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Quote# 135152

Hey guys, I wrote a book on "the right to travel". If there is any case to be made for the sovereign citizens, I think this book is the best chance.

Greetings!

I am writing this correspondence to inform people that I am finally disseminating a project that I have been working on for the last few years. I have now published a book that I have written: Of Personal Liberty, The Truth of Motor Vehicle Infractions. If you have any time to spare, I’d greatly appreciate your audience for my work.

What is my book about? Well, first off, I want to assert that my book is NOT a discussion about how to get out of traffic tickets. Rather and more importantly, my book aims to examine the legitimacy of traffic tickets, and in doing so teach people fundamental principles of law that everyone should know.

At its core, my book is a discussion about freedom—in practical use. Specifically, the book enunciates the fact that if a person is free, they don’t need to ask for anyone’s permission before inclining to act. Americans today no longer practice freedom: it is illegal for us to do anything of sustenance unless we first acquire a ‘license’ or ‘permit’ (permission) from the government.

One of the many freedoms that have been deprived from Americans is their right to freely travel upon the highways. For a long time, we have been told that “driving is a privilege”, but this is a grave misnomer. My central thesis is that people should not be forced to obtain a license (ask government’s permission) nor meet other prerequisites before being allowed to privately travel upon the highways.

Our country’s backbone was designed to support a free society. Requiring everyone to get a driver’s license before they can travel upon the highways has led to a form of scoliosis; Constitutional provisions have been grossly reinterpreted, and basic principles of fairness (due process) are being ignored, in order to sustain our current trafficking system.

I’ve put thousands of hours of work into this book. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am diligent when it comes to my projects. I wouldn’t disseminate a publication unless I felt it met an acceptable standard of quality. I’m ready to share my book for dialectic.

I want to emphasize the word DIALECTIC. Take the time to understand the arguments and make them your own; then attack the arguments and see if they hold water. If there is a case to be made for the sovereign citizens, I think this book is their best chance.

The link is provided below: https://www.amazon.com/Personal-Liberty-truth-vehicle-infractions/dp/1508921334

personal_liberty, /r/Sovereigncitizen 5 Comments [12/13/2017 12:12:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 135153

Judges, and lawyers are sovereign citizens.

Judges, and lawyers use the sovereign citizen tactic when they get pulled over by the police, or when they are in court standing trail for the usual things those class of people do- paedophilia, rape, murder, theft; crimes involving harming another person, which are violations of natural, and common law, not just violations of commercial law such as a speeding ticket, which is what the run of the mill person exercises their sovereign citizen status for.

But then these same people get on message boards, like this one, and write "sovereign citizens are stupid, ignorant, morons". The reason they do this is because within their dark arts profession they are taught how to tap into their Cestui Que Vie trust, and withdraw equity to buy a house, car etc but they don't want outsiders to know how to do it, nor even that it exists, so when an outsiders comes into their court room, they can rape them for Cestui Que Vie trust equity.

And for the non judges/lawyers etc here is the Uniform Commercial Code 2010-2011 edition:

https://www.scribd.com/document/75735825/Uniform-Commercial-Code-2010-2011-Ed

Mastering theUniform Commercial Code

https://www.scribd.com/document/49192374/Mastering-The-Uniform-Commercial-Code-With-Forms-The-Application-Of-Commercial-Law-Under-The-Uniform-Commercial-Code-2004

rhinoqueen123, /r/Sovereigncitizen 4 Comments [12/13/2017 12:12:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 135128

There must be some discussion of the possibility that Hamlet is based on the life of Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. I realize the orthodox scholars hold on Wikipedia, and any discussion of the authorship question is brutally suppressed.

But many prominent people now believe the traditional story is wrong. A consensus for Edward de Vere as the true author seems to have arisen among the anti-Stratfordians. So it seems reasonable to give some discussion of Hamlet in light of Edward de Vere. To do so would be folly. The Oxfordian point of view is not a fringe theory.

