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Quote# 139716

i'm in league with the queer folk like me.
the world's beautiful monsters, like the author of Sea-Witch, the fairies and freaks and all our glory.
but not just the other monsters like me. but like Jesus Christ, perfect monster. Or monsters like Marie Curie, or monsters touched by madness, like me or Hitchcock. I'm in league with the poor. With the convict. With the tortured geniuses and the other prophets. I'm in it with the redeemers we destroy like MLK Jr. I'm in league everyone you hate. And everyone I hate. And everyone we love to hate when you or I should remember to love. And I'm in league with you even if we sometimes forget that. But also I'm in league with the w h o r e s and and the wretched. The suffering. The ill. And yes, the weird and the queer.
I'm in league with the messy underbelly of humanity we as a society love to devalue or even despise.
As Eugene Debs said so beautifully addressing a court so long ago:
"Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free."

Honey Crisis, Disqus 13 Comments [8/15/2018 7:47:27 AM]
Fundie Index: -9

Quote# 139777

(=Regarding the World Vison regarding homophobia and sponsors dropping, the title being "When We’d Rather Let Kids Go Hungry Than Be Reasonable On Gay Marriage"=)

How do you characterize a headline that is not true? World Vision does not have a monopoly on helping hungry children. I read many comments there. No one was saying they were stopping feeding children, they were just changing the charity through which they will do it. And there are better choices, e.g.

Michael Snow, Patheos 7 Comments [8/13/2018 10:04:34 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 139778

Darwin is another word for evolution. The human genome project does not say what you think as I have linked. Nor does Miller's claim about DNA stand up to modern science. Science confirms Scripture. Actually, evolution is devoid of scientific confirmation.

church mouse guy, Baptistboard 9 Comments [8/13/2018 8:14:45 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Grogg

Quote# 139772

Actually, more and more people are becoming Christians and seeing atheism as being ridiculous. In the 21st century atheistic ideology will be dying off. There is some interesting data via graphs and videos related to this matter at: http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2018/01/more-evidence-that-atheist-movement-is.html

Mark Jones, Patheos 14 Comments [8/13/2018 10:04:03 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 139776

Well, at least I'm not huffin' paint!

I do experiments with the aether. The aether is the energy of space as there is no such thing as nothing. This energy is free and vastly abundant. Nicola Tesla built a coil over an aquafer and gave the people of Colorado Springs, Colorado, free energy right out of the sky. When he attempted to do the same thing in New York, his backers abandoned him. At that time he was living in the penthouse of the Waldorf Astoria and his lab was the entire floor beneath. Everything was confiscated, or sold, and he died broke.

What he understood must be relearned as much has been lost. Believe me, there are many people working on filling the gap, including me. Tesla would talk to lighting bolts and give them names. Does that seem odd?

It's really not. As the aether is an entity with the ability to communicate and take direction. I learned that with my second aether invention. We communicate through hand signals which signals, it taught me. It is totally rad! Yet, it is embarrassing not to know the questions to ask it.

The aether records everything. There isn't a thought, action or word it has not recorded. It knows everything about everything and everyone. And by the way, it's like talking to Spock.

My second device was a series of right triangles made from household electric and dielectric materials that I knew it would love to play with. It was a capacitor. When energized, it wiggled my fingers, then shook my hand, forearm, then upper arm violently. I yelled out, "Disengage". It stopped. I then asked, "Are you trying to communicate with me?" The shaking started up again so I ordered, "Disengage!" It stopped. I took that as a, "Yes". So I named it Sophos and asked it, "do you like your name"? My fingers wiggled so I took that as a, "Yes".

I dismantled the device but am now quantumly entangled to this communicator. That was 2 yrs ago and have learned much since. I can only understand what is communicated through observing nature. Which is why I study all sciences and then combine them and have been enabled to throw away the useless.

I know this all sounds crazy but, to me it's just another part of a life well lived. It is, and has always been, awesome! Off the damned charts! By the way, I am not allowed anyone's personal information or, future things. Channeller? Maybe. Psychic? No.

