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Quote# 34818

I've come to the conclusion that there are mainly two types of so-called atheists.

On believes there is God but is just in so much denial that he is hardened to it and fights to keep convincing himself and everyone else that there is none.

The other certainly believes there is God but is simply lying about lack of belief to deceive on behalf of working for Satan.

So I take what they say about their atheism with a big grain of salt.

FaithOfAbraham, Catholic Answers Forums 72 Comments [2/11/2008 11:41:03 PM]
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Quote# 34885

Many people (liberals, atheists,etc.) does not believe that Adam and Eve were real literal people. They don;t realize that the Bible is literal history of the world.

The Defender, Conservative Voice 69 Comments [2/12/2008 2:37:19 PM]
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Quote# 89029

70 sect members found living underground in Russia

A reclusive sect that literally went underground to stop contact with the outside world kept 27 children in dark and unheated cells, many of them for more than a decade, prosecutors said Wednesday. The children have been freed and the parents charged with child abuse.
Some of the children, aged between 1 and 17, have never seen daylight, health officials said. The sect's 83-year-old founder Faizrakhman Satarov, who declared himself a Muslim prophet in contradiction with the principles of Islam, has also been charged with negligence, Irina Petrova, deputy prosecutor in the provincial capital of Kazan, told The Associated Press.
No members of the sect, who call themselves "muammin" after the Arabic term that means "believers," have been arrested, she said.
The children were discovered last week when police searched the sect grounds as part of a probe into the recent killing of a top Tatarstan Muslim cleric, an attack local officials blame on radical Islamist groups that have mushroomed in the oil-rich, Volga River province.
Satarov, a former top imam in the neighboring province of Bashkortostan, declared his house outside Kazan an independent Islamic state. He ordered some 70 followers to live in cells they dug under the three-story building topped by a small minaret with a tin crescent moon. Only a few sect members were allowed to leave the premises to work as traders at a local market, Russian media reported.
The children have been placed in local hospitals for observation and will temporarily live in an orphanage, pediatrician Tatyana Moroz said in televised remarks.

Faizrakhman Satarov, The Telegraph 26 Comments [8/17/2012 3:05:12 AM]
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Submitted By: OohShiny

Quote# 136453

The word "aborigine" comes quite simply from two Latin words, "ab origine," meaning "from the origin." But origin of what? The origin of human settlement in the Americas? Says who? There is considerable (though confusing and uncertain) evidence that there were people in the Americas, probably from Southeast Asia, or perhaps from several parts of southern Asia, long before the people who now consider themselves "the first." These earlier people were not Mongoloid, unlike our present "aborigines."1

Why should we assume that the Americas were totally uninhabited for hundreds of thousands of years before the present Iroquois etc. were here? Homo sapiens is a very old species, compared to what we know of the past of the people who now claim to be "aborigines." Our present so-called aborigines probably arrived only about 12,000 years ago.

The word "indigenous" is no better, since it means "born in." Well, that would apply to a great many people now in Canada. And "native" means plain "born." Anyone born in Canada is both an indigenous Canadian and a native Canadian.

Another thing to consider is how much land is being re-classified as "native" land. There seems to be more and more as the years go by. One cannot assume that a walk in the countryside is some sort of "inalienable right" anymore. This loss of land is mainly a problem for people not living in urban areas — most White people who live in rural areas assume they can hunt and fish without great restrictions, and for many people such activities are a major source of food. As more and more areas become Indian land, I suspect White people won’t feel so comfortable being there.

In other words, all the usual distinctions between "aboriginals" and "non-aboriginals" are artificial and meaningless. The only meaningful distinction I can think of is that our "aboriginals" were living literally in the Stone Age before the time of Columbus. They do not seem enthusiastic about returning to a technologically less advanced culture, no matter how many evils they may claim to see in the present world. But they are enthusiastic about receiving billions of dollars annually from government sources. And how is it that, in the name of "employment equity," people are so often hired on the basis of some tiny percentage of so-called aboriginal ancestry?

As with so much of present-day government-enforced hiring practices, "employment equity" means little more than "White male removal." The solution is to remove everything that constitutes "aboriginal status." These people should be given full citizenship in the true sense: all the rights — and all the responsibilities. That in turn would give them pride, and it is the lack of pride that now results in such terrible rates of crime, of alcoholism, and of many other social ills.

Peter Goodchild, Eurocanadian 12 Comments [2/11/2018 6:27:03 PM]
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Quote# 34966

[Can non believers do any good? No, says dkkev. In fact, if you are doing noble deeds as a non believer, you are actively sinning!]

Everything you do if you do not believe in God is a sin because you are not doing it for God, but for your own glory, or maybe even another person's glory, but not God's. If you don't love God then you can't glorify him in all that you do. Therefore if an unbeliever gives money to the starving children in Africa it is a sin because he does not believe in God. If a Christian does it, a true Christian, so that they may glorify God in serving in him, etc, etc, in his name. Then it is not a sin.

dkkev, Christian Teen Forum 102 Comments [2/14/2008 8:41:43 PM]
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Quote# 34999

I'm just waiting for Armageddon

I'm waiting for Jesus to destroy America and this entire piece of dung world

When God destroys America and the rest of the world, there will finally be peace on the land

No more evil when Armageddon Comes

No more satanic feminism

No more satanic child support laws that enslave millions of men

Thank you Jesus for the Coming Armageddon

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 69 Comments [2/15/2008 1:04:02 PM]
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Quote# 34799

Yesterday, the first Friday of Lent, I saw my neighbors get home, and out of their minivan they had a few bags labeled 'KFC'. So, they went inside their home, and I saw the light come on in their dining room. The curtains were drawn, but I went into my driveway, then crossed into their driveway, so that I could peek through the gap in their curtains and i got a good view of what was going on. They were clearly chowing down on chicken, with all the fixings, though the chicken was what I was really concerned about, cause they had the youngins there eating too. I was really upset and didn't know what to do. They have a crucifix and statues like those people like to have in their living room, then the next room over they were chomping away on meat. I really don't know what to do at this point. Should I call a local archdioses or something and report them, or is there like a church board that investigates these things? I don't know what to do, and i've asked the good Lord for guidance, but I'm still not certain what He wants me to do. I was thinking when they're not home I should take the statues they have in their backyard and only give them back if they promise not to do it again, but I might get in trouble with the law so I don't know at this point. What would Jesus do?

Prince of Lombards, http://www.city-data.com/forum/ 133 Comments [2/12/2008 4:49:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Matt

Quote# 34866

Originally Posted by Patashu
I'm not assuming that light is constant at all. I explicitly handled cases in which the speed of light had varied in the past. If it was 10 times as fast when supernova 1987A had happened, for example, the ring radius is actually 6.7ly and by our trigonometry the distance is now 1,680,000 light years, which the 10x speed light would travel along in 168,000 years.

Again you miss the point. It was many speeds, and any speed all at the same time, depends on our will, and need, and God's will. It was made to respond to us![example, one star maybe was supposed to shine on earth this year, another one, just as far, maybe was not, so only the light of the one got here!] Why do you think the devil is so jealous and hates mankind so???? We were made to rule the universe with Him. He put us over this creation.
Look at the two witnesses in Rev 11, they have power, like Jesus has power over the earth, and sea, and rain, and etc!!! Jesus calmed the sea, for example. That is the sort of thing that man also was meant to do. We were truly robbed, and sold a horrible false bill of goods, by the enemy of our souls.

dad, Christian Forums 61 Comments [2/12/2008 12:32:15 PM]
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Quote# 34837

[In response to wasnt it charles darwin who actually came up with the idea that there are different races to support his evolutionary theory?]

yes, racism is a by-product of evolution

Buzzardhut, RaptureReady 66 Comments [2/12/2008 1:21:33 PM]
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Submitted By: AnonR

Quote# 136556

What is Richard Brown smoking? Mr. Hafichuk did not say that “creationism should be exempt from the rigors of science.” He said that those teaching evolution should walk the talk, and put up some hard evidence before opening their mouths. There is not one single incontrovertible piece of evidence that supports evolution. NOT ONE. And Brown has the nerve to talk about science? His explanation of thermodynamics is pure deceitfulness. It is common knowledge among scientists, including ones espousing evolution, that there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics, whether in open or closed systems. Honest scientists admit that the organized complexity of biological organisms requires two additional factors besides an open system (sun providing energy). These are: a “program” (information) to direct the growth in organized complexity and a mechanism for storing and converting the incoming energy to maintain life. Evolution has no answer or explanation for the presence of either, the development of which contravenes the second law of thermodynamics. The formation of ice crystals from water does not answer this conundrum. Snowflakes simply represent water’s movement towards equilibrium at a lower energy level. They are not an example of matter forming itself into more organized or complex systems, but are the result of the intrinsic nature of the constituent elements forming repeating structures with minimal complexity and no function. Nobel Prize winner Ilya Prigogine puts it this way: “The point is that in a non-isolated [open] system there exists a possibility for formation of ordered, low-entropy structures at sufficiently low temperatures. This ordering principle is responsible for the appearance of ordered structures such as crystals as well as for the phenomena of phase transitions. Unfortunately this principle cannot explain the formation of biological structures.” Brown has put up a smokescreen to obfuscate the truth. He has employed sheer bravado to cover over the absolute bankrupt and totally unscientific whimsy called evolution (it cannot even be called a theory because it is entirely unprovable). Why the determined doggedness to maintain and promote blatant error? Because Brown, along with all mankind, would rather not answer to his Creator. He wants to continue as a free agent, doing what is right in his own eyes. It is the sheer arrogance of the spirit of rebellion that says to God, “Who are You to tell me what to do? I know better!” Enamored of this ungodly position, Brown becomes the consummate fool, espousing and promoting an idea that for pure ridiculousness has never, and shall never be matched. Man, made in the image of God, insists on being the son of amoeba. How great the fall!