HenryVIIIyes, Wikipedia 3 Comments [12/13/2017 3:45:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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Anonymous, /b/ 6 Comments [12/10/2017 4:11:09 PM]
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Quote# 134994

[Comment under "How Schools Are Dealing With Anti-Vaccine Parents"]

@Laura:
@Guest:
@k2p2inmyfreetime:
Good for them, and I hope the measure in CA passes, also. 20 - 50 years ago, schools used to be stricter about vaccination exemptions and we had fewer cases of measles and pertussis when they were. Time to go back to what works.


People forgot. They don't know any little kids who died, so they think it's not a problem.

Some people need to be punched before they believe being punched hurts. Anti-vaxxers are a symptom of vaccine effectiveness.


The problem is, of course, that it's the kids who pay the price.


To say that I am 100% wrong means that you are either an extremely stupid person or a for profit psychopath that I commonly call " propaganda prostitute ".

There has never been a scientific experiment conducted on vaccines, but observations on the effects of vaccines have confirmed that they are dangerous.

Common sense tells us that injections of " GMO-putrefactive-biohazardous material in a soup of carcinogens, mutagens and teratogens " (vaccines) can not be good for anyone.

Diseases are prevented with nutrition.Learn more. It is extremely stupid to believe that chemicals unrelated to living human beings injected under the skin can be beneficial. Vitamins, minerals, proteins, and so on exist in our body and can be used for strengthening it or curing it from illnesses.

Vaccines are a stupid invention. Other stupid inventions are the infernal ( instead of internal ) combustion engine. nuclear power, pesticides, GMO's, junk medicines prescribed by your stupid medical doctor that is actually a pusher for the drug companies , and so on.

There is no such thing as MEDICAL SCIENCE. Biology , chemistry, and biochemistry are sciences, but present day junk medicine makes very little use , if any, of those. If those sciences make discoveries against vaccines, the facts are hidden by the junk medicine robber barons because they want to make a profit with their junk medicine. What you call MEDICAL SCIENCE is really a faith based religion with stupid medical doctors as their priests. Those priests promote a system for curing people based on faith and compliance with a for-profit driven agenda, without relying on true scientific knowledge.

eggman2, The Atlantic 6 Comments [12/10/2017 4:04:10 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134936



[...]

Geometric principle:"Never the addition of straight lines can form a curve line or circumference"
Because of the addiction of two or more straight lines which produces is alone another larger straight line.

This way, the algorithmic method of addition of polygons' sides (inscribed or circumscribed to the circumference) is an erroneous and anti-nature method to solve the length of circumference, because of what produces this method are simply tangents to the circumference.
It is erroneous because of straight lines and curves have different dimensional characteristics (Structural Principle)


[...]



[...]

Philosophy of Pi:
The number Pi can't be a transcendental number, but a simple and easy to obtain number, also function of the inscribed and circumscribed squares to the circumference, as well of its diameter, like it is seen geometrically.
That is, as any other simple geometric figure, the circumference (or Pi) can be obtained by direct functions of its building parameters, as can be its diameter.


[...]



Nice explanation.






Fernando Mancebo Rodriguez, fermancebo.com 7 Comments [12/10/2017 12:31:46 PM]
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Submitted By: dxdydz

Quote# 134981

It is a bit suspicions that someone who was a quote "actor" was the guy who went into a pizza restaurant and shot a computer based on the official story of the events.

Then to expand the cast of weidos at comic ping pong has the music band heavy breathing with the band member majestic ape is doing stand up when telling a joke about enjoying the sites and sounds followed by random people from the crowd and little boys.

Pedofilea is a preferance - mejestic ape
https://www.youtube.com/embed/PR1w6IkpE6o

There is more videos then this. and there is also many other strange "performers" who visit comet ping pong along with the owner being a weirdo with weirdo friends who have weirdo child art at the pizza place.

Protesters outside White House demand ‘Pizzagate’ investigation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2017/03/25/protesters-outside-white-house-demand-pizzagate-investigation/?utm_term=.c0a11ebf92e9

The people doing something about the pedofiles had a rally outside of the white house. to try and raise awareness for missing and exploited children.

