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Quote# 52509

Should I kick my gay son out of the house?

I have a 13 year old son that used to be a great kid. Unfortunately, I think some liberal teachers must've got to him in school and I recently caught him kissing another boy.

The Bible is pretty clear about this sort of thing. My son threatens the salvation of everybody in the house. I don't wan't to kick him out, but I also don't want to lose my chance at eternal paradise just to keep him around.

Is there a compassionate way of telling my son that I never want to see him again because I want to go to heaven? Or would compassion be a sin, afterall, he is a sinner. In the Bible, Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at God's utter destruction of Sodom. I don't want to turn into a pillar of salt or go to hell.

Robert M, Yahoo! Answers 86 Comments [11/18/2008 10:14:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Jax

Quote# 140576

There's more evidence of Obama's foreign birth than of Russia collusion.

Aaron, Baptistboard 9 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:11 AM]
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Quote# 140881

Gays are seen holding hands and kissing everywhere in public these days, especially amongst youth. It is vile and a shame unto our nation! God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. If God had created Adam and Steve there would be no human race, because they'd be no children. Today, gays are paying fertility clinics to find surrogate mothers, or lesbians are adopting.

All of this whacko insanity will result in some very strange laws and bizarre outcomes in the decades to follow—men paying alimony to men, lesbians celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary, taking the DNA from two men and producing a child in a lab, et cetera! Breakthrough raises possibility of genetic children for same-sex couples!!! Say it isn't so, please! Can you imagine? What happens after two gay men divorce and they have brought a genetic creature into the world sharing their DNA? Where will this madness of playing God lead?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 11 Comments [10/15/2018 7:56:46 AM]
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Quote# 140587

I respect the right of other people to choose their own beliefs; but I also have a Biblical obligation as a born-again Christian to expose lies, falsehoods and evil to warn others. Judaism is a Satanic religion rooted in rejection of Jesus as the Christ. The Talmud is a sexually degenerate manuscript, which debases Gentile women, children and motherhood. From beginning to end, THE BIG BANG THEORY sitcom is saturated with filthy talk, dirty-mindedness and sexual licentiousness (lewd and lascivious). It is evil.

Due to the evils of Zionism that has infected our churches, Judaism is not preached against as it should be. I love Jewish people and exposing Judaism doesn't mean that I don't love Jews, any more than exposing Islam would mean that I don't love Arabs. It's sadly ironic to me that the Jews and Arabs, who both descended from their biological father Abraham, deny the Lord instead of believing Him as did Abraham (Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:1-6). Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven!

“THE BIG BANG THEORY” program is filthy, disgusting and saturated with sexual perversion of every sort. The show has endured for many seasons now. In July of 2015, The Big Bang Theory is as sexually perverted as ever!!! Sheldon is extremely effeminate with homosexual traits, clearly. They're a bunch of girly-boy sissies! I noticed in the January 6, 2013 news online that the CBS show was the highest rated program on TV this week. According to Wikipedia, the show's actors receive $350,000 PER EPISODE!!![1] In a recent episode titled, "The Egg Salad Equivalency," dozens of sexually perverted comments are made throughout the sitcom, including:

"A woman is like an egg salad sandwich on a warm Texas day... full of eggs and only appealing for a short time." ~The Big Bang Theory, highest rated CBS sitcom


Isn't that terrible? Women have been degraded in American culture to the level of animals, commodities. Why don't women complain to the television networks, to the newsmedia and speak out against this garbage online? Why don't more Christians expose the evil television networks? I often feel like John the Baptist, crying aloud alone in cyberspace against the wickedness of this generation. I encourage others to speak out online. Perhaps get your own website. I knew nothing about making a website when I started. I learned as I went, determined to do what it took. There are a lot of places where you can post free webpages, but most of them are filtered from the search engines. You're much better off having your own website for $59 a year.

Let's all speak out against the filth and perversion of this generation. Let's preach the truth of God's Word, and expose all the falsehoods and lies online, in churches and in society. Why does everyone hate the Bible-preacher instead? The Talmud teaches a disparaging view of women (Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile [Non-Jewish] girls are in a state of filth [niddah] from birth.). So it shouldn't be surprising that Jewish produced TV sitcoms degrade women as dogs. In the same aforementioned episode of the show, Rajesh says with an India accent, "I give her a shoulder to cry on and then I give it to her good" (a sexual innuendo). The same episode makes reference to: menstrual cycle, calls an African-American woman 'brown sugar,' speaks of sexual desirability, a six-breasted sex-robot, sniffing around your goods, take your pants off, inappropriate sexual advance, STD's, just to list a few. THE BIG BANG THEORY is a sinful show produced by unsaved heathens, sexual degenerates, who are bold Christ-rejecters.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 6 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:21 AM]
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Quote# 140698

Peter: Where does Jesus emphasise that? He said what the Kingdom of God was about repeatedly, including in luke 4 and the beatitudes. It includes social justice at its heart. You just reject what he said.

Martin: The Beatitudes have nothing to do with social justice, they are a description of the Christian.

Peter: I hope you've told Jesus that.

Martin: Peter
He knows, He spoke the words.