-- Paul Cohen

Victor Hafichuk’s reply to Richard Brown, also sent as a letter to the editor:

Contemplating the controversy of evolution, I was on my lawn one day. I had spread compost on it. Everywhere I looked, I saw organic material until I spotted a fruit sticker that had not broken down in the composting. It was something obviously foreign. I realized that I could distinguish something man-made, of specific and deliberate design, versus what was natural. What person in his or her right mind could declare that the deliberate, descriptive fruit sticker could have evolved from nothing, or even on its own from something? Yet, with the God-given intelligence granted, we have discovered that the natural substance I put on the lawn has biological, intelligent, living organisms and countless design features that put the fruit sticker to shame, though we obtained the materials for making the sticker from that which already existed. I had a scientific experience, but not to be appreciated without the gift of reason. Science has observed and verified God’s creation. True science proves creation everywhere in everything, all the time. However, as monkeys cannot manufacture Lego toys in a lab, not having the reason or intelligence, though granted all the time, components, equipment, and even an enormous amount of guidance, so man who denies his Creator cannot discern the obvious. Without God, he has little reason. Without reason, he is an idiot, truly. Richard Brown dismisses teaching creationism in science class, stating that creationism cannot be substantiated by scientific principles. I may not have made my point amply clear to him, that being that anything unsubstantiated by sound scientific principles should not be permitted in science class. Evolution has not one verifiable fact. It defies all science, not to mention reason, yet its proponents call it “science.” As he has challenged creationists to “put up or shut up,” so I have challenged him to dispense with theory and tell us what sure facts there are to defend the “theory” of evolution. He has not done so. He has used big words, made himself sound like one who understands science, and even creationism, but neither he nor any one else has provided any conclusive proof to defend their ludicrous theories. My point is to address his hypocrisy, point out his sophisticated ignorance, and throw his challenge back to him. You say creationists are without substance. Show us yours. I know I can be as stupid and ignorant as any person, and could believe in evolution. I acknowledge that it is by the sheer grace of God that I can hear, see and understand. For that, I am so thankful, especially when I witness examples of such darkness in thinking as that of credulously entertaining evolution theory.

-- Victor Hafichuk

Click HERE to go to “Exposing Evolutionists.”

Victor Hafichuk & Paul Cohen, The Path of Truth  12 Comments [2/11/2018 12:11:54 AM]
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Quote# 136473

It was an ugly divorce, by my wife's choosing. When she left me in March of 2006, I had a forgiving spirit from the very beginning, starting my Soulwinning.info website in May of 2006 to “overcome evil with good” as the Bible says (Romans 12:21). U.S. sheriffs brought a divorce summons to my workplace in June of 2006. It came as a total surprise shock to me, like getting hit by a Mack truck. I wept uncontrollably for 3 hours. Once she signed the divorce papers, her ungodly attorney went to town destroying my life. I lost my paid home as a result of the divorce. I have been renting an apartment since I lost my home. My ongoing legal expenses reached $64,000, all coming out of my home. It didn't cost my x-wife one single penny, because she obtained a free-probono lawyer. This is how ungodly the courts are today. I am not bitter, I am just stating the facts. I have placed everything into God's hands and have perfect peace in my heart. I chose to LET GO, LET GOD!


I crawled into an independent Baptist church on Guam in November of 2013, and found some friends, so I thought, and started regaining my emotional strength. But because of my King James Bible only views, the Bob Jones camp at Harvest Baptist Church kicked me out in November of 2014. The associate pastor called Dr. Jack Hyles and me “a cult.” The pastors were upset over the excellent book, “NIV: The Antichrist's Bible” by Dr. Al Lacy, which I had given to the senior pastor as a gift. They were also offended by the doctrinally-sound book titled, “I Never Knew You” by Michael P. Bowen, which exposes false prophet Ray Comfort. I didn't realize at the time that the church had invited Ray Comfort in 2007 to speak at their church. So they kicked me out! I have been struggling to find a church family ever since on Guam, unable to do so, trying to get my life back on track, serving God and doing the best that I can on my own. It hasn't been easy. The people whom I had grown close to at Harvest Baptist Church in Watchcare Meetings in their homes, and at church and church events, for one year, and I loved, totally gave up on me and abandoned me when their pastors kicked me out. They just forgot about me completely. It felt like another divorce!

In desperation for fellowship I even contacted that same church earlier this year in March of 2017, all three pastors, humbly requesting permission just to attend their church services (with my promise not to cause any problems), just so I could be around other believers, but three times they denied my sincere request, telling me to go away. They are holding a grudge (James 5:9). It is best, since they don't believe right. I am presently praying and looking for a city to relocate to in the states. This has been a very difficult decision for me. There are literally tens of thousands of places to live in America. I am looking at independent Baptist churches, because that is what I need most, a church family. Lord willing, if and when I find a wife, or decide on a place to move, I will do so with the Lord as my strength. Psalms 27:14, “Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.”