So hope I am getting across who is pro pizzagate and who anti-pizzagate.





nerosmoke, Newgrounds 2 Comments [12/10/2017 4:02:47 PM]
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Submitted By: WinAce

Quote# 135088

This man has lost his mind!! Earth is flat!!?



needtoknow2047, Youtube 1 Comments [12/11/2017 11:48:48 AM]
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Quote# 135065

An Ahmadi can never be trusted in politics. Ahmadis are always looking out for the best interest of Ahmadis, not Pakistani’s, not Indians, not Americans, Canadians, Britishers, Germans and etc etc etc. When Zafrullah Khan was foreign minister of Pakistan, he would always tell his Khalifa the business of Pakistan and let the Khalifa make the decisions.

This is how the Ahmadiyya Khalifa’s have operated over the years, they act as an invisible arm that controls all Ahmadis, especially Ahmadis with political power. Even today, Ahmadiyya INC is not owned and operated by the Mirza family, instead they have set up a global non-profit corporation with Ahmadis in legal control, not the Mirza family. However, as we all know, the Mirza family makes all pertinent decisions in the corporation, but it has other Ahmadis carry out those orders legally.

Ahmadis are not to be trusted. Ahmadis want to get their country. This is very dangerous. This is why the Muslim world will never trust them.

bashir1979, Wordpress 1 Comments [12/10/2017 4:10:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134943

Sir, respectfully, you are citing your personal and professional OPINION, in an albeit amusing piece. Unfortunately though, in this regard, the practice you speak of is outside of your experience. You can't be expected to know unless you did the research, which it appears you didn't. The links I give below I rounded up in about 15 minutes. However, there are literally hundreds of papers available on the subject.

The practice of geoengineering or weather modification gained the nickname "chemtrails" by vigilant members of our society. Certainly when strange activity goes on without informing the public or gaining their consent, some of us are led to research why. Do these scientists have as their nefarious goal population control? No, I don't believe so. They actually believe in what they are doing is good for society - certainly it is good for commercial interests. These days they are experimenting with cooling the planet down. A goal of folly as far as I'm concerned and weather modification overall is unethical because they have not gained consent of the population to be experimented upon, and scientists, and now commercial business, are using our shared environment as their private laboratories.

What is most disturbing is what chemicals they are experimenting with. Certainly the most common one is Silver Iodide based on the published reports. However it is difficult to get the information from the companies that do the work. I've tried. Perhaps there is something proprietary about the concoctions, just the same as the Fracking Industry won't tell us what chemicals they are using.

The first link I provide is from a major Canadian city 133 year old Newspaper. Very credible, and they don't do spoof stories. I phoned the Calgary Herald this a.m. to make sure this 2012 article was a bonafide story and they confirmed that it was presented as an online post and it also appeared in print.

http://www.calgaryherald.co...

The second link is to the company called Weather Modification Inc. You might want to let them and their customers know there is no such thing as what they do for their rather handsomely paid living.

http://www.weathermodificat...

The third link is to a 1966 US Federal Government's paper on proposed Weather Modification. It has simply come to commercial fruition over
the last 20 years or more.

http://www.geoengineeringwa...

The fourth link is to a 1965 paper of the US National Science Foundation

https://www.nsf.gov/nsb/pub...

The fifth link is to the boys themselves - the Weather Modification Group. You might want to let them know that the focus of their work for the last 70 years doesn't really exist.

http://www.weathermodificat...

The sixth link is a 2002 paper regarding the history and ethical considerations of weather modification:

http://www.rbs2.com/w2.htm#...

Now, I do (somewhat) apologize for my rather passive-aggressive presentation of the links, but I do get so tired of people just dismissing other people as conspiracy theorists and kooks when we are the ones that have done the research!

Vicki, Fighter Sweep 1 Comments [12/10/2017 4:01:59 PM]
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Quote# 135018

[Re. smart meters]

WTF is this nonsense!? RADIATION is OBVIOUSLY NOT GOOD. There is no "safe" level of radiation. Tiny radiation can damage DNA and cause cancer. These meters produce POWERFUL radio waves aka "RADIATION". If it weren't bade enough that these meters are producing powerful radiation, more and more sources of radiation have crept into the landscape on which this society lives, from cell phones to wireless internet and now Fukushima nuke meltdown has been raging and spewing radioactive material for a whole YEAR. A 1 whole year melt down of a nuclear power plant, that has gone China syndrome and is threatening to cause blackhole Earth. Added on top of all that radiation, powerful radio transmitters FORCED into everybody's homes, that can be hacked from external command EASILY, is OBVIOUSLY NOT GOOD, not right, it's CRIMINAL. While there is NO SAFE LEVEL of radiation, EVERY BIT of RADIATION is BAD for human health, the more and more radiation you're exposed to, the more surely you will get cancer and die. Is everybody who updates and maintains fkn corporate wikipedia disinfo a fkn traitorous shill? I guess so.

Danielvincentkelley, Wikipedia 6 Comments [12/9/2017 11:07:14 AM]
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Quote# 134885

No doubt. It's crazy how big pharma is so pervasive in trying to shape public opinion online. Crazy you were downvoted for not wanting mercury in vaccines.

alleyoops, r/vegan 5 Comments [12/6/2017 2:43:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134957

I think you have just seen the proof that the whole AGW nonsense is entirely false. The proponents have nothing at all, no evidence save imaginary computer models they have concocted.

They have been asked for evidence so many times, and failed to provide any at all, and refused to acknowledge the experiments of others which provide evidence that their claims are false.

They have shut down any other publication by means of the bogus peer review process, whilst reviewing one another’s work as satisfactory!

It is time for all this to end, and perhaps Trump is doing that ending.

davezawadi, Watt's Up With That 3 Comments [12/8/2017 7:58:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134984

Shepherd Fairey and the CIA

When it works domestically, the CIA—and other intelligence agencies—manufactures events. Since they are an arm of the government, they manufacture events in the favor of the government. “Hip” kids wearing T-shirts that say OBEY is obviously part of a larger event that is in the favor of the government, and I don’t think you need to have studied Orwell to understand that. It is to the government’s benefit, and no one else’s, that young men and women should think they are progressive when they are regressive, that they should think they are cool for wearing openly fascist signage. It can only be propaganda when the tag inside the shirt says Free People and the tag printed on the front of the shirt says OBEY. The fashions of the youth, the music, the drug culture, the false sexualizing of everything while destroying healthy sex: all these things work to the same end.

#conspiracy #shepherd fairey #cia #triangle #edge #edgy #manufacture #manufacturing consent #consent

tomzortman, Tumblr 1 Comments [12/8/2017 11:23:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 134954

when the CIA briefs the president do they pretend 9/11 was not a false flag?

israel duped some gyos namely cheney perhaps bush rumsfeld some pentagon etc into letting them pull it off

and now our govt has to pretend internally it was real?

no wonder we are completely fucked

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 1 Comments [12/8/2017 7:58:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134910

Ridiculous assertion. Very few boys went to a grammar school. The one in Stratford had one room and one teacher, which is the sum total of all that is known about it. No one knows who attended the school, and there is no reason other than wishful thinking to suggest that the boy Shakspere or however he spelled his name went there.

Most of those commenters sneering about the question of the identity of the actual playwright are just repeating assertions without facts and received ideas without reflection. Read the bloody literature - there is a lot of it - and then decide whether or not the Stratford man wrote the plays. And ask why the plays were not connected to him until a long time after his death. All the attribution stuff is just conjecture, The inverted snobbery of the more abusive commenters is absurd: no one is arguing that the Stratford man could not have written the works because of his class, just that there is no evidence whatsoever that he did, and a great deal that suggests he didn't.

But actually looking at the evidence is far too much of a challenge, better just to make statements as you do. Read your comment again, and think it through. Not a fact in sight, is there?

ManchePaul , The Guardian 5 Comments [12/6/2017 2:41:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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David Dees, Dees Illustration 6 Comments [12/3/2017 3:28:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 134699

Surprise, surprise, A Shakespeare academic, beholden to the multbillion dollar Shakespeare industry comes out against Edward de Vere. If there is any conspiracy in this case, it is the collusion of the academic establishment and the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust to stifle discussion on a serious and complex subject. Is it possible that Mr. Shapiro is concerned about his reputation and perhaps even his livelihood?

The Stratfordians have only three arguments repeated endlessly by their parrots in the news media who it seems are averse to thinking for themselves.

1) Oxfordians think that only an aristocrat could have written the plays.

