggle, and I am sympathetic to the sense of frustration and hopelessness. But I am also aware of the empowering realization that I alone control how I perceive the world. Even if I would prefer to be female, I understand that my body is male, and therefore the most effective and healthiest plan of action is to align my sense of gender to that unchangeable state. I have largely been successful, as I feel fully integrated today and am not only comfortable in my male body but find myself enjoying the pursuit of masculine physical progress.

An uncomfortable truth is that many surveys, including a 2011 Swedish study, indicate that suicide rates remain high after sex-reassignment surgery (the Swedish study reports that people who have had sex-reassignment surgery are 19 times more likely to die by suicide than is the general population); and the National Center for Transgender Equality reported in 2015 that 40% of people who identify as transgender have attempted suicide. The LGBT community actively fights such studies and suppresses the voices of people who, like myself, have chosen natural alignment or who regret transitioning. The medical community is currently uninterested in recognizing the inherent dangers and long-term impact of transition therapy and is equally unwilling to pursue study that may result in finding a cure or a resolution to the underlying issue. To suggest this is a medical issue needing to be cured is to be accused of proposing genocide.

But medical issues do need to be cured. If gender dysphoria is indeed naturally fatal without treatment, the only ethical solution is to find a cure that exposes the body to the least amount of risk. Obviously, this would be to correct the biological problem and/or address the psychological distress behind the dysphoria itself.

The LGBT movement has built a civilization around the validation of being “who you are” despite all efforts of judgment or persecution. Trans individuals often tell me they are now their “true gender.” Advocates like Zack Ford and others routinely demand that extreme social bigotry prevents the trans individual from living a full and happy life. But in the center of this storm of indignation and boasting of perseverance is the steady and quiet realization that these people are extremely insecure.

We cannot forget the real tragedy in all of this. People suffering from genuine mental anguish are being promised that with enough surgery, camouflage, social acceptance, legal protection, educational campaigns, and so on, they will finally feel whole as a person. Worse, they are told that the only reason they continue to suffer is due to the intolerance and hatred of those around them. The current method of addressing this concern is only making matters worse. Treatment needs to address the core problem.

Chad Greene, The Public Discourse 7 Comments [7/30/2017 8:37:43 PM]
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Quote# 129931

In a really awful attempt at humor, actress Mariam Sobh posted a video recently explaining why ex-Muslims speak out against the faith: They just want cash.

Not because they no longer believe in God.

Not because they think Islam in particular has tremendous potential for harm when people take the holy texts literally.

Not because they want other doubting Muslims to know there’s a safe place for them if they ever become “apostates.”

Nope. It’s only because they want to get in on some of that sweet ex-Muslim money.

It seems like everyone is looking for a way to make money fast! But what if I told you I could show you a way to make those dreams come true?

First, I have to ask you this. Do you happen to be a Muslim? If you answered yes, well, soon you won’t be. That’s because with this special program, you have to pretend you’re not one! Why? Well… hello! People who’ve had inside access to this faith are in high demand! You will be the go-to expert before you can say “Creeping Sharia.” All you have to do is join the “I’m Not A Muslim Anymore Tell-All Society” or INAMATAS.


She then lists the perks of being an ex-Muslim, including book deals, “six-figure speaking gigs,” VIP travel around the world, and political positions.

There are testimonials from two “members” of IMAMATAS who brag about some of those perks. In between, Sobh returns to say, “All you have to do is denounce your faith in a series of social media rants and wait for the trolls to bite! Once your story goes viral and receive at least one death threat, you’re a candidate!”

She closes with the line, “We do take a 90% cut on all speaking engagements.”

Mariam Sobh, Patheos 13 Comments [7/30/2017 2:42:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 129967

I was asked after Tiller’s death “What good did it do to kill Tiller, when someone else would fill Tiller’s shoes?” They were referring to abortionist Leroy Carhart. Carhart could not fill Tiller's bloody shoes. He has his own baby-killing practice. He cannot waltz into Tillers building, and order Tiller’s staff to help him kill babies. He cannot do the administrative work, nor does he have the friends or political contacts; he probably does not have the skill to kill the big babies without harming the mother.

If anybody could do what Tiller did his practice would not be so unique. Paul Seamars was an abortionist in Milwaukee. He left town after he and his wife went through a divorce. His wife hired a hit-man from New Jersey to do the abortions. That arrangement did not prove profitable and the death camp folded. Mark Crutcher of Life Dynamics likens the abortionist to a ball bearing factory in Nazi Germany. When America entered WW2 we were faced with bombing hundreds of factories producing war machines, or bomb just one ball bearing factory for which all of these machines depended.

We bombed the snot out of the ball bearing factory and German production of war materials came to a halt. Tiller’s baby-killing operation is closed because there is no George Tiller to run it. We might thank Tiller’s shooter for that. Troy Newman has tried every legal maneuver to get Tiller thrown in jail or to get his death camp closed. We applaud his efforts, but they have failed to stop Tiller’s bloody hands. I believe that God called Troy Newman and Tiller’s shooter to do what they did. Troy to exhaust all practical and legal means, and Tiller’s shooter to stop him sure.

Troy condemns the shooter for taking Tiller’s life. Troy tells us that Tiller’s medical license was going to be pulled in just two short months! Anyone who has been following this story knows that Tiller was in no danger of losing his practice. Tiller was acquitted of violating Kansas law. Why would the Kansas Medical Board pull his license?

Even if Troy was right, how many babies would Tiller kill in two months? That is how many babies the shooter saved by aborting Tiller.I do not advocate vigilante justice; I believe we need to pursue due process of law whenever possible. But due process of law is not forthcoming, vigilante justice is all the babies have, and vigilante justice is better than no justice at all. It was announced this 9th day of June, 2009, that Tiller’s practice is permanently closed.

Yes, Virginia, sometimes the end does justify the means.

Dan Holman, Army of God 5 Comments [7/31/2017 6:06:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie