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Quote# 132608

In Wikipedia, the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is only rarely maintained and defended by editors using their real names. The problem is that the logic and assumptions underlying the hypothesis are so fundamentally dishonest that, like the press secretary of a tottering tyrant or failing president, anyone who becomes publicly and continually associated with them eventually suffers a damaged personal and professional reputation.

Considering the amount of work and risk involved, no one would bother for long without a direct or indirect special interest. What better solution than to hide behind a pseudonym, given that most editors use them by custom? That’s our opportunity. We dissidents went public with our views when we became signatories here or on our Facebook page, so there is nothing to stop us from doing the same on Wikipedia.

It's a curious situation: dissidents have names but orthodoxists don't. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

We suggest a crowdsourcing approach specifically to keep dissidents focused only on edits that will garner the most support from other dissidents. Template messages are the obvious place to start. Later, as informal associations among us congeal, more detailed text-edits among a range of HIV/AIDS articles (see above) should become feasible.

Use the Discussion pages for that, but don’t waste your time trying to reason with or convert pseudonyms. (If a rare real-name orthodoxist editor should challenge you, have fun.) And finally, be careful of burnout. Towards that end, try to limit your edits to one per article per day. Speed and convenience is the idea.

Rethinking AIDS, Rethinking AIDS 2 Comments [10/5/2017 10:59:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132607

Losing a debate about one of your most cherished beliefs? There’s a handy way to shut down such discourse, to discredit intellectual enemies employing pesky reading-and-fact-based arguments. Just call them out as deniers or denialists, as in the epitome of earthly evil, Holocaust Denialism.

Demonize your critics, to stop them from criticizing your demons. It works really well for talking heads, like New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, observed in December on Cable Noise Network putting down the global warming “deniers,” as he called them (while hawking the tree-killing paperback version of his latest opus magnum, “Hot, Flat, and Crowded 2.0: Why We Need a Green Revolution.”)

Not convinced? Then consult preachers at The Al Gore Church of Greenhouse Gas Bags, or medical science experts in The HIV-AIDS Industrial Complex. Listen to them shout about the apocalyptic meltdown being wrought by global warming denialists. Hear them exhort against the killer AIDS denialists.

The “tricking” of tree ring “data” revealed in the Climategate emails should be instructive to all free minds. Many scientists are just politicians with advanced degrees. They play their expertise card to propagandize for less-than-fully-baked theories--just like the best and the brightest domino theory’d us into Vietnam, those brilliant neo-con-artists WMD’d us into Iraq, and our super smart president fooled himself (and us) into the Afghan abyss.

As I tell my political journalism students, accept no received wisdom, especially when it comes from figure-ers who lie, and liars who figure.

For the past quarter century, the “denialist” epithet has been hurled at credible, well-motivated biologists, bio-chemists, physicians, epidemiologists, investigative science-and-health journalists, and other intelligent outliers with the temerity to question the scientific consensus behind the single pathogen theory of what caused AIDS.

Acquired immune deficiency syndrome, as it was labeled after first being called Gay Related Immunodeficiency Syndrome or GRID, really was--no denying it--killing thousands of gay men for about a decade, from the early 1980's to the beginning of the 1990's, when its incidence started to decline. But most of the interpreters of our reality, the science-and-math-challenged Main Stream Media, who wouldn’t know a biology lab from a Labrador Retriever, believe the drop in what has become known as “HIV disease” was a function of miracle drugs peddled by the pharmaceutical industry, the Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapies--that benign-sounding but highly toxic “side”-affecting HAART, introduced in 1996, three or four years after AIDS began to subside.

AIDS “denialists,” the first of whom was biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg of the Univ. of California at Berkeley, have been shunned from the free market of ideas. They have been denied entry to scientific and medical peer review journals. They are much like the “deniers” who dare question the received wisdom of The Gore-acle of Global Warming.

Having spent the past three years studying mysteries of the HIV=AIDS paradigm, I am ready to admit I am a full-fledged, out-of-the-closet, HIV-AIDS denialist. After some pretty intense book reading, almost daily internet-assisted document research, and considerable old-fashioned journalistic interviewing of knowledgeable sources, I have concluded there is not now, there never was, a “human immunodeficiency virus.” The single pathogen theory was wrong. A controversial view, to be sure, but one for which I can cite facts and fact-based arguments.