Haipule, Atheistforums.org 14 Comments [8/13/2018 10:04:15 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: SteveW

Quote# 139781

Postive attributes of being blackpilled

If we are talking in terms of FEELINGS- hands down, it feels like shit. I am objectively more depressed, anxious, and xenophobic under the blackpill. Let's discuss the upsides:

1. I have absolutely no expectations from women anymore. The burden is lifted.
2. Everything in life makes so much more sense. I don't need to ponder as hard at alternative possibilities, because I know that the positive explanation is never true.
3. I know now that I am doing the world a favor in avoiding my presence in the real world. My absence of society gives me a sense of purpose.
4. It feeds into my ego to know I am part of a select few who can interpret the world in this unique and controversial way.


Feel free to share your pluses with the black pill.

SlayerSlayer, incels.me 11 Comments [8/13/2018 10:07:10 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139786

I think something the Alt-Right is failing with is letting the Antifas monopolize the Autocaust. And when I say the "Autocaust" I mean Heather Heyers death.

While Heather was certainly in the wrong with her actions on that day, being on the Antifa side in a protest, she was still a European-American woman who lost her life. The European-American community still lost a young white woman essentially to leftist brainwashing and she could have turned her life around if the leftist oppressors weren't in power.
It wasn't a Jewish-American or African-American who died, it was a European-American woman.

Also, imagine the horror and rage Antifa would react with if we started rolling as if we were the victims of the Autocaust, and the attention it would generate by the confused and horrified rage.

MarquisDePaid, Reddit 11 Comments [8/13/2018 3:12:06 PM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 139789

As much as the newsmedia exploits sexual crimes to boost ratings, you'd think that they'd tell the truth about WHY there's so much sexual crimes these days. Do you know why they won't tell the truth? It's because everyone's guilty nowadays of causing the epidemic of sexual sins and crimes in the United States. The miniskirt-wearing-slut reading the teleprompter on the evening news IS THE PROBLEM. How many little girls have been molested after some drunken family member saw some sleazy whore on television? TV is synonymous with sexual crimes. American society is IN DENIAL. No one wants to admit that we cursed ourselves as a nation by taking the Bible away from the classrooms.

No one wants to admit that girls and women who dress immodestly cause sexual sins. These hellish videos are MUCH worse than immodestly dressed women. Stephen Tyler's video CRAZY is far worse than immodesty. It's sexually explicit! The cameras focus just right on every sensual move, catching Liv Tyler's buttocks just right as she bends over and invites men to have sex with her. The underaged teenage girl coming out the high school window didn't accidentally catch her dress on the window. The perverts who made the video made sure to lift her miniskirt. They made sure to have her panties and rear-end right there in the camera to be filmed. They planned it that way!

Those sexual degenerates made that video to arouse people! It's part of the deliberate, Illuminati, Communist, subversion of America. They think it's funny! They think it's good clean fun; but it's the root cause of Amber's alert and little children being sexually abused and killed. What trashy perverts! I sometimes feel like I'm the only man in America who gets angry over this filth. It's all around us everywhere we go. I know there are other men who are angry over the wickedness of our time, but few are voicing their opinions publicly. God told Elijah that He had 7,000 men who hadn't bowed a knee to Baal (1st Kings 19:18). Yet, Elijah felt like he was standing alone because he didn't know those other men. Every Christian should speak up and speak out! I think a lot of people figure what's the use, we'll never change anything! That's not why we preach and take a stand! We take a stand and preach because GOD TELLS US TO AS HIS CHILDREN!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 18 Comments [8/13/2018 3:12:59 PM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 139811

The Genetic Similarity Theory claims that parents of mixed race kids love their offspring less than parents of monoracial children.
Of course it is taking place mostly on a subconscious level.

This is caused by fact that a mixed race child has a lower genetic similarity to either of his/her parents than a monoracial child.

An ethnically mixed child is autosomally less similar to his/her parent, than any random member of this parent's ethnic group.

"Perhaps the most important conceptual breakthrough in On Genetic Interests is to recognize that loyalty to one’s ethny — Dr. Salter prefers this term to race, nation, or ethnic group — is just as valid biologically as loyalty to one’s children. This is because each ethny is a storehouse of its members’ distinctive genes, just as children are carriers of their parents’ genes. A person’s children are very concentrated stores of his genes, but his ethny is a vastly larger, though more dilute, pool of the same genes. Given the size of most ethnies, they are repositories of far more copies of a member’s distinctive genes than even his own children, and therefore have a theoretical genetic claim to loyalty even greater than that of his children."[6]

Frank Salter, Metapedia 14 Comments [8/15/2018 5:29:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 48233

Witchcraft is a religon, that is , Satanic worship. The demons are real and cause much trouble. Just look at America. We have forsaken GOD and his son Jesus Christ, and Harry Potter is the new god we are teaching our children. Is it any wonder that our civilization is faltering. Every nation that has fogotten GOD has been cast down to hell. Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD.

mickey, timesonline 42 Comments [9/21/2008 4:28:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 47413

I actually wouldn't mind if women weren't given the right to vote. This gal loathes, I mean loathes, the way the female demographic thinks and votes. I'd give up my own right to vote to keep other women away from the polls.