Wrong. The accusation that Oxfordians are snobs is old and tired and obscures the real issues. This debate is not who could have, should have, or would have written the plays, but about who did. It is a question of evidence and any individual with an open mind willing to do some research will find it very clear that Edward de Vere is the author of the Shakespeare canon.

2) Oxford died in 1604 so he could not have written plays published years later?

Wrong. Dates of performance or of publication do not tell us the date of composition. Since we do not have the manuscripts, dating of the plays is conjecture and supposition. The astute professors and Stratfordian directors cannot explain why Shake-speare did not edit his own plays for publication during his years of retirement.

The Sonnets were published in 1609, while Shake-speare was alive, yet the Dedication refers to the author as “ever-living” — which means that the author is dead, but his works are still immortal.

3) There is a ton of evidence proving that Shakespeare was the man from Stratford.

Wrong. There isn't a shred of evidence that ever connected the author Shake-speare to William of Stratford. During his lifetime, no one, repeat no one has ever claimed to have met the man. Supposed records either refer to non-literary court records about the Stratford man’s legal problems or they refer to the author by his pen name, “William Shakespeare."

One must have a sense of curiosity, true open-mindedness, respect for evidence and the capacity to think critically when appropriating this issue. That is apparently lacking in this so-called Shakespeare "expert.” Mr. Shapiro ascribes everything to imagination as if a person's life experiences could just be thrown out of the window when writing plays and poems of depth and complexity filled with passion and humanity.

Concluding that a man who had little or no education, whose children were illiterate, who never left any writing other than six unreadable signatures with his name spelled differently in each one, who never traveled outside of London, who spent much time and effort engaging in petty lawsuits, who could not read books in French, Italian, or Spanish yet used untranslated material as his source material, who never left any books in his will, who left no letters, no correspondence, who did not elicit a single eulogy at his death was the greatest writer in the English language is not "imagination". It is fantasy.

howard16, The Guardian 2 Comments [11/30/2017 10:42:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134911

The ex-minister of National Defence for Canada said at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for decades and claimed top authorities are constantly in discussions with extraterrestrial beings. Paul Hellyer, who was the Canadian Minister of National Defence in the 1960's during the Cold War, claims to have inside information that top governments are in cahoots with aliens. Mr Hellyer first spoke about his belief that aliens were on Earth in 1995, and since then has become an authoritative figure in the UFO community.

Speaking to RT, Mr Hellyer said: “In one of the cases during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying South from Russia across Europe. “The supreme allied commander was very concerned and was about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. “They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for three years and they decided that with absolute certainty that four different species, at least, have been visiting this planet for thousands of years.”

Mr Hellyer alleged the alien species travelled to Earth from different star systems. There are apparently four types of aliens here on Earth. He said: “Many are benign and benevolent, and a few are not. They come from various places, for a long while I only knew about ones that came from different star systems, the Pleadies. “There are extraterrestrials that come from Andromeda, and ones that live on one of Saturn’s moon’s. “There is a federation of these people, and they have rules, one of them is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless they are invited.”

And in a dire threat, Mr Hellyer said the alien visitors have tried to warn the human race about the way civilisation is heading and alleged the United States has spent billions of dollars on so-called "black projects". Mr Hellyer said: “Decades ago, visitors from other planets warned us about the direction we were heading and offered to help. Instead, some of us interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions after.

“It is ironic that the US should be fighting monstrously expensive wars, allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on black projects which both Congress and the Commander-in-Chief have been kept deliberately in the dark.”

Paul Hellyer, The Daily Express 5 Comments [12/6/2017 2:41:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134881

Is the vaccine industry more like Harvey Weinstein or Jared Fogle?

Long-time Natural News readers know that the vaccine industry is more than just a scandal, it represents a direct health threat to all of us, thanks in large part to behind-the-scenes shenanigans between Big Pharma and the federal government’s healthcare approval agencies.

But perhaps the most sinister thing about the industry is the harm it does to those we seek to protect most: Mothers and our children.

And that begs the question — is the industry more like habitual sexual predator Harvey Weinstein, the Hollywood mogul accused of multiple unwanted sexual advances and activities against women, or disgraced Subway spokesman Jared Fogle, who was busted in 2015 for paying to have sex with minors and possessing child pornography?