Peter: Where did he speak the words you just have? The beatitudes say nothing of the sort! Yet again you simply make up his words when you don't like what he said

Martin: I always knew your reading comprehension was poor:
And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:
Blessed are the POOR IN SPIRIT, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
(Matthew 5:2-12 [ESV])
This is about spiritual things, not physical, hence He says 'poor in spirit' and speaks of righteousness. It isn't about those with little money.

Martin, Premier 3 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:10 AM]
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Quote# 140937

Hi, Sweet Pea…I do things the way I do them because it is at the behest of Almighty God and his much loved son, Jesus Christ, and like the watchman who is equally guilty if he doesn’t notify those he is watching over, of approaching dangers, when something sinister is approaching, I don’t want to share in the guilt of the antichrist.

Every night now, at sunset, and for a number of months, there has been a huge red tint radiating across that area of sky…it lasts for about half an hour and it is causing quite a fuss on YouTube…but, true to form, it can only be seen by those who aren’t locked into the antichrist philosophy. Trentvoyager recognises its existence, whilst Seb can’t see it, on a night when it was particularly spectacular…check it out for yourself, and know that God’s Judgment is near.

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Two Gifts From God…(part 31)

It is a commonly known fact that the human body has two sides which have semi-independent responsibilities over each other. There is the LHS and the RHS and in a stroke one side can fail completely.
This can happen suddenly and without warning and is usually attributable to a blood-clot lodged in the brain. But why is the blood clotting and is this condition as sudden as it appears??

Not according to God’s righteous science…It has been building up for some time. From our early youth we have been squeezing our brains to get a greater response from it. We frown and squeeze it, thus hindering the natural circulation throughout the many journals that are a part of its make-up. At an early age we start having head-aches and migraines and slowly but surely we are closing down one side of the brain, as surely as if it was by the sudden attack of a blood clot, but this is slow and spreads over a number of years whilst all the glands, muscles, and thinking abilities, associated with a full blown stroke, are there, hidden from view, disguised in a numbness, and which requires urgent attention before the blood thickens up and begins to congeal.

As always, that urgent attention is captured within the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ…His teaching is so accurate that we can apply maximum faith to it knowing that if we are beyond repair we will also have a share in the resurrection, and this is a great comforter too.

I call this a ‘silent stroke’…but it is much more far-reaching than is listed here.

…(to be continued)

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 13 Comments [10/15/2018 8:04:36 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 140930

Calling all so called victims – Your actions have repercussions.
by gryphyn3






One thing I hear about each day, is case after case of men who have been accused of rape or sexual assault in the papers. I barely read those articles anymore, simply due to the fact, they are all the same. The person accused had plied the poor victim with booze or drugs, or had met the poor victim at a party, got drunk together, and then the poor victim went home with the accused and then well, rape.

If you have been a victim of rape, it can be traumatic. We all understand this. I have had two attempts of rape happen to me.

Being a victim doesn’t mean you are blameless. It means something bad has happened to you. It doesn’t mean you are not responsible, nor does it mean you are one hundred percent blameless.

I’ll use the current Cosby case as an example. Here is a woman who admitted under oath, that she went over to Cosby’s Hotel Room. of her own free will. He offered her drinks and she accepted willingly. He offered her drugs. She took voluntarily.

I’m stopping there.

This is why I don’t think is much of a victim. Well, sorry, rather she is a victim of her own actions. She accepted the booze, and drugs of her own free will. He didn’t force her to drink and do the drugs. He didn’t hold a gun to her head.

Does this excuse Cosby if he did it? No it doesn’t, but it does give a clear idea of what the situation was at that meeting. And shows the woman was using poor judgement, and was at least a victim of her own stupidity.

Now I’ll give more detail to my two experiences.
I’ll start off by stating (I’ve mentioned in other blogs), that I’m gay. In my younger days I used to go to bathhouses. These were and are places were gay men of all ages go to have sex. They had reached their height in the Nineties when gays were not yet accepted and there was still a danger to go to a gay bar. It was also a great place for those who were still in the closet to go and have sex.

Now on this night, I had been out drinking at a dance club. I had gone to the bathhouse (because I didn’t find anyone at the bar to go home with), and got a room. In bathhouses when you rent a room it’s this tiny room with this cheaply made bed in it, with a vinyl covered mattress and thin cotton sheet. Everyone who goes to a bathhouse, can either rent a locker or a room, and you are given a towel to wear and that’s it. Basically your naked in a towel and wander around until you find someone you want to have sex with. Or, like me you can rent a room and wait for the guy to come to you. This doesn’t mean you can’t be choosy. In fact many people who go to these places are. We all have our types.

Anyway, I was laying on the bed with the towel barely covering me, when this really, really drunk guy showed up at my open door. I got a bad feeling so I told him no thank you, but I wasn’t interested (this is the politest way there to let the person know to go away). The guy however, had different ideas and came in and shut the door. He proceeded to try to throw my legs above his shoulders and penetrate me. I used both feet on his chest and threw him off, which he flew backwards into the wall. That wasn’t enough and he again tried. And again I threw him off. Banging his head hard on the wall. After a third try he left my room.

I didn’t call the police and even though I was a victim of an attempted rape, it was still my fault. I knew this at the time and to this day I don’t blame that guy. I put myself in that position and I knowingly ran that risk. This is the risk you take when you go and and sexually tease strangers. It’s not pretty but it’s true. When you sexually tease people, you run the risk of pushing the wrong button on someone that will set them off.