Albeit, due to my neck pain, I am not able to be at all the services, which is why I am on disability. When I went to Harvest, I made myself go to church most of the time, because I wanted to be there, but it was difficult for me. I cannot tell you in words how much my neck pain dominates my life. As I type, the toothache-like pain is horrible, in the bony area of the back of my neck. I so much want to find a wife, as I have lived on my own for 11 long years, but don't want to marry a mean person, so I am being careful. I even signed up for eharmony, which so far hasn't worked out. I guess there aren't many single independent Baptist women out there! I pray daily for God's help and guidance (Philippians 2:13). Clearly, my situation is difficult, and I ask for your prayers. It is easy for people to judge at a distance. I judge no one. My own loss, emotional trauma and sufferings have humbled me and made me a much more understanding, forgiving and loving Christian. I am the biggest sinner I know, and I don't judge anyone.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 20 Comments [2/7/2018 1:32:42 PM]
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Quote# 35130

[In a thread labeled "What you need to know about creation"]
1. Population statistics—If man appeared over one million years ago, the present world population would be thousands of times greater than it actually is. In fact, our entire galaxy could not provide the needed space for so many. The present world population is around 6 billion. Assuming the average life span to be 70 years and the average generation length to be 35 years, then starting with one family, the present world population would result in about 30 doublings. These doublings would carry us back in history from today to around 3500 B.C. This date is suggested by several creationist scientists to mark the time of the flood. Thus, the creation model dovetails beautifully with known world population statistics. But what of the evolutionary model? Dr. Henry Morris writes, “Now, if the first man appeared one million years ago, and these very conservative growth rates applied during that period, the world population would be at present 10 (27,000 zeros following) people. However, no more than 10 (with 100 zeros) people could be crammed into the known universe.”

(Scientific Creationism, Master Books, 1974, p. 154)

Lord Thomas Drake, CyberNations Forums 54 Comments [2/18/2008 5:52:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Hertzyscowicz

Quote# 35055

The Kansas State High School Activities Association said referees reported that Michelle Campbell was preparing to officiate at St. Mary's Academy near Topeka on Feb. 2 when a school official insisted that Campbell could not call the game.

The reason given, according to the referees: Campbell, as a woman, could not be put in a position of authority over boys because of the academy's beliefs.

St Mary's Academy, AOL Sports 49 Comments [2/17/2008 6:17:35 AM]
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Submitted By: somnium

Quote# 136566

Milo and the “Stockholm Syndrome” of Sodom
Posted on February 22, 2017 by Pastor Scott
In the mid-1970s, America was introduced to “Stockholm Syndrome” when 19 year old Berkeley student and heiress Patty Hearst was transformed from kidnap victim to domestic terrorist by identifying with her captors. Stockholm Syndrome is trauma-induced mental enslavement to the person or group causing the trauma, and Hearst has ever since been its poster child. Her identity hijacked, she joined her Simbionese Liberation Army kidnappers and eventually went to jail for crimes she committed voluntarily in that false persona.

In the unfolding spectacle of the Milo Yiannopoulos pederasty scandal, America is being introduced to a far more potent and common form of this phenomenon: Sodom Syndrome. Like millions of boys through the centuries, 14-year old Milo was recruited into homosexuality by an adult homosexual predator. He then justified his molester, “Father Michael,” in his own mind and recently in unwise but candid media comments. Very typically of adult homosexual men who experienced similar recruitment, Milo portrayed Father Michael as a sort-of coming-of-age mentor, and his young teen self as a consensual partner, fully competent to make his own decisions. (Historically, most male leaders of the “gay” movement share this profile).

In response to the scandal, Milo has recast himself as a helpless victim. While this seems cynical, he actually IS a victim to a far greater extent than most people, and even he himself, realize. I believe what Milo experienced at 14 was Sodom Syndrome, and like Patty Hearst to the SLA, his identity was subsumed into the LGBT culture by psycho/sexual trauma, reinforced by associating sexual climax with his predator’s orientation. Its all about brain chemistry and subconscious coping mechanisms, not free choice – at least not at first.

Like Milo I had a bad relationship with my father, and ventured into the world at an early age. An alcoholic from age 12 and a pothead/drug addict from 14 I lived a vagabond/hitchhiker lifestyle that lasted over ten years and spanned the continent. As such I was a ripe target for recruitment by predators and was solicited by “gay” recruiters countless times. To be fair, only rarely did these men attempt force and fortunately none was successful. To be clear, I never experienced same-sex attraction and didn’t succumb to “gay” recruitment, though I don’t believe anyone is immune to Sodom Syndrome.

When I was about 14 or 15, I spent an afternoon smoking pot with a “gay” guy in his 20’s who explained that young people during puberty have a very fluid sexual identity and how easy it had been for him to turn young teen boys into sex partners. I was very non-judgmental in those days, and didn’t think twice about it, nor similar conversations I had with other homosexuals (though few were that forthright). A confirming study I later saw said 25% of young teens suffer same-sex confusion but most grow out of it naturally by the end of adolescence.