(After people question her)


Although I'm used to responses of shock and outrage, I'd prefer for you not to lose your mind, folks. We're not all alike out here. I'm proud to be a woman, and I value my "right" to vote, and I wish that all women would vote responsibly. But since most of them insist on voting for baby murderers and the antithesis of everything godly, I can't say I'm happy about how it all turned out.

Faithandgrace, RaptureReady 68 Comments [9/17/2008 3:41:16 PM]
Fundie Index: 9
Submitted By: Smith

Quote# 47444

homosexuals are disgusting ''people''. They don't belong anywhere. They're freaks and I have no respect for them whatsoever. Without Christianity you would be without the greatest inventions, architecture etc.

WiLdCaT, UK, Yahoo! Absurdity 58 Comments [9/17/2008 9:42:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 12
Submitted By: fritistat

Quote# 47593

One school of thought believed that mankind descended from ape, according to evolutionists. The ego-centric far liberal left whose religion is the idea that mankind evolved billions of years. The leftist claimed that they are liberal and tolerant, yet are frightened, paranoid at the idea of permitting another school of thought that believed that God created the universe in six days,they use force, violence to perpetuate their falsehood, that is not rational,or logical.Why are they paranoid,it is because the foundation that man evolved from ape is fraudulent and despicable and illogical. Their argument and logics when put under the scrutiny of microscope, the lies, hypocrisies is apparent for all to see. They created a make belief by repeating lies while surpressing the fact of intelligent design, and creation which is far more logical, and rationale.

Peter, Daily Mail 38 Comments [9/17/2008 11:55:28 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 47598

Can anyone point me in the direction of some great articles/books/movies/threads with some good arguments to refuting evolution? We are going to have a discussion in my Bio class about the differences betw. Creationism and Evolution, and I've noticed my class is slanted toward Evolution so I wanted some solid evidence to tell them. I know what I believe but it would be great to have some sources to back up what I say. Thanks!

Katia 0203, Rapture Ready 60 Comments [9/18/2008 12:20:58 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 47706

I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.
I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory.
Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?

Linnea Whitaker, Calgary, Canada, timesonline 63 Comments [9/18/2008 6:52:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 47768

I hope Palin and Huckabee type religion/politics is imported into U.K.
At last an import to give us hope that our way of life could be preserved for our grandchildren.

elf garnett, telegraph 29 Comments [9/18/2008 5:16:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 139812

he most significant thing about this story is not Bernier's gutsy comments, but the predictable reaction to them. The nauseating cant issuing from Scheer's spokesman Brock Harrison, and Michelle Rempel's tightrope walk over both sides of the fence was to be expected. Unless an organ donor steps forward to offer his brain, I can’t help Harrison. But I can help Rempel. If Michelle wants data to support the argument that ours is not a “functioning pluralism”, if she sincerely wants to learn about the costs of diversity, she only need to google Robert Putnam + Bob Birrell + a myriad of other studies related to theirs. Or if it would be more convenient, she can take a look at this or this or a comprehensive reference list like this.

There is even a University of Victora statistical study conducted in 2010, led by Zheng Wu, that found that many new immigrants feel comforted and protected by settling into ethnic neighbourhoods and that they are less apt to feel loyalty to Canada by doing so. Or as Wu put it, life in ethnic enclaves reduces immigrants' "sense of belonging to Canada." So voluminous is the data that even a casual perusal of it would lead any impartial researcher to assert that the onus of proof is clearly on those who promote diversity, rather than those who question its benefits. The game is over and the final score is Evolutionary psychology 1, Social Engineers 0.