The second time, that I consider attempted rape, was when I lived in BC. I lived in this gay hotel and was in the lounge drinking and chatting with the cute bartender. I was happily drinking and at the end of his shift he offered to take me to his room. I drunkenly agreed. We got up to his room and I promptly passed out. With my jeans and underwear on. The next thing I remember was waking up and I was naked with him inside me. I had no recollection of even going up to his room or half the night at the bar. So I freaked out. Pushed him off em and accused him angrily of raping me. He was horrified. He apologized profusely and even sent me flowers the next day. I realized after that he wasn’t at fault. I was. I had accepted his offer to go to his room and that was implied consent. I was the one who made the mistake of 1. Accepting free drinks from him, 2. Going up to his room in that state. So I in no way put the full blame on him.

Now fast forward to today and you get you Social Justice Warriors who think that a victim has zero responsibility in their actions and I am telling you that you are full of it. You are not blameless. What you wear is important, your actions before hand are important and how you interact with a person are important. If you tease and tease someone, and then say “No no, no!” you are risking pushing that button on that person who is not mentally stable. If you accept drinks from strange men and then go home with them, expect they want to have sexual intercourse with you.

If you accept drinks from strangers, if you go home with strangers, then you run the risk of rape or sexual assault. There is a good chance you will be going home with someone decent. Don’t get me wrong there, but if you’re going home with a new guy every week or every few days, then the odds are pretty good that you will end up being a statistic.

Now, here is the advice. You are in control of your life. That means you have to accept responsibility for your actions, and as such, take precautions. Learn self-defense, carry pepper spray. Make sure a friend knows where you are going etc.

This is not taking any responsibility of a crime off the criminal. What this does is help stop you from becoming a victim and the crime from happening in the first place.

It’s like a car. You don’t go parking your car in a crime riddled neighborhood and leave the doors wide open and the keys in the ignition. If you did that and your car gets stolen, were you asking for it? Yes. The person who stole the car is still a criminal but you can bet your sweet ass you asked for it, by doing that.

Same with going home with strange men, teasing them, and then denying them sex. Most men will put up with that and respect your choice, but go through enough men and the odds are you will find one who won’t respect your saying No No.

I really hope this gets passed on and the message gets through to at least some people who believe that no victim is at fault for their actions because as I have just shown, that isn’t correct.


Gryphyn3, Freedoms And truths 10 Comments [10/15/2018 8:02:10 AM]
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Quote# 140872

(=AKA; How out of touch Jonathan Van Maren is=)

Here’s why even Christians can’t stand Matt Walsh

If Ben Shapiro is the gentleman boxer of conservative commentary, his Daily Wire colleague Matt Walsh is definitely a doomsday prophet in sackcloth and ashes. Each new essay-length column fairly drips with depressing details of why, exactly, our culture is broken, our Christianity is shallow, and our countries are tearing themselves apart. Despite this, Walsh has hundreds of thousands of readers, and for the same reason Shapiro is so popular: He’s generally right.

Reading Matt Walsh’s essays often is, as my friend once said about Peter Hitchens’ weekly column, like a thunder-shower on a day when you had plans outdoors. His writing, his social media comments, and even his videos seem to show someone who is deeply burdened about the state of the culture, and his demeanour often appears melancholic. I bumped into Walsh only once, when I was doing an interview for EWTN right after him, and his somber look as he strode out of the studio-area seemed to confirm his online persona.

What I really appreciate about Matt Walsh is that he decides to target topics that he knows will enrage his own readership. He could stick to columns condemning abortion, or prosperity preachers, or even sexual immorality, and his base would largely love it. But Walsh goes after the sacred cow of many churches: Their entertainment. And as he has often said himself, nothing enrages modern Christians more than questioning what they’ve decided to watch or do in their spare time.

Walsh has written columns on why horror movies are repulsive and the morbid fascination with films where human beings are horribly tortured, dismembered, and sliced up in scenes that are often perversely sexually charged. Predictably, there was backlash—because when you read a description of horror movies in black and white on the page, suddenly it seems rather hard to justify. Suddenly the idea of watching people scream and writhe in horrible pain for the purpose of entertainment seems—well, pretty screwed up.

Walsh also went after violent video games, again asking why Christians find it acceptable to spend time simulating the killing of other people, sometimes even through stabbing, hacking, and strangulation. Again, the backlash online was immediate—and far louder and more vicious than if Walsh had penned a column condemning the hypocrisy of the Left. The same happened when Walsh asked why the pagan origins of yoga didn’t bother anyone, and when he demanded to know how Christians could justify the savage sexual violence and openly pornographic nature of the HBO show Game of Thrones, which—believe it or not—many Christians insist is a perfectly acceptable thing to watch.

I thought of Walsh’s work when I read a short blog post recently by the popular Christian blogger Tim Challies, who has also written frequently on the inability of modern church-goers to handle any criticism of their entertainment choices without instant anger and defensiveness. It was titled “Are You Godly Enough to Watch Smut?” and addressed the simple fact that Christians today are willing to defend entertainment that Christians a mere century—or even fifty years ago—would without question find appalling and wicked in the extreme. Challies also noted that the TV show Stranger Thingswas very popular in his circles—but that when he tried to watch it, he was confronted with scenes his conscience would not allow: "To create Stranger Things a group of people filmed an actual eighteen-year-old girl actually taking off her shirt and actually simulating losing her virginity to an actual teenaged boy. They did that for our pleasure, for our entertainment, so we could see it. What on this side of hell could justify me, a nearly forty-year-old man, watching a production that involves an eighteen-year-old girl—someone’s daughter, someone’s future wife—disrobing and writhing her way through simulated sex with a manipulative, hormone-driven boyfriend?"