AIDS among gay men was of multi-factorial causation, from an unusually intense exchange of old pathogens in the aftermath of the mid-20th Century sexual revolution; an unprecedented ingestion of toxins, in the form of recreational drugs; and the psychogenically health damaging effects of being a hated minority group--all of which were immuno-suppressive in a subset of gay men who ghetto-ized themselves in urban America after the late 1960's.

And heterosexual AIDS in Africa? It’s just the name given by western medicine men to health harm from old immuno-suppressive malnutrition and unclean drinking water, and a high incidence of old diseases like tuberculosis and malaria--not the result of a wily retrovirus that never caused a heterosexual epidemic of AIDS in the white West.

I published the results of my study in an 8,000-word piece at my web site on the internet, about the only place we denialists can give voice to our dissent, and even there it’s difficult. I learned that December 7, when a guest commentary I wrote on AIDS and Big Pharma was erased Soviet-style from the popular Wall Street web site founded by CNBC’s Jim Cramer, TheStreet.com, after being up only four hours. I made the mistake of mentioning one of the powerful purveyors of anti-retrovirals, Gilead Sciences, Inc.

You can read my thoughts on the mysteries of HIV-AIDS here: End to AIDS Nearer Than We Think? Re-appraising HIV in its 25th Anniversary Year. And you can see the trailer for a new documentary film here: "House of Numbers," which raises questions about the single pathogen theory of AIDS.

"Give the people a new word and they think they have a new fact," Willa Cather wrote. The acronym HIV-AIDS is not even a word, let alone a fact.

Terry Michael, Terry Michael 4 Comments [10/5/2017 10:59:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132604

DEPORT ALL Muslim migrants — the Armies of Barbaric Warlord Mohammad.

Warn Muslim invader boats that if they don’t turn around they’ll be blown out of the water — NO rescues!

Alas, our ruthless leaders refuse to do what they’re paid to do by our native taxpayers — PROTECT Our People.

Our leaders are profoundly EVIL. They’re importing Warlord Moahmmad’s Armies to wage WAR Against our people.

Our people must form civilian defense groups!!!!!

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 0 Comments [10/5/2017 10:57:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132603

We have only one real enemy in this world (outside of Satan), and it’s not the DPRK or Iran, it’s Israel itself.

The Zionist Entity demands a tribute of $4 billion a year from its #1 vassal, the US, money that could be much better used right here at home. Among these home uses of this $4 billion/yr. would be a huge reduction of student debt, and even its elimination. College and University tuition could be greatly reduced.

Students shouldn’t be forced to take out such tremendous loans in order to continue their education, and this is where the universities/colleges must come in. Their tuition’s way too high for middle and working class students.

The $4 billion sent as tribute to Israel must end immediately, so that universities and colleges may greatly reduce their tuition rates to a level more amiable to potential students and their parents. We have to completely break away from the Zionist Entity’s tentacles and end the $4 billion tribute before we can provide college and university level education for our children w/o having to take out usurious loans.

Eileen Kuch, Real Jew News 0 Comments [10/5/2017 10:57:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132602

Israel is supposed to be a homeland for the Jews, where Jews may find protection from terrorism, as every day there are one or more acts of terrorism in Israel.

An important question that needs to be asked about Israel is the question if it is true or not that Israel needs to have continuous terrorism in order for Israel to continue to exist.

If terrorism ceased to continue to exist in Israel and elsewhere, then there would no longer be a justification for Israel to continue to exist, as the Jews would no longer need a homeland where they may find protection from terrorism.

Also if the Palestinians and Arabs would manifest continuous peaceful behavior, then Israel would then NOT have any good justification to continue to deny many of their demands.

Is it possible therefore that somehow Israel sponsors the continuing terrorism, so that Israel may continue to exist?

Without the continuous existence of anti-Semitism and terrorism, the rate of assimilation of Jews away from Judaism would be much greater than it is today, and therefore there is this Zionist need for anti-Semitism and terrorism to continue to exist.

B, Real Jew News 0 Comments [10/5/2017 10:56:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132580

Health care is death by doctor, after they’ve emptied your pockets, and have decided that they’re tired of paying your retirement pension.