After I had surrendered my life to Christ, been delivered from my addictions and started a family of my own, I saw the world in a wholly different light. A nineteen-year old man, who had “come out” as “gay” after being molested seven or eight years earlier, himself molested a four-year-old boy. I was close to both families and watched that child change from sweet and loveable to hyperactive and rage-driven. He never became homosexual himself to my knowledge, but never really recovered either and now in his 40s lives a miserable life of addiction and crime.

Later as my compassion grew for homosexuals, we took in a repentant ex-“gay” who was dying of AIDS. Sonny lived with us for the last year of his life and I was with him when he died. He attributed his homosexuality to being raped at age seven in a YMCA men’s room by a friend of his father. Sonny’s form of Sodom Syndrome compelled him to seek “gay” sex in settings with the strong smell of urine. He never chose to be that way and expressed deep shame in it, but even in his last days in Christ, the pattern burned into his brain by the youthful trauma remained the identity of his flesh while his mind and spirit were freed only through sexual abstinence.

In the earliest days of my ministry I had the pleasure of making friends with Anthony Falzerano, a leader of the ex-“gay” movement. He said the most common denominator in boys who get recruited is a kind-of “father-hunger” due to troubled family relationships, and that this is easily recognized by predators on the prowl because they suffered it themselves. He and other ex-“gay” leaders showed me by example that the cure to homosexual dysfunction is restoration of male normalcy through long-term healthy relationships with fatherly mentors.

My ex-“gay” friend Richard of Portland, OR sought me out in this way after the predator who made him his houseboy at age 12 (his piano teacher) kicked him out and replaced him when he got too old. My fatherly help blessed Richard through some rough times and gave me personal experience in mentoring ex-“gays.” He never went back and is doing well today.

I’m frequently accused by pro-LGBT leftists of being a suppressed homosexual myself because my life’s work has been opposing their agenda. That’s not true of me, but I’m not insulted by the suggestion because I don’t despise homosexuals like they assume. I do this work because I am a Christian saved by grace, trained for and assigned to this work by my Savior. I do it because I recognize that the sin of Sodom is the most destructive force in human civilization, singularly unique in it’s condemnation in the Bible. I do it because I don’t want to see any more young people lose their innate heterosexual identity to the Sodom Syndrome. Make no mistake – the problem is growing like runaway cancer because we’ve allowed it to go mainstream.

Past criticisms notwithstanding, my heart grieves for Milo Yiannopoulos, because I see what I might myself have become under different circumstances and it is hard to watch anyone crash and burn so spectacularly. What Milo really needs is his Father in Heaven, of course, but he also needs a Dad to lead him out of the darkness of perversion back into the light of normalcy. I pray that this crisis will open his life and heart to both. I’m personally willing to help him in that, if he doesn’t have anyone else. I also pray that Milo’s suffering will not be in vain, but truly open America’s eyes to Sodom Syndrome and it’s own sin in pretending – as a way to avoid confronting hard truths and harsh push-back — they’re all just “born that way” and can’t be cured.

Scott Lively, Scott Lively Ministries  8 Comments [2/11/2018 10:51:08 AM]
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Quote# 136578

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PERSECUTION: College Republicans' Patriot Prayer rally disrupted by Alt-left counter-protesters"

(Cut-and-pasted Fox News article follows, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/11/college-republicans-patriot-prayer-rally-disrupted-by-counter-protesters.html)

Lady Checkmate, someone is impersonating you I believe, and if you are not aware, you need to be. My name is abbygirl08, and I've posted on your channel several times. Here is the link to their profile: https://disqus.com/by/GracefulLadyCheckmale/ This is not you, is it? This person is impersonating other channel owners as well - causing much mischief. Please report him/her to Disqus.

Lady Checkmate:
Hi AbbyGirl! Thanks for letting me know. No, that is not me. That's a troll who uses many sock accounts to stalk, harass and persecute Christians. Check this out for more information, when you get a chance (if you'd like): https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-newsnetwork/psa_pending_comments_community_stalker_peewee/
I'm sorry you're having to deal with that, but I support you and will report, ban and block that impersonation account asap (if I haven't already ;).

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 9 Comments [2/11/2018 12:14:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 106637

(part of an article titled Why You Should Emulate Jim Bob Duggar Of “19 Kids And Counting”)

While you might not subscribe to Jim Bob’s religion or want such a large brood, there are lots of reasons to aspire to be like him.

Jim Bob gets as much sex as he wants

Jim Bob has a lot more sex than most guys, especially married ones. In an interview with Today, Michelle Duggar said: “In your marriage there will be times you’re going to be very exhausted. Your hubby comes home after a hard day’s work, you get the baby to bed, and he is going to be looking forward to that time with you.”

Her advice to other women is to “be available. Anyone can fix him lunch, but only one person can meet that physical need of love that he has, and you always need to be available when he calls.”