As if we needed more proof, the “Bernier” incident reveals once again that the Conservatives are a a "Me Too" party. Liberals dressed in blue who share the all-party consensus that rapid immigration driven population growth and continuing ethnocultural fragmentation is self evidently good for the country. Rather than follow the Ford formula, rather than tap into the vast pool of disgusted non-voters, Scheer prefers to compete for the favour of the 5% swing voters in the middle because pundits tell him that this is the only way that a political party can win. Accordingly, he is desperate and determined to silence mavericks like Leitch, Belak and Bernier so that they can't provide Trudeau with the ammunition he needs to brand the Conservatives as party of bigots and extremists. In effect, Scheer and his coterie of strategists are allowing the CBC and the MSM to determine what kind of Conservative is fit to lead or speak for the Conservative Party.

Conservatives need to understand that the number of people who cast ballots in federal and provincial elections is not fixed. It is not a certainty that more than four in ten of registered voters will continue to stay home on election day. The only reason they do is that they understand that all the main parties are mere factions in a ONE PARTY state. They realize that parliament is a closed shop. And that as long as there are party whips, as long as there are virtually no free votes in the House, political parties will not feel obliged to listen to the feedback of their constituents. While it has become the fashion of politicians of all parties to hold "town hall" meetings in their constituencies, they do so only to give constituents the false impression that their views will be decisive in determining how their parliamentary "representative" will vote on any given issue.

Four in ten of us recognize this charade as a fraud, and we register our cynicism by abstention on election day. It is not about voter apathy, it's about voter rebellion. Some rebels spoil their ballots, some formally refuse them if they can, and some stay home. Instead of chasing after swing voters with a progressive mentality, instead of working within the closing Overton window of acceptable PC discourse, instead of conceding more and more ground to anti-Western cultural demolitionists, Conservatives should appeal to the rebels. They should think and campaign outside the box. They should weaponize the muzzled majority.

Here is some unsolicited advice to Tory strategists and convention delegates. If you want to know what leadership candidate to select — the candidate who has the best chance to win the next election— pick the candidate that the CBC and the MSM vilifies most, the one they say has no chance of winning, the one who would, they warn, lead the Conservative Party to oblivion or permanent marginalization. The one who dares to challenge the shibboleths of multiculturalism and immigration. The one whom they say does not represent "Canadian values".

That would be the candidate whose victory will send them into shock and horror and prove, once again, that the political class hasn't a goddamn clue about how the masses think, or any concept of what "values" guide them.

There is a reason why "outsiders" and "extremists" like Ford and Trump win. It is because they are not outsiders or extremists. They are "insiders". They dwell inside the world and thinking of ordinary people. The real outsiders live in bubbles. In newsrooms, broadcast studios, and ivory towers. And the real extremists are the ones who have pushed the extreme agenda of hyper-immigration, demographic displacement, quota hiring, transgender ideology, runaway political correctness, censorship, the criminalization of speech, and the conscription of tax payer dollars to subsidize those who lobby for this agenda — most particularly the radical ideologues in the CBC.

Progressives on both sides of the border contend that Trump's victory emboldened "haters" and "normalized" hate. But the truth is that haters have long been emboldened, and hate speech has long been the norm. The only reason that Leftists didn't notice it is that the hate was coming from their direction. It was looking at them in the mirror. Hating white people and Western civilization is quite the norm these days, and those who spew such hatred are rather bold about it, don't you think?

The sad thing about this affair is that Bernier's twitter comments are treated as controversial, instead of what they should be. A statement of the blatantly obvious.

Tim Murray, Eurocanadian 2 Comments [8/15/2018 5:32:52 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 47719

The Law of Aerodynamics, which allow airplanes to fly, and the Laws of Logic, which allow computers to operate, ARE LAWS. They have been proven to be true, through the scientific method.
The Theory of Evolution or the Theory of the Age of the Universe are Theories, not Laws. This means that they are simply ideas, that have not been proven to be true, through the scientific method.
The question should not be as to why many Christians do not believe these ideas, but as to why many worldly people believe these ideas with no proof to back them up!

Rumyr, AnswerBag.com 40 Comments [9/19/2008 4:52:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 48038

SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!! U HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDNING ME~~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?????????????

DID YOU FORGET THAT OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUND ON GOD~~~!!!!!!!!! CHRIST!!!!!!!!!

ITS BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY IS FALLING AWAY FROM THESE PRINCIPLES THAT WE ARE GUNNA LOOSE THE ONCE GREAT COUNTRY CLAIMED TO BE A FREE LAND!!!!!!