J. D. Heyes, Natural News 5 Comments [12/5/2017 2:09:55 PM]
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Quote# 134889

A "conspiracy" is defined at "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful." The opposition to cold fusion has always been public. It is published in the leading journals, and headed up by plasma fusion researchers, the DoE, Scientific American and other mainstream organizations. They do not hide their activity. On the contrary, they brag about how they destroyed the research and fired the researchers.

Conspiracy is sometimes defined as an "organized" action. The opposition to cold fusion is not organized as far as I know. So it is not a conspiracy. It is academic politics, which are rampant in all fields of academia.

You have to understand that compared to other professions such as programming or engineering, ethical standards in academia are in the gutter. I have worked with many different kinds of people in my life, in the U.S. and in Japan. I have only encountered one group more corrupt than academic scientists: the mafia members who ran Las Vegas hotels where I used to install computer equipment.

In academic politics, anything goes. Tactics such as character assassination, threats of deportation, pulling strings to cut funding or cancel meetings, using the government to harass opponents and demand personal correspondence and tax returns, stealing ideas during peer-review, publishing fake data, and sabotaging experiments are widespread in academia. They are as common as fleas on an alley cat. I assume Robert Park and others were so quick to accuse Fleischmann and Pons of being frauds and criminals because they know that such people are common in academia.

JedRothwell, LENR-Forum 4 Comments [12/6/2017 2:11:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134844

The primary shooter was a Corsican hitman Lucien Sarti who shot JFK in the head from the grass knoll and he used a hollow point bullet and it blew JFK’s head apart. This is why the brain had to be lost. But Sarti was only one of 3 hit teams in Dealey Plaza, all consisting of foreign contract killers, who were connected to the Trafficante crime family, who were also deeply connected to the CIA, who in turn served the globalists.

There are witnesses, on tape, that confirm every preceding sentence. The hit was ordered by David Rockefeller.

After JFK’s death, everything changed (eg. nuclear arms race increased, the Vietnam War began in earnest, the Oil Depletion Allowance tax deduction was fully reinstated, JFK’s C-Notes were taken out of circulation and the NWO marched on and Rockefeller became even wealthier).

Why bring up the parallels to JFK when discussing this last false flag? I am already seeing a pattern where America is again stuck on the forensic evidence. I know the event is only moving into the 4th day at this point, but the “gaps” in the official narrative are there for all to see, at least those who have eyes that want to see.

Like many other black stains on our history:
texas chainsaw massacre
jim jones jonestown massacre
indian massacres in america
sand creek massacre
school shootings
port arthur massacre

The Las Vegas shooting will be among them.

Let’s look at the forensic evidence….

We are asked to believe the unbelievable. That this man, from the local town of Mesquite, had adjoining hotel rooms on the 32nd floor and over a period of several consecutive days, he stockpiled ammunition and at the latest count over 30 guns.

How did he conceal the guns from hotel security and most importantly from the maids who should have been servicing his rooms?

Would it be enough to “just put the do not disturb sign on the door?” That might work for one or two days, but several days? After several days wouldn’t the maids say something to their supervisor that the man in the two adjoining rooms is refusing maid service. Shouldn’t that have triggered hotel security?

And if the maids were in the rooms, where would the guns and ammunition been hidden? Remember, this is Vegas where security is trained to recognize and respond to threats because of the high stakes nature of the business.

We are asked to believe that an “out of shape and portly” 64-year-old man managed to expertly lay down highly effective automatic weapons fire, which ended the lives of 59 people and wounding nearly 600 innocent victims?

Meanwhile the accused assassin fired off thousands of .223 rounds. these rounds were fired from 400 yards away and as a result would have been outside their effective range. In addition, no shell-casings were “magically” cooled before they hit the carpet in the kill zone. Because if they were not cooled, they would have burned holes in the carpet.

“This was accomplished, we’re told, by one man firing 10 rifles… wait, no, 27 rifles all by himself, without any military training whatsoever. This same man set up a James Bond spy camera in the hotel hallway to monitor police in an attempt to defend himself against the inevitable police assault, then he just changed his mind and shot himself the moment the cops showed up… all for no apparent reason.”