Granted, not everyone would want to sleep with Michelle Duggar. This is a valid objection. Michelle is a little past her prime (she is pushing 50), but if you make allowances for the 80s fashion and hairstyle, young Michelle was actually attractive.

Others might raise the objection that Jim Bob has limited himself to sleeping with just one woman. This is also a valid objection, but seducing good-looking women takes time and effort, even for alpha predators. And not all guys are irresistible alphas. If you happen to look like Jim Bob, it might take a lot of effort, so Jim Bob’s deal is actually pretty good.

While Jim Bob says he treats his wife like a queen, it still pays off. Michelle takes care of his needs. She has a home cooked meal on the table and cheerfully tends to his brood. There are many other men who treat their wives or girlfriends like queens and get TV dinners and no sex in return.


Jim Bob is having an impact on the world

Most modern day parents abdicate their duties as primary educators of their children to the state and to popular culture. Jim Bob, on the other hand, has done a great job of instilling his values into his nineteen children. Assuming that each of his children has ten children, that will mean that within a few years, Jim Bob will be the patriarch of over 200 people. Few men are fortunate enough to establish that kind of a legacy.

Additionally, Jim Bob takes his role as father seriously. While many modern day dads provide little to no guidance about relationships and marriage, Jim Bob makes a point to teach his children the importance of picking a suitable husband or wife. And by home schooling his children and monitoring Internet and phone access he has managed to prevent the culture from corrupting them.

Additionally Jim Bob’s strict approach successfully prevents his daughters (and sons) from becoming promiscuous. No father, no matter how “progressive,” wants to see his daughters become grist for the serial pump and dump mill, and Jim Bob’s method has been successful so far.

The Duggar girls prove that not all western women are beyond hope. They were taught to cook, clean, and save themselves for marriage. And if they are like their mother, they will never deny their husbands sex. Jackpot.

The Duggar’s way of life is obviously counter-cultural. It might be too extreme for some men, but we can all still learn a little from Jim Bob’s approach.

Michael Sebastian, Return of Kings 33 Comments [2/26/2015 3:43:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 136586

Hell no. I still can't believe people are not making this shit up just for attention. "I was raped 10 years ago by my boyfriend, I'm so traumatized".

Fuck, really? You had sex when you didn't wanted sex, with your favorite fuck buddy no less, and now you are traumatized for life? Did he ripped you vagina or something? Prostitutes have sex with unattractive men every day, and somehow they are fine, but you, stupid attention whore, are traumatized for life? Go kill yourself.

User8423, Reddit 11 Comments [2/11/2018 11:23:19 PM]
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Quote# 136572

Gay activists contend there are only seven scriptures that address homosexuality in the Bible and therefore homosexual behavior is insignificant in scripture. Gay activists also contend that theologians have misinterpreted the seven scriptures. The seven main scriptures are the Genesis account of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19), the Mosaic Law in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, the letter by Jude verse 7, and the Apostle Paul’s letters in Romans 1:26-7, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
Gay activists like to point out that none of these scripture references are in the first four books of the New Testament that record the direct teachings of Jesus. The gay argument is that since Jesus never mentioned homosexual behavior, it should not be considered immoral. That argument lacks any merit when one realizes that Jesus never mentioned bestiality either (humans having sexual relations with animals – another aberrant sexual orientation). Using the same gay logic would imply that a human having sex with an animal is not immoral behavior. Bestiality is listed as a sin in the Mosaic Law right after male homosexuality in Leviticus 18:23. Male homosexual behavior and bestiality are the only immoral sexual behaviors listed in Leviticus 18 that include the adjectives of “detestable” and “perversion.” The gay insignificant argument also fails the test on the bestiality comparison because there are even less scriptures that address humans having sex with animals.
Leviticus 18:22 explicitly states, “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman: that is detestable.” (NIV) Gay theology argues that the type of homosexual behavior condemned in Leviticus does not include homosexuals in loving and consensual relationships. This gay argument is also without merit when one studies the content of Leviticus 18. Most of Leviticus 18 condemns various close relative and incestuous heterosexual relationships. The author of Leviticus condemns fourteen heterosexual relationships between close relatives and no homosexual incestuous relationships. The obvious reason Leviticus 18 does not list homosexual close relative relationships is because verse 22 condemns all homosexual behavior.
Other arguments put forth by gay theology are that the word for homosexual has been misinterpreted in the passages of the Apostle Paul’s letters; God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah not because homosexual behavior was prevalent in those communities, but because its citizens were inhospitable and sought to rape the male visitors; and the close friendships between Jonathon and David in the Old Testament as well as Jesus and the Apostle John in the New Testament were actually homosexual relationships. The key to all these arguments is still found in Leviticus 18. If Leviticus 18 condemns all homosexual behavior, which I believe it clearly does, these other gay arguments have no foundation for their devious assertions.
Once homosexual behavior is established biblically as sexual immorality along with adultery, close family heterosexual relationships, and bestiality, a host of other biblical scriptures apply to homosexual behavior. The Apostles gave four firm requirements to the non-Jewish Christians in the early church, “to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.” (Acts 15:20 NIV) The Apostle Paul wrote, “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.” (1 Corinthians 6:18 NIV) In his letter to the Ephesians Paul wrote, “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.” (Ephesians 5:3 NIV) There are many other New Testament verses with similar instructions to avoid sexual immorality.