Abolish health “benefits” and the price of real healthcare and watch for unnecessary tests (CYA and padding the bill) disappear fast.

Return doctors to independence.

Eliminate the Jew-controlled AMA’s monopoly on licensing. Stop Big Pharma’s promotion of harmful drugs and vaccinations.

Oona, Real Jew News 2 Comments [10/4/2017 10:41:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132579

This is a poor article for several reasons. Demonizing one's "opponents" always strikes me as a huge red flag. Historically, Blacks have been demonized for being black; gays for being gay; and liberals for being liberal. Does anyone here remember Joe McCarthy?

AIDS has become a big industry, where pharmaceutical companies make multi-billions in profits. They care way more about selling drugs, then curing AIDS patients. Also, the test is goofy. Why are we looking for antibodies, not the actual virus? Why are we taking Antivirals, rather than a vaccine?

We need to discard our dogmatic approach to AIDS and embrace people who challenge our ideas. Dissent is a good thing. We should have dissented much more vigorously when Bush invaded Iraq; likewise, we should have dissented much more vigorously when the FDA pushed AZT on us for 10 years. People should be free to choose, whether or not to take the drugs. If they work for you, great. But, sometimes they don't work.

Kent Z, TheBody 6 Comments [10/4/2017 10:40:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132567

Senior Iranian officials claimed Tuesday the independence referendum in Iraqi Kurdistan a day earlier was a “plot” orchestrated by Israel and the United States.

“The Zionist regime and the world arrogance [US] are behind this issue,” the semi-official Fars News Agency quoted the head of the Iranian armed forces, General Mohammad Hossein Bagheri as saying on Tuesday.

Although Bagheri did not elaborate on Israel’s alleged role, the chief of staff to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei claimed the independence referendum was a “Zionist plot” meant to fuel violence in the Middle East following the battlefield defeats in Iraq and Syria suffered by the Islamic State terror group.

“You may rest assured that it is a plot by the Zionist regime under such conditions that the ISIL is collapsing,” Fars quoted Mohammad Golpaigani as saying, using an alternative acronym for IS. Among numerous conspiracy theories posted on Arabic-language and Persian sites are claims that Israel’s Mossad agency is behind the rise of Islamic State.

“Now they have raised a new issue in the region,” he added. “[The] referendum and its related issues will cause many problems for the Kurds and the neighboring countries.”

In addition to the claims from top Iranian officials Israel is behind the independence vote, Turkish nationalists have said the referendum is meant to create a “second Israel.” Yeni Safak, a conservative Turkish newspaper loyal to Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has pointed to the presence of Israeli flags alongside “so-called Kurdish flags” at rallies organized by the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and claimed that the referendum was part of a Zionist plot.

“Israel, using Masoud Barzani and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) terrorist organization as pawns, seeks to obtain the area between the Nile and Euphrates, which is regarded as ‘the promised land’ in the Torah,” said an article entitled “Barzani plans to deliver ‘promised land’ to Israel.”

It added, “Zionists call the ‘Kurdistan’ that Barzani and the PKK want to establish as ‘Kurdo-Judaic,’ the ‘Jewish Kurdistan.’”

Earlier this month, Turkish media published conspiracy theories claiming that Israel was planning to repatriate Israeli Jews of Kurdish origin to Kurdistan after the referendum.

Mohammad Hossein Bagheri, Mohammad Golpaigani, Yeni Safak and Turkish media outlets, The Times of Israel 1 Comments [10/4/2017 11:05:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 132554

With all due respect, folks, Gilad’s observations about Jewish tribalism provide the only satisfactory explanation as to why otherwise progressive Jews including self-declared anti-Zionists have provided what to this point, has been an insurmountable roadblock in dealing with the two critical domestic issues germane to the Israel-Palestine conflict: the Israel Lobby/organized Jewish community and the question of US aid to Israel.

There is no other reason that I can come up with to explain why, outside of Mondoweiss, AIPAC has only become an issue in the past two years and then apparently only at MoveOver AIPAC last May. Sure, Chomsky and Zunes and later Finkelstein have deep-sixed the subject but that’s giving them Svengali like qualities they don’t possess. There must be something else that welcomes their dismissing of its importance.