The media has NOT successfully answered the question of how the assassin moved the massive amounts of rifles and cumbersome and weighty ammunition boxes past hotel security.

This wasn’t just a hotel. This was a Vegas hotel in where the security is “armed to the teeth and trained” to see these kinds of events. Why?

Because they have their gaming operations to defend.

The fact that this much killing material was smuggled unnoticed past trained security is NOT believable.

Adding fuel to the fire is the idea that this man installed NSA style security cameras in the hall to get ready for the police assault and then he turns the event into a suicide mission? This isn’t believable either…

Several military people have said, the type of gun that was used in the killing, from listening to the tape, over half of the “experts” identified the gun they heard as a MG 60 with belt.

This gun is very heavy and requires a belt. Only a very strong person could use this gun, shooting with one arm, while feeding the belt into the gun with the other arm…

And we’re asked to believe that this portly 64-year-old man accomplished this feat and fired the gun with incredible accuracy?

All of these massive casualties couldn’t be caused by .223 rounds that we are being told the assassin used, according to the official narrative.

Most likely, they were actually heavier rounds fired from something like a belt-fed MG 60.

Regardless of the gun, where are the shell-casings and their after effects?

A couple sources have said, “that in the unlikely event that .223 rounds were used, a target would have been struck every 2.3 seconds given the length of the event…

All of this from a man with no military training who was also an overweight senior citizen.

Congressman Trey Gowdy was interviewed on Fox News and he expressed his lack of belief in the official narrative quite clearly. Gowdy said, “he did not see anyway that an event of this precise planning could be carried out by one person.” And I would add to that Gowdy said, one person with no military training.”

Scott Bennett posted a video on YouTube that was taken down by Google, which showed muzzle flashes on, or near the 4th floor, and as the “timing problem” would indicate, multiple shooters would be needed to have carried out this crime.

coincidence is? The dictionary defines it as “a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance.”

How about the owner of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, MGM Resorts CEO Jim Murren, Endorsing Hillary Clinton after being a lifelong Republican? He Disses Trump.

The target? Thousands of country music lovers, usually known to have right wing values and many are strong Trump supporters.

This Massacre In Las Vegas and the Surrounding Facts Don’t Add Up!

Think About It, Think About It 14 Comments [12/4/2017 10:58:03 PM]
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David Dees, Dees Illustration 5 Comments [12/3/2017 3:28:15 PM]
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David Dees, Dees Illustration 7 Comments [12/3/2017 3:27:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

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"Scientists are not easy to convince, not not generally subject to mind control. That is, some may so be, but there are lots of them and it needs only a few to find a new extraordinarily useful discovery like LENR for this to become accepted."

Haha, you are way too naive. You think scientists are not like the rest of humanity - prefers to follow the pack, don't like changes etc. Etc.

"The whole point about LENR is that whatever conspiracy theory you like, it is strongly in the interests of individual scientists who have actually discovered it to publicise this."

Well.......If you want to publicise a new discovery, it has to be Peer reviewed and accepted by "real journals". Since cold fusion one Month after the press conference in 1989 was concluded pure "pathological science", there was no Journals that would publicise and no peers to review papers. And That's been the story ever since.

Or to repeat what the Nobel Price winner (in physics) Julian Seymour Schwinger said of his attempt to publish papers on Cold fusion :
"What I had not expected was the venomous criticism, the contempt, the enormous pressure to conform. Has the knowledge that physics is an experimental science been totally lost?

"It is not credible that science that is openly described could be suppressed for so long, if it worked."

Yes it is credible. Yes, LENR is openly described, but not in what is considered "real journals". So physcists lacks the interest and willingness and funding to investigate, since consensus is "nothing there".

The swedish physcist Stephan Pomp said it something like this : I see no Cold Fusion papers being publicised in credible real Journals, therefore I will not investigate the phenomenon.

So there we have Catch 22: the physics community will not investigate since papers are not published in " real journals", and CF researchers can not get their papers published, since all know it is pathological science and thereforee there are no one to peer review

oystla, LENR-Forum 2 Comments [12/6/2017 2:11:19 AM]
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