I was discussing these issues on homosexuality with an independent filmmaker in Houston, when she said, “I don’t care if people engage in homosexual behavior in their private quarters.” I was taken back a bit, because I knew I did care and didn’t care at the same time. I was also unclear what she implied by her statement. I had to think that statement through, and out of that thought process came a good example of how Christians need to be prepared to intelligently address issues of homosexuality.
My confusion and a lot of the confusion on issues of homosexuality stem from the fact that in America’s structured society there are different spheres of authority where behavior is subject to scrutiny. I find three distinct spheres where society views homosexual behavior from different perspectives – a medical sphere, a civil law sphere, and a theological or moral sphere. As one who has studied all three of these spheres, I tend to view homosexual issues differently depending on which sphere of authority they pertain to.
To illustrate this concept I am going to give my viewpoints on the filmmakers comment from these three structural spheres. From a medical viewpoint I do not care if two or three or four people engage in consensual homosexual behavior in private quarters, although I have apprehension that they may harm themselves or others. Some of the people engaging in that behavior may have unhealed emotional wounds from their same-sex parent and the behavior might be an attempt to repair that wound. Some may be carrying a sexually transmitted disease. I am not their medical doctor, their psychologist, their psychiatrist, or their close relative, so medically it is none of my business, but as a Christian I should have enough compassion to not want to see these individuals get AIDS or continue in behavior that will deepen their emotional wounds.
From a civil law viewpoint consensual homosexual sex in private quarters is not an infraction of civil law, so from that viewpoint I have no reason to care if people engage in that type of behavior. Sodomy used to be illegal. When it was illegal one could have been concerned that this consensual behavior was breaking the law, and even now some believe that sodomy, like prostitution, should be against the law. On another level as a Christian I care greatly if the civil law tells school children that consensual homosexual relationships are as desirable as heterosexual relationships and equivalent to marriage between one man and one woman, because those types of laws intentionally oppose my Christian moral beliefs.
From a theological viewpoint Christians should be concerned for people who engage in consensual homosexual behavior, because according to biblical scripture it will keep them out of heaven. The Apostle Paul reiterates that warning in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. In direct contrast to the warning is the desire of God to not want “anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9) Followers of God should not want anyone to perish either. For those who are not familiar with this Christian terminology and message, one inherits eternal life (heaven) with Jesus upon repentance of their sins, turning away from sinful behavior, and choosing to follow Jesus. When one refuses to repent of sinful behavior and disregard God’s promise through Jesus, they are destined to perish (hell). Jesus talked about heaven and hell many times referring to hell as a place “where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” To the Christian either heaven or hell represent each individuals eternal destiny.
The simple statement by the filmmaker had many interpretations and implications. For example, a moral liberal would state that they do not care if people engage in consensual homosexual sex in private quarters because they believe consensual homosexual sex is moral behavior. A libertarian could make the same statement and not care if the behavior was moral or immoral, because their main principle is personal freedom. A conservative could make the same statement also and in a mean spirited way imply that they don’t care if that person gets AIDS from their sexual behavior, because they are responsible for their own actions. A Christian could also make the same statement in a callous way and imply that they don’t care if people who engage in consensual homosexual behavior go to hell or get AIDS, because they deserve “the due penalty for their perversion.” (Romans 1:27)
As a Christian I do not identify with any of the four interpretations presented of the filmmakers statement. From my Christian viewpoint, although I agree American society gives people the civil right to engage in consensual homosexual sex in private places, I do care that people engage in this behavior, because ultimately I do not want them to go to hell or to harm themselves or to harm others.

Thomas Coy, Ex Gay Truth 7 Comments [2/11/2018 11:04:52 AM]
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Quote# 89049

["What is so wrong with forgiveness?"]

It suggests (in the scenes) forgiveness without repentance. It opens the door and promotes sin. Opens the door to atheism…waters down hell, denies hell, opens the door to the growth of atheism…Jesus talked more about hell than heaven… .

Forgiving adulteress woman … The basic error is it teaches people can do what they want and they will be forgiven even if they don’t repent. (The forgiveness scene of the adulterous) is historical nonsense. They didn’t stone women. They strangled them. Liberals love it because they use it to argue against capital punishment.


We respect the original intent (of Bible authors). We are pealing away the political bias. We are purifying the Bible.

Andy Schlafly, gazette.com 56 Comments [8/19/2012 10:48:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 135761

Most Muslims are based

Just think about it for a second. Arranged marriages, cucks and fags being hanged, woman must be loyal and submissive to husband, no degeneracy, etc.

European Christendom did not differ a lot from Islamism up until the cucked Enlightenment period that changed everything. It was backed by Jews like those in the Rothschild family (especially during the French Rev).