One of the reasons Walsh and often Challies are so controversial is that they puncture the hypocrisy of a modern Christianity that condemns porn, unless it is in the movies and TV shows that they like. Violence is wrong, but pretending to gruesomely kill people is okay, and kicking back with a bowl of popcorn to watch people get dismembered and horribly tormented is okay, too. And the backlash that these writers receive to columns making these very obvious points is hugely indicative: Modern Christians get angrier about the prospect of giving up their TV shows and their movies than they do about giving up their religious liberty.

Jonathan Van Maren, LifeSite 4 Comments [10/15/2018 7:56:33 AM]
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Quote# 140811

I'm sure that some of my critics say, “You're always talking about Brother Hyles, Brother Hyles, Brother Hyles.” Yes Sir, and I aim to keep promoting him, because He followed Jesus!!! Dr. Hyles started pastoring when he was 19-years-old and faithfully pastored churches for 55-years, until the Lord took him home at age 74 in 2001. Thank God for Brother Hyles!!! The apostle Paul said in 1st Corinthians 11:1, “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.” We all follow someone. As human beings we all have heroes, and that's not bad if you have the right heroes.

It is tragic that so many youth follow some carnal athletes like Michael Jordan or Walter Payton, who've never done anything with their life except play ball. I'm not against sports, but I am against idolizing athletes instead of men of God. It won't matter one tiny bit in eternity how many baskets Michael Jordan made. It won't matter how many yards Walter Payton ran, or how many touchdowns he made throughout his carrier. Dr. Hyles talks about this subject in his awesome MP3 sermon, “It Just Doesn't Make Sense.” Walter Payton is now in eternity. Payton was a Baptist, which doesn't necessarily mean that he was born-again, but I think there's a very good chance that he was a genuine Christian. Walter was an incredible athlete . . .

One of the strongest and most talented men in football, Walter Payton could bench-press 390 pounds, leg-press more than 700 pounds, throw a football 60 yards, punt it 70 yards, kick 45-yard field goals, and walk the width of the field on his hands. It was this phenomenal combination of power and control that allowed Payton to play in every game except one during his 13 years of National Football League (NFL) competition.

SOURCE: http://www.answers.com/topic/walter-payton


How many souls did Walter Payton try to win to Christ? What did He do for the New Testament Church and Jesus Christ? God created us all “FOR HIS PLEASURE” (Revelation 4:11). I'm not criticizing Mr. Payton, but I cannot help but wonder if he's happy with the life that he lived while on earth? Ecclesiastes 12:13, “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” I know that the people who despise and criticize my ministry's website won't feel that way when they enter into eternity and find out that it's all true!!! I'm on the Lord's side!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 6 Comments [10/15/2018 7:55:29 AM]
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Quote# 52322

Can you imagine what will happen when we disapear??? The chaoes! I think it will happen when we implode....what a good time for it....we won't be missed right away....I heard that when we are Raptured....it would be like "mini atomic bombs" going off....due to the transformation during the Rapture, causing earthquakes, weather changes, accidents and etc....will everything collapsing....who's going to notice???

God's Lamb, Rapture Forums 50 Comments [11/17/2008 6:14:14 PM]
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Quote# 52440

You just want to be able to adopt these children so you can warp their minds into accepting immoral behavior. Gays probably just want to have them to molest because pedophiles and homosexuals have a lot in common. Both are deranged mother fuckers living in denial of their? obsessive sexual disorder. Go back in the fucking closet where you belong. The people have spoken and nobody wants you around. Face it assholes, the majority of people out there believes you are fucked up in the head.

nododon, YouTube 42 Comments [11/17/2008 8:01:34 PM]
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Quote# 52484

Atheists are test tube babies. They were man-made, all science. Nothing spiritual about the impregnation, so maybe no capable spirituality to be explored.

DebsWeThePeopleBeckoning, Yahoo Answers 57 Comments [11/17/2008 9:07:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Voice of Logic

Quote# 140934

(In response to a meme about Trump praising Robert E. Lee....)