And then we have the glaring question of US aid and the fact that there has yet to be a major campaign to educate the public about it and stop it. Instead, we have a choice of “End the Occupation!,” a useless slogan if there ever was one which has been either ignored or not understood by the vast majority of the American public that has no vested interest in either side, or at least didn’t before the rise of the evangelicals, and/or those pushing “two states for two peoples,” which, frankly, is of as little interest to the public as the problems of occupation.

But the public just might be CONCERNED about where its tax money goes and who and what groups are exempted from paying millions in taxes that benefit a foreign government. Why no campaign? Why no attempt to educate the public? (Sorry, BDS, is worthwhile, but it is not a substitute for the real thing.) It is not out of ignorance, I assure you. I have mentioned it before and will do so again. Some of the very same people were involved in a nationwide campaign to block the Contras from getting $15 million and they succeeded, which led to the Iran-Contra scandal. So why not aid to Israel? Looking at the composition of leadership of the pro-Palestinian organizations who I have known over the past 30 or so years, the answer jumps out: Jewish tribalism.

Jeffrey Blankfort, MondoWeiss 0 Comments [10/4/2017 11:02:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132531

There will NEVER be a full on Nuclear exchange. The Watchers will not allow it and have already prevented numerous attempts.

To summarize the documentary, hundreds of nuclear mussels, ICBM's, minute man silos, and plutonium facilities have been systematically monitored and disabled by highly advanced space vehicles for over 60 years now.

The documentary is based on government reports and official affidavits from multiple different nations.

Apparently a noninterference policy on part of the Watchers has allowed numerous tests, they always prevent an actual exchange. And will not allow an exchange in the future. Don't flatter yourselves though, they are only protecting the earth, not humanity.

Don't let the CIA fear mongering about North Korean Nunez frighten you. It will Never happen as the video will clearly show. If there is an alleged "EMP" that knocks out the grid, understand right now that it was only the establishment Deep State flipping a switch and turning the power off.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 6 Comments [10/3/2017 1:13:05 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132530

Islamophobes are patriots — NORMAL people who OPPOSE Muslim colonization, Muslim Conquest and the Enforcement of Barbaric sharia where intensely hated non-Muslims have no human rights.

The EVIL UN, EU, OIC, NWO globalist elites and leftists want non-Muslims to ACCEPT Muslim Conquest and Sharia.

NO SURRENDER, EVER!

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 1 Comments [10/3/2017 1:12:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132502

Because the media is numerically signaling — to those in “the know” — that this whole thing was some sort of setup operation. Those with occult knowledge will understand what I mean when I say “numerically” signaling.

322 is the main number for the Skull & Bones cult. The same one that John Kerry and the criminal Bush family are in — just to name a few. In many of these types of occurrences, you’ll often see “32” signaled in news reports.

They’ll also use “23,” which is obviously “32,” backwards. It’s usually some sort of backwards or forwards variation of 32, 23, 322, 223, etc. This happened on the 32nd floor, and he had 23 guns. See the pattern?

I mean, just ask yourself logically....why would anyone need 23 guns to do something like this? The answer? They wouldn’t. Makes absolutely zero fucking sense. Also, these guns are fully automatic.

They’re EXTREMELY hard to get your hands on (if you’re a regular person), if not impossible, even. The only ones with access to these types of weapons are big daddy “gubbamint” alphabet agencies.

Paladin2903, r/MGTOW 6 Comments [10/3/2017 10:42:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132483

[Thread on Las Vegas shooting]

I'm calling it.

This entire thing is a false flag.

The youtube videos look fake, lots of really bad acting.

Not enough (any?) blood or people lying dead.

The crowd is not reacting properly - they are far too calm and not moving fast enough.

If real bullets are plowing into a crowd?

SCREAMING. RUNNING. PEOPLE TRAMPLING EACH OTHER TO DEATH.

None of that.

The deep state needs guns out of the way.

This is what it's about....

Right124567890, Infowars 10 Comments [10/3/2017 12:55:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 132474

(This is a follow up to a blog posting that he's still going to give €1000 for a video of a rocket that is in the sky for longer than 17 seconds.)



-> Do you think I have to give 1000 euro for this video?


Now that 1 oktober is behind us with a LAS-VEGAS-FIREWORKS-BANG, I want to call people to give a comment to the video of Tyler Burden, that got 350.000 views.