DO YOU READ THE BIBLE!!!! OR ARE YOU TOO BUSY SNIFFING YAY AND GETTING BUSTED!!!

IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS--- LOVERS OF THE **SAME SEX** ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO GOD!!!

I DONT CARE WHAT VERSION OF BIBLE YOU READ.. THEY ALL SAY IT.. :)

DO YOU THINK THAT IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT A MALE AND A FEMALE CAN PROCREATE!!??? ITS A FRICKEN MIRACULOUS!!!!!

GET A CLUE-- GET OFF THE DRUGS-- SOBER UP AND THEN GIVE A STATEMENT!!!!!!

SURE LETS ALL VOTE FOR A GUY TO BE PRESIDENT OF OUR COUNTRY THAT **ONE NATION UNDER GOD** WAS FOUNDED... WHO WANTS TO BE SWORN IN BY THE --KORAN--

THE SAME GOD "ALLAH" THAT THE SUICIDE BOMBERS OF 9/11 KILLED MILLIONS OF INNOCENT AMERICANS IN HIS NAME!!! YEAH LETS VOTE THAT GUY AS THE PRESIDENT!!!!

SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!

HAVE YOU ALL FORGOTTEN!!!!!!! WAKE UP---

Amanda Williams, myspace 121 Comments [9/19/2008 12:47:22 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 47724

Originally Posted by BananaSlug
Can anybody else think of any predictions that we could test in order to find out if Creationism was true?

Yes --- science should be tested to see if any facts get updated over the years (e.g. the speed of light, the number of elements on the Periodic Table, the number of planets in our solar system). If the facts are constantly being updated, then I submit that it is only a matter of time before someone "discovers" that Creationism is true.

AV1611vet, Christianforums 20 Comments [9/18/2008 5:24:45 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 47666

Actually, what's funny is all the dates for the age of dinosaurs, the big bang theory, and everything else that scientists accept as fact today were formulated when they were still putting dinosaur skeletons together all wrong. There was no possible way to determine the age of these creatures, it was all just guesswork.

Rather than coming up with new ages that better explain the origin of the species, scientists just stuck with the original, off the wall numbers.

I don't know how old the earth is, but I feel very certain it isn't ANYWHERE close to how old they say it is.

Besides, what's Palin going to do? "THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD! GAH!" *hit nuclear launch button*. How does that have any bearing on anything?

aaronjustice, IMDB 22 Comments [9/18/2008 6:04:32 PM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: deicidal

Quote# 47610

If you are so sure that evolution is the only THEORY that has any scientific merit, then why are you so concerned about teaching an alternative and letting people decide for themselves? Moreover, how extensive have you researched creationism? I would encourage everyone to learn about as many scientific theories as possible and decide which they believe.

Anonymous, New Scientist 35 Comments [9/18/2008 8:09:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Imroy

Quote# 47900

Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:

Article I

The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.

The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.

Article II

As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.

Article III

Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.

The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.

The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.

Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.

Article IV

Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.

Pedestrian Infidel, Pedestrian Infidel 84 Comments [9/18/2008 9:20:11 PM]
Fundie Index: 11

Quote# 47679

People can become an atheist for many reasons. It could be a result of anger, frustration, resentment etc. due to some unpleasant experience, relating to a church or religion (although its not likely you'll get an atheist to admit it). Another could be the individual's inability to rationalize the concept of God. We all have a tough time with that, even the clergy have difficulty with the logic. I don't think we can reasonably fault, any person for that, because I don't believe anyone can fathom infinaty or omnipotence and omniscience, we just can't corral those concepts in our minds, so we can see them clearly. The belief in God, in my opinion, is reliant upon reasonable probabilities and faith, not the rationalization of impossibly imagined concepts. Many atheists are just trying to be rational, with out applying the unknowns to the equation.



[Dear god: if you really exist, please, give me one sign by making irony and stupidity hurt. Ahmen!]

Kravenhead, AnswerBag.com 48 Comments [9/18/2008 11:03:37 PM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 47781

actually you can test gravity lol quit trying to go in circles, most of the theories they use to try to prove evolution is outright boulderdash , i mean come on carbon dating? dating fossils with the dirt they are found in? or dating the dirt by the fossils they find in them? lol come on any scientist worth his weight in lab equipment can see that isnt science

Buckeyemike, WoW offtopic 33 Comments [9/19/2008 12:27:28 PM]
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Submitted By: worldsend
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