This meme isn’t limited to the hyper partisan Occupy Democrats. In an embarrassing display of journalism, major media outlets from NBC, to CNN, to the Washington Post all ran headlines proclaiming “Trump called Robert E. Lee a great general”. Without context, the implication is “there Trump goes again, praising white supremacists”. With context, the headlines are highly misleading and OD’s assertion is outright false.
In the comments is a screenshot of the fuller context of Trump’s remarks, make sure to read it. The speech was clearly praising General Grant, not Lee! He was speaking in Ohio, after all, the birthplace of Grant. In a rambling historical account, which only Trump could give, he recounted how Lincoln ended up choosing Grant, despite his drinking problem, because none of his other generals knew how to win. The “incredible” accolade clearly referred to Grant, not Lee, and he called Lee a great general as a foil to praise Grant.
But, calling Lee a great general shouldn’t be controversial anyway. He was, objectively, a great general. That’s why the Union wanted him on their side. Acknowledging his battle prowess does not condone slavery anymore than acknowledging OJ Simpson was a great football player condones murder. Since Occupy seems so horrified at a president calling Robert E. Lee great, let’s see what some other presidents and historical figures said.
-Franklin Roosevelt said this in dedicating a monument to Lee in 1936: “I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.” [1]
-Winston Churchill once said, “Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war.”[2]
-President Truman personally visited Lee's statue at Gettysburg and wrote this to his daughter, “I stood on the spot where General Robert E. Lee stood while the famous and immortal Pickett made his charge…I picked two little flowers from the foot of the Virginia Monument which stands on the spot where Lee stood and I am sending them to you. They will remind you of how a great man takes a terrible defeat…Lee didn’t blame anybody. He accepted the responsibility…”[3]
-Of the 4 portraits in President Eisenhower's office, one was Lee's. He remarked, “General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history."[4]
-JFK said, "As a New Englander, I recognize that the South is still the land of Washington, who made our Nation – of Jefferson, who shaped its direction – and of Robert E. Lee who, after gallant failure, urged those who had followed him in bravery to reunite America in purpose and courage.”[5]
-LBJ used Lee's name in support of civil rights legislation, "If we are to heal our history and make this Nation whole, prosperity must know no Mason-Dixon line and opportunity must know no color line. Robert E. Lee, a great son of the South, a great leader of the South–and I assume no modern day leader would question him or challenge him–Robert E. Lee counseled us well when he told us to cast off our animosities, and raise our sons to be Americans.”[6]
-Jimmy Carter recently came out against removal of confederate landmarks in the south. As president, he said this in his eulogy to the Americans killed in the Iran hostage crisis, “This very land once belonged to General Robert E. Lee. Like these eight men, he was a soldier whose affection for his home and family called him to a life of service that often meant hardship, loneliness, and long separation from those he loved and even from the Nation which he most loved."[7]
-President Reagan said this, “Robert E. Lee, this southerner who criticized secession and called slavery a great moral wrong, would become himself an American legend; yet a man who thought-though he rode off into myth and glory, would suffer cruelly in his own time. After the dissolution of his cause, he would work to bind up the Nation’s wounds"[8]
-As Arkansas governor, Bill Clinton signed legislation combining Martin Luther King day with Robert E. Lee day.[9]
[1]http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=15303
[2]http://www.vahistorical.org/…/virginia-histor…/lee-and-grant
[3]https://www.trumanlibrary.org/…/lar…/folder1/1935julytxt.htm
[4]https://www.neh.gov/…/how-did-robert-e-lee-become-american-…
[5]http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=74076
[6]http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=26585
[7]http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=33388
[8]http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=40134
[9]http://www.npr.org/…/arkansas-to-split-its-holidays-for-mar…

The Meme Policeman, Facebook 10 Comments [10/15/2018 8:04:10 AM]
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Quote# 140733

He Is the Winning Prize

There is a place that we can arrive at in our walk with God that the Bible calls The Prize. The prize that Paul spoke of is Jesus—just Jesus. As you study these Scriptures in Philippians, you will notice that Paul initially talks about counting all things that he had gained as a loss so that he could win Christ. Then he talks about pressing toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God. Prizes are to be reached for; you press on toward them, and you win them. The prize he spoke of winning in this context was Jesus.

He Is the Reward

Winning An Intimacy With Jesus On The Highest Level Possible For All Eternity
 
That I may win Christ (Philippians 3:8).

He is our reward and prize that we win after all life’s accomplishments are over. He’s the Reward. This is the same thing the Lord told Abraham, “I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward” (Gen. 15:1). This refers to winning the Lord in a special, personal relationship. These passages refer to knowing Him on the highest level of closeness. When you have reached this level with God, He will say to you “You have not just sought me and found me, but you have pursued me and given everything up that is valuable and dear to you so that you can have me. And because of this sacrifice, you have won this personal level of intimacy with me.” This means that you have been found worthy to know Him intimately.

Winning Jesus

The Holy Spirit (through Paul) said that in order to attain this level of relationship with Him, we must not be distracted by our past, but should reach toward the things in our future. The highest calling we have is to press toward knowing Him. He said that the mark before us that we press toward and look forward to is the highest calling in life and is expressed in His words, “The high calling of God.” We can know Jesus on this excellent and highest level by giving up everything that means something to us so that we gain Him. Paul said that he did this in order “to know Him” (see Phil 3:10). “To know Him” implies being close to Him, and not just knowing Him on any level but also being the closest you can to Him through gaining the excellency of the knowledge about Him!

David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus 2 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140645

Folks, do we or do we not have a perfect Holy Bible today? YES, WE DO, IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE!!! I find no fault in the King James Bible, and neither did Brother Hyles...

I Find No Fault In This Man! (MP3, Dr. Hyles, “Nobody Can Withstand The Attack Of A Critic!”)

The big problem is that we DON'T have those original autographs available today. All we have are translations of the originals. So either God is an impotent God, or He is a liar, or we DO have a perfect Bible today!!! But an even bigger problem is that Satan has introduced an entirely NEW Greek text, that was intentionally corrupted to attack the deity of Jesus. This Alexandrian text was popularized in 1881 by two reprobate, unsaved, Anglican ministers named Brooke Westcott and Fenton Hort. It is upon the work of these two Bozo clowns that EVERY modern Bible version is based, either in part or whole. Satan is behind the modern Bible revisions. The biggest problem in the churches today is complacency, indifference and tolerance of the Devil's Bible versions.