Has it therefore been proven that it's not a real rocket launch that was slowed down in "the background"?
Or that rocket has the shape of a balloon that therefore slowly flies into te sky?
Who of you wants to be the "witness" of a meeting that I'm going to have with him?


(The video he's talking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGJV0P_r1Rs )


Mark Peeters, skynetblogs 5 Comments [10/2/2017 2:00:22 PM]
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Quote# 132462

Conspiracy theories and alternative research is a minefield where good information is hard to find and misdirection guaranteed. One of the facts we will have deal with sooner or later is that alternative research was not invented by truth seekers – the origin of conspiracy theory comes from the perpetrators themselves who have been well versed in tactical warfare from the get-go. To gain complete control the Elite (or whatever we might call the power-structure/hidden hand) appear to always have the ambition to control every side of any conflict or topic. To be able to do so, they design their own resistance with as much care (or even more) than their official and admitted roadmap. We might call this state of affairs a perpetual state of Psychological Operations or Controlled Opposition – you might not always see it but whenever you look closely, it is rarely missing in action.

The Elite seem to be the ultimate control freaks and leave no field of human activity untouched. Wherever the ‘Nutwork’ have their hands, disinformation follow. What this means for the tiny fraction of alternative researchers that are not covertly part of the power-structure is that we are inundated with new conspiracies and psyops. By now most of us have probably made that very observation; wherever we look closely, things are not what they seem from the outside. It is very effective tactics – we loose our motivation and focus as the rabbit holes get more plentiful, disturbing and ever deeper. This psychological strain makes anyone who offer a way out look attractive and gatekeepers thrive in such scenarios. The temptation is hard to resist, and many buy in – they close down their inquisitive mind. But they are played. To stop any inquiry because of the presence of disinformation is a logical fallacy the Elite incites us to make and that they have planned for us specifically. DBA (discredit by association) is an example of a fallacy that build on Conspiracy Fatigue (CF) and act to end even the most resilient researchers quest: CF is a graveyard of independent thought. And we might all have smelt the seducing perfume of resting within our own conspiracy comfort zones – only we forget this is not how we got to where we are in the first place.

SEEMS LIKE A JOKE TO ME
How is looking at a bunch of photographs and video clips of celebrities and then claiming each one is the opposite gender an investigation? This is obviously intellectually dishonest and it obviously requires us to have absolutely no real experience with members of the opposite sex in real life, no understanding of how biology works, an unwillingness to do a simple Google search to see how and why this is just fallacy, and a complete willingness to suspend all disbelief and believe whatever a voice on a screen tells us. – AA Morris (citation from article)

“A PROPER GANDER: Let’s All Commute To A New Future”

The “Alberta EinSTEIN – Theory of TRANNYTIVITY”: Is This Really Meant To Be Taken Seriously?
www.aamorris.net/properganderatpropaganda/2017/5/8/is-this-really-meant-to-be-taken-seriously

EGI is an observable fact we can verify by ourselves esoterically and (more strenuously) esoterically. Bruce Jenner, Bradley Manning, Chaz Bono and other celebrities represent the exoteric side of Elite Gender Inversion while Zeke Smith, Jenna Talackova, Caroline Cossey illustrate the most accessible esoteric side to Elite Gender Inversion. The existence of EGI both openly and covertly is in itself not really a matter of opinion – it is factual. However, many alternative researchers still choose to ignore or attack the research into EGI and/or expect there to be fair play at hand devoid of any contrivances. If anyone is in doubt by now – sex and gender are major parts of warfare and so is transgenderism. There is no fair play in sight and there is a coordinated effort by the Elite to control both sides of the current dialectic – both the open and the hidden agenda of EGI are targeted. As expected, unless you fold in to the fallacies and fear of gatekeepers using DBA or Conspiracy Fatigue to their advantage – then of course you might regress back in time to another comfort zone or just ignore new information and ‘move on‘. Like many serious researchers moved on from the Flat Earth and now once again are comfortably seated on with Max Igan’s Q27 flight around the spinning globe destined for unknowingness (and yes, i do include Jeran on that ‘double Zayin’ flight).