Most of the so-called "Islamic" terrorists are just CIA/Zionist hacks willing to destroy Israel's and Rothschild's enemies. Don't believe the cucked media and the gynocentric government.

Many Muslims cooperated with based Natsocs in their fight against Judaism. I'm sure a lot of them would be against the current Syrian refugee crisis and the multicultural experiment set up by kikes who pretend to be their ally (only to destabilize Western societies).

White Shariah is needed now. Sieg HEIL my brothers.

Blackpill101, incels.me 16 Comments [1/5/2018 5:22:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 34932

Sadly true Chinalily. Christian friends seem more into talking about their planned vacations, what movies they rented, their new car, their jobs, their favorite places to eat, etc. sigh.

The same thing goes with "hobbies".
People ask me, what hobbies do you enjoy?"
I tell them reading and studying the Word of God.

They say, "yeah but, what ELSE do you like to do?"
I tell them, "well, talking about the Word of God. Sharing the Word of God. Oh, and I love praise and worship music too. "

They think I lead an extremely boring life. LOL!

Glory, Rapture Ready 114 Comments [2/13/2008 10:28:27 PM]
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Quote# 35003

We can see light from stars that are over 6,000 light years away, even though the universe was created 6,000 years ago because time passes much quicker in empty space where there is less gravity than on earth. This is because the rate of time is inversely proportional to gravity. The more gravity, the lower the rate. the less gravity the higher the rate, meaning the faster that time changes...

[Watch the video. It contains such pearls as "between galaxies speed travels enormously fast"]

JesusDisciple777, YouTube 59 Comments [2/15/2008 12:22:28 PM]
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Submitted By: LazyJones

Quote# 35005

The Bible is not a complete work, it is comprised of many individual accounts, each of which can be checked and tested. You actually can rely on the individual books to verify other books in the Bible.

Digit, Christian Forums 44 Comments [2/15/2008 1:06:11 PM]
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Quote# 35012

What evidence to the contrary????? There is plenty of evidence that man and dinosaur walked side my side. Usually when they find dinosaur bones they usually find human bones with it, often INSIDE it cause the dinosaur ate them. Archeologists always remove the human remains first when they find a dinosaur so they can continue the LIE. Dinosaurs became extinct right around the time we first started writing, thats why you don't find dinosaurs in history books except the bible which was written by god. It's likely they were killed by a lack of global warming, if only they had held on just a little bit longer!

SirMildredPierce, GodTube.com 92 Comments [2/15/2008 4:18:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Sarah

Quote# 136558

Malaysian actor ‘shocked’ by marriage proposals for his 12-year-old daughter

KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 9 — When actor Norman Hakim shared a photograph of his 12-year-old daughter Marissa Dania on social media, the last thing he expected was an inbox full of marriage proposals.

Astonished, the Gerak Khas and Dia Bidadariku actor took to social media to address overly-eager netizens who were keen to wed his pre-teen daughter.

“I hear this little girl @marissadania_ is going viral. Viral for what reason? What is certain is a father’s DM (direct message) that’s full of solid risikan,” he wrote on Instagram.

In the Malay wedding tradition, merisik (asking ceremony) is the pre-wedding custom of asking a woman’s family for her hand in marriage.

“I’d like to tell you that my daughter turns 13 in July. Still a long way to go.”

In the post, which has been viewed over 430,000 times, Norman advised netizens to prioritise their responsibility to God and their parents before exploring marriage.

“In the words of mama @abby_abadi112, prioritise what is important,” he said, quoting Marissa’s mother and his ex-wife Abby Abadi.

Norman was married to Abby from 2002 to 2008 and they share three children together.

He is now married to actress Memey Suhaiza with whom he shares two children.

The father of five also requested that netizens leave positive comments and pray only for good things on Marissa’s Instagram which has 204,000 followers.

Several hours after Norman’s long post, Marissa shared a picture of herself in Istanbul with the caption, “Don’t take in what others say.”

This brings to light the controversial issue of child marriage in the country.

Child marriages are largely frowned upon in Malaysian society but do occur here as the country’s Islamic judicial system — which runs alongside the civil courts — has laws that allow a Muslim girl below the age of 16 to marry, though only with the consent of the Shariah Court. Permission is granted on a case-by-case basis.

This provision under Shariah law however is at odds with Section 376 of the Penal Code, which criminalises sex with a minor as statutory rape.

Under civil law, sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 16 is a crime, whether or not she consents to it.

Civil laws, particularly the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act — which applies to non-Muslims — allows for marriage between couples aged 18 and above, but exemptions are also made for girls aged 16 and above, whereupon the consent of the state’s chief minister or mentri besar, must be obtained first.

Read more at http://www.themalaymailonline.com/showbiz/article/actor-norman-hakim-says-shocked-after-receiving-marriage-proposals-for-his#hKDkgKiDGcZ4KkgE.99

Various Muslims, The Malay Mail Online 13 Comments [2/11/2018 12:16:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Bedhead
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