Kindly, First Baptist Church of Hammond is as guilty as anyone in this critical area. Why are they silent? Sadly, the churches nowadays are more interested in paying staff member's salaries than they are taking a stand for THE TRUTH! Dr. Hyles was right when he said that professed Christians don't want to suffer reproach for the name of Jesus. And by the way, stay away from that “Yeshua” garbage that is creeping into the churches. The Savior's precious name is JESUS!!! Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, sweetest name I know, fills my every longing, keeps me singing as I go!!! Dr. Hyles was right, today's churches don't want to be outside the gate with Jesus! Bless God, I'm just a sinful worm saved by God's wondrous grace!!! I AM JUST A VOICE!!! But I am a voice, glory to God!

David J. Stewart, Soulwinning.info 5 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:40 AM]
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Quote# 140615

"Neue Heimat, fremdes Land - Flüchtlinge in Deutschland" isn't about pitiable people with ugly destinies, that has mishit in a way to seek protection at the shore of humanity and welfare islands, no this action and propaganda broadcast is in truth completely unconcealed publicity for an industry of billions, that Google, Apple, Microsoft, Siemens and how they all are called can take relaxed in they bad and that will become very soon in this country the only remaining: The migrationindustry.

Original German:
“Neue Heimat, fremdes Land – Flüchtlinge in Deutschland” handelt nämlich keineswegs von bedauernswerten Menschen mit garstigen Schicksalen, die es schutzsuchenderweise an die Gestade der Humanitäts- und Wohlstandsinseln verschlagen hat, nein, diese Agitprop-Sendung ist in Wahrheit völlig unverhohlene Werbung für eine Billionen schwere Industrie, die Google, Apple, Microsoft, Siemens und wie sie alle heißen locker in die Tasche stecken kann und die dem geschundenen Land sehr bald als die einzige übrigbleiben wird: Die Migrationsindustrie.


Akif Pirinçci, Der Kleine Akif 3 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:33 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140913

Johnny25343: With regard to the Bile being a perfect book. Here's the thing. The Bible was inspired, NOT DICTATED. As a result a book even an inspired one written by sinful man is no more perfect and inerrant than the man in the moon. My faith is not in the Bible because I know that it has contradictions. My faith rather is in the person who the book is about. Now He believed in the Scriptures and because of Him I believe the Bible, contradictions and all. Sadly so many people get to the point to where they lose faith because ministers refuse to be intellectually honest about the Bible and its contradictions. My faith is in the one the Bible continuously speaks of.

Leroy Lewis: J , there are no contradictions whatsoever in the Bible. There may very well be certain things written and recorded that you do not understand and you would not be alone in that. But there are no contradictions. God is steadfast in all things. What you don't understand today with the help of The Holy Spirit you will understand tomorrow, He will teach you , Precept upon Precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little there a little. Very often we children do not fully understand what our father's mean when they tell us certain things, and then a few hours or a few days later , the penny drops, so to speak.

Martin: Inspired means that God caused what was written to be written, a better translation is breathed out, as if the very words of God were breathed out onto the page.
You don't know the person the Bible was written about except through the pages of the Bible. BTW, there are no contradictions in the Bible.

Leroy Lewis & Martin, Premier 2 Comments [10/15/2018 7:57:10 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140737

The greatest honor that Jesus could receive in Heaven was to sit at the right hand of the father and be ever close at His side. This was Christ’s focus and goal while He lived on Earth. He wanted to be close to the Father, and not just earn a position of authority with Him. This is the difference between satan and Jesus. Lucifer wanted a higher position of authority, and he thought it robbery to be equal with God, so he strived to overthrow God to get it. Lucifer didn’t just want the right-hand seat next to God, which resulted in being close to Him, but instead he wanted God’s throne and position of authority itself. You need to understand that satan knew about this right-hand seat, and he bypassed it because He wanted God’s throne and place (see Isa. 14:13-14). Jesus was in the beginning with God, and He saw lucifer fall from Heaven like lightning. This also had to mean that lucifer saw Him and the glory that Jesus Himself spoke of having with the Father in the beginning (see John 17:5; 23-24).
His Greatest Goal: The Right-Hand Seat of

Intimacy and Power

Jesus also had this right-hand position of glory in the beginning when He was with God. Jesus did not focus on His exaltation, power, authority, or the Kingdom that was given to Him more than He focused on the intimacy He had with God. All those things were secondary to Him compared to His close and intimate seat next to God. Even though Jesus gained a new Kingdom and received glory, He never speaks about these things being His focus. His focus was to be near God

The Seat Versus the Throne

What made Jesus great in God’s eyes is that He was humble enough to choose the seat versus the throne, and because of this God exalted Jesus to sit with Him on His Throne. Jesus didn’t teach us what He did not first live Himself. He told us in parabolic form to always choose the low seat when we are invited to sit among many seats.
 
When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him…. But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted (Luke 14:8,10-11).

When I first got saved I thought that Jesus was just teaching us how we are to live. I never thought about how this might apply to His own life. But no, it was more than this! He was teaching us how He lived and wanted us to follow His example. He made the seat His focus and not God’s throne. This right-hand seat is the lowest seat, but it is also the highest seat. God the Father allowed Jesus to sit with Him in His throne.