Fakeologist EGI Forum Thread (11 pages and some 200+ posts)
Attacks on Fakeologist.com EGI research is mostly done indirectly with help of the many YouTube channels that are trying to ‘out’ secretly transgendered celebrities by way of their Transvestigations. Many alternative researchers conveniently choose to mix the Fakeologist EGI research together with more eccentric Youtube channels in a targeted effort to discredit us and the topic itself. I invite anyone of these critical minds to discuss factually about Elite Gender Inversion – although i’m keenly aware that much of their noise is coming from a deceptive or biased (CF) angle focusing on to the sensational side and not what is brought up in detail on the forum-thread and Fakeologist audio content.

Relating to the criticism made in the (anonymous*) AA Morris article it is clear that Fakeologist once again is put in the same basket as popular Youtube Channels and indirectly ridiculed, in this case by way of using past radio guest Jon Humanity’s channel and his video of Albert Einstein in his heeled women’s sandals and appearance. While Jon Humanity has many flawed opinions on a wide range of topics, he still has the merit of doing in-depth analysis of celebrities anatomy and raise many pertinent question regarding Elite Gender Inversion. Regardless, it is quite deceptive to imply that this site and members share all or any of Jon Humanity’s opinions – when he’s referenced on this site it is regarding EGI – not his speculation on the Mudflood, Giants or the White Right.


UNreal, Fakeologist 1 Comments [10/2/2017 12:50:18 PM]
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Quote# 132454

The SHOOTING in VEGAS is just the beginning my friends, SYSTEMIC SOCIETAL BREAKDOWN COMING !

It is no joke folks.

Fiscal Disaster is imminent,

US TREASURY INSOLVENT, FEDERAL RESERVE JOKE, ALL US BANKS INSOLVENT, MULTIPLE STATES FISCALLY INSOLVENT, etc. etc.

What is coming will strike fear in the Heart of this Country.

Do not take their pill or drink their koolaide !!!

Americans will start to SNAP and they will be Patriotically motivated to defend themselves and their families.

IF forced into a corner, AN ARMED AMERICAN will DEFEND HIS PROPERTY AND HIS RIGHTS...so Help Him GOD.

Please people, try not to always let the MSM tell you they are crooks and wackos.

Sure some are.....but as this increases due to UNEMPLOYMENT benefits expiring, MASSIVE amounts of homeowners and families HOMELESS !!! There is much more to come.

It is very sad and it hurts me to see some of the Truly Patriotic Hardworking American Families suffering at the hands of the Treasonous Bankers, Wall Street and Blue Coats.

Emergency Broadcast System, Godlike Productions 1 Comments [10/2/2017 12:48:50 PM]
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Quote# 132452

Fun fact #1 antifa stands for anti firearms Fun fact #2: Alex Jones a.k.a. Achmed Yonaoua is a paid Muslim deep state agent not born in USA

Hannes Guddat, Twitter 8 Comments [10/2/2017 12:48:21 PM]
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Quote# 132451

Is the Vegas shooting a BLACK OP or Occult sacrifice? [Thread will curate all known facts & links]

Let's examine some facts pointing this to be far more than just a "lone nut" incident:

1) Paddock is a no-name, nobody. No record, no social media. Could be a patsy or MK-ULTRA victim. We'll find out more eventually.

2) 32nd floor, two windows broken, 9 windows in between, 11 windows in total. Smart people here know the significance of these numbers. There appears to be no logical reason why the shooter would break two windows so far apart.

3) Eye-witnesses reported two Hispanic individuals, a male and female, tried to warn everyone in the crowd that they were "all going to die" 45 minutes before the shooting. They made such a scene they were escorted out by security. L.E. has made no mention of them.

This alone blows a hole in the official story. Now we know at least two people had knowledge a shooting was coming, and when it was coming.

More details about this in this thread:

Thread: YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE' – SHOCK WARNING 45 minutes before attack (Multiple shooters???)

4) Paddock's "roommate" and/or wife is Marilou Danley. Her casino players card was apparently found in the hotel room, yet she is "out of the country" and not considered a suspect, according to L.E.

5) Marilou Danley's husband or ex-husband is 76 year old Geary Danley. His Facebook account is rife with Leftist ideology, dozens upon dozens of "likes" of every Leftist and anti-Trump group imaginable, including ShareBlue and most importantly, Rubicon Training Group, a gun training and gun course company.

Have a look: [link to archive.fo (secure)]