David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus 2 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 39936

The homosexual agenda has infested American culture, corrupting our nation. From the Food Network to Home and Garden TV, homosexuals are being featured to maintain political correctness. The tragic result is that society is being desensitized to the evils of homosexuality. Gay-marriage is rebellion and sin against God. No one is born gay, because God doesn't make mistakes.

No doubt, it's just a matter of time until gay-marriage becomes allowable under federal law. God will not bless a nation that honors homosexual marriages. Gay marriage is a grim act of rebellion against the God of the Bible. Sin always undermines a nation. America is damned of God because of our nation's slaughter of nearly 50,000,000 human beings by abortion, because of our nation's warmongering and bloodshed of innocent people in other countries, and for our tolerance and promotion of homosexual marriages. We are a wicked nation of booze, gambling, lewd dancing, and materialism. Television is rightfully called "hellivision." We've even renamed one of our biggest cities "SIN CITY" to spite God. Yet we hypocritically sing... "God Bless America!" No Sir! ... God Damn America! We certainly deserve to be punished severely for our wickedness.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 92 Comments [5/26/2008 3:03:25 AM]
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Quote# 140915

Debunking the myth of ‘back-alley’ abortions

August 5, 2016 (LiveActionNews) — The abortion industry claims that if abortion was outlawed, it would mean a return to the “coat hanger” or “back-alley” abortions. They argue that abortions would no longer be the “safe” procedures they are now, and women would continue having them at much the same rate. However, research shows that these arguments are false.

Former abortionist Dr. Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of NARAL, discussed how the abortion industry purposely fabricated the number of illegal abortions prior to Roe v. Wade.

Nathanson admitted that fictional polls were created in order to convince the public of the need for legal abortion. He said abortion activists sold Americans the lie that thousands of women were dying annually from back-alley abortions, when the actual figure was in the hundreds.

Knowing that if a true poll were taken, we would be soundly defeated, we simply fabricated the results of fictional polls. We announced to the media that we had taken polls and that 60% of Americans were in favor of permissive abortion. This is the tactic of the self-fulfilling lie. Few people care to be in the minority.

We aroused enough sympathy to sell our program of permissive abortion by fabricating the number of illegal abortions done annually in the U.S. The actual figure was approaching 100,000 but the figure we gave to the media repeatedly was 1,000,000. Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200 – 250 annually. The figure constantly fed to the media was 10,000.

These false figures took root in the consciousness of Americans convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law. Another myth we fed to the public through the media was that legalizing abortion would only mean that the abortions taking place illegally would then be done legally. In fact, of course, abortion is now being used as a primary method of birth control in the U.S. and the annual number of abortions has increased by 1500% since legalization.


Nathanson’s admissions reveal that the abortion lobby generated a false media hysteria that led to the Roe v. Wade decision. Under the guise of protecting women, activists pushed abortion into the American culture.

But although a procedure may be “legal,” it does not mean it is safe or sanitary. The term “back-alley” is another abortion lobby misnomer that masks the violence that every abortion procedure inflicts. Abortion always destroys the life of an innocent human being, and it is an invasive procedure that poses many health risks to the woman.

In addition, many abortion facilities still hold the “back-alley” conditions reminiscent to eras before Roe. Abortion centers today — such as ones in New York City — are inspected less than tanning salons. Over the years, the public has learned of facilities like Kermit Gosnell’s “house of horrors,” which contained dirty equipment, jars of baby body parts, a freezer full of aborted children, blood-stained blankets, and “a flea-infested cat… wandering through the facility.”

While many contend Gosnell is an outlier, the American Center for Law and Justice reported in 2013 that 362 babies had been born alive in the last decade as a result of botched abortions. Stories continue to emerge of botched abortions in legal abortion facilities.

The notion that regulating abortion will cause women to seek an illegal “back-alley” procedure is a myth. A study in 2012 reveals that outlawing abortion in Chile not only saved children, but advanced women’s health. Chile was a prime nation to study this effect because before the country banned “therapeutic” abortions in 1989, abortion was largely legal.

The study, led by epidemiologist Elard S. Koch from the University of Chile, showed that restrictive abortion laws were good for women’s health.

Similar to restrictions on alcohol or tobacco, restrictive abortion laws acted to dissuade. The study concluded that even with these restrictions, Chile has one of the lowest abortion-related maternal mortality rates in the world.

These data suggest that over time, restrictive laws may have a restraining effect on the practice of abortion and promote its decrease. In fact, Chile exhibits today one of the lowest abortion-related maternal deaths in the world, with a 92.3% decrease since 1989 and a 99.1% accumulated decrease over 50 years.

The study also found that when combined with public health services for women, abortion restrictions are actually effective at saving lives. It also affirmed that making abortion illegal does not increase maternal deaths.

While the abortion industry asserts that abortion regulations or bans would result in a back-alley abortion surge, the facts simply say the opposite.

Susan Michelle, Life Site News 9 Comments [10/14/2018 2:20:41 PM]
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Quote# 140902

The Pope is more concerned with life on earth now and temporary than the soon judgement at the 2nd coming and the ETERNAL life that follows. He’s no different than the Godless LEFT.

He’s full of advice and little gospel. Like most of Christianity today. 8 were saved in Noah’s day. Probably a good example of the % of those that will be saved these days upon the return of Christ. Because they had no love for truth.

vespa300, Free Republic 9 Comments [10/13/2018 8:46:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140899

A Norwegian woman has been sentenced to imprisonment for one year and four months in Dubai after she reported a rape.

- The woman reported a rape to the police in Dubai, but was not thought of this. We have been told that she herself was instead sentenced to one year and four months. The judicial system here has obviously taken the information she has given them and meant that she is guilty of anything, says Gisle Meling, a priest in the Seamen's Church in Dubai.





Meh. You live by the laws of the land you inhabit. So if anything, she is the only to blame. Should have known better.

Nerevar, MMO Champion 14 Comments [10/13/2018 8:44:28 PM]
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Quote# 140905

The death rate among muslims in this country cannot ‘skyrocket’ enough to suit me. I’m sure a lot of people out there will agree with me.

chulai1968, Bare Naked Islam 12 Comments [10/13/2018 8:47:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140914

Martin: David
Of course you have doctrine and they're based on your belief in taking away from one group of people to give to another. You force the Bible into that mould and claim to be a Christian.. That is not Christianity, this is socialism.
Salvation is just the same after Jesus' death and resurrection as it was before. Those events made no difference.

DavidS: I don't have a doctrine as such, I just try to follow Jesus example. Jesus manifesto is set out clearly in Luke 4:
“The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
That's clearly a social justice manifesto. I hate to be the one to tell you this but Jesus wasn't a social conservative who would support 'free market' capitalism based on greed and self-interest. He would support a system that puts the needs of the poor and needy before the wants of the wealthy elite.
The context in which Jesus was speaking does make a difference. Things were different before he fulfilled his mission and different afterwards, otherwise there is no point to his sacrifice.

Martin: David
No, that isn't social justice, it is salvation to those poor in spirit, to those enslaved by their sin, to those spiritually blinded and oppressed.

DavidS: It is to all those as well as the physically and financially poor, the outcast, the refugee, the immigrant, the disabled, the vulnerable, the disabled and those on the fringes.

Martin: No it isn't.

DavidS: It is. Sorry that your evil, sadistic god doesn't see it that way, but that is how the true God who is love, sees it.

Martin: David
The God I worship is just and merciful, what you worship is not a god.

DavidS: So you've denounced Calvinism then?

Martin: Why would I renounce biblical doctrine?

DavidS: Calvinism isn't Biblical.
You said "The God I worship is just and merciful" - the Calvinist God is neither just or merciful, he is a sadistic monster.

Martin: Is a judge a sadistic monster because he judges fairly and applies the law so that the criminal pays the penalty?
You understand neither Calvinism nor the Bible.

DavidS: I understand both. A god who creates billions of lives just to send them to hell is a sadistic monster with no love.

Martin: David
They go to Hell because they choose to, for their sin. Don't blame God for that. As always, you have no understanding of Christianity.

DavidS: According to Calvinism they go to hell because of predestination and because God doesn't want to save them.
I understand Christianity very well, it's about love, mercy and grace. Not judgement and punishment.

Martin: David
They go to Hell because of their sin. Judgement and punishment are at the heart of Christianity. You can't have mercy without them.

DavidS: Mercy triumphs over judgment.
"They go to Hell because of their sin" - that isn't Calvinism. Calvinism says they go to Hell because they're not part of God's hand-picked 'elect', which makes God a sadistic monster.

Martin: David
Yes that is Calvinism. You are an ignorant fool who will not be taught.

Martin, Premier 7 Comments [10/14/2018 2:09:34 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140891

hol·o·caust
[ hol- uh-kawst, hoh-l uh-]

NOUN
1. a great or complete devastation or destruction, especially by fire.
2. a sacrifice completely consumed by fire; burnt offering.
3. (usually initial capital letter) the systematic mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during World War II (usually preceded by the).
4. any mass slaughter or reckless destruction of life.

At the very least, definition 4 applies to abortion. At 15,000 executions of innocents per week in America, that is not altogether different from the kill rate of Jews under Hitler, with the exception that ours has been going on for 45 years, much longer. Abortion is a holocaust.

Of course, there are always MANY differencies between any two human rights atrocities. No two atrocities are the same, because humans "evolve" in our depravity. But, that does not mean that there are not many similarities too. At the heart of most human rights atrocities is the dehumanization of certain humans who are decidedly human (on science). Certainly, that dehumanization is the main thrust in pro-abortion arguments.

One of my close friends is in her 90's and still very active pro-life.

She grew up in Nazi Germany, and as a teen, she made the mistake of speaking up for the Jews. As a result, she was sent to two labor camps, then finally a "psychiatric" hospital, where those who disagreed with da fuehrer, often disappeared. Fortunately, she was liberated by the US Army before the Nazis could "experiment" on her.

She believes that abortion is very similar to the Holocaust, even though there are obviously many differences.

For more comparisons and contrasts between abortion and the Holocaust:

https://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/abortion-the-hidden-holocaust

https://www.abortionfacts.com/facts/14

There is also an interesting DIRECT connection between the Nuremberg Trials and abortion - I thank Josefarma for directing me to this article long ago:

https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1047&context=lusol_fac_pubs

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Secular Pro-Life Perspectives 14 Comments [10/13/2018 8:25:49 PM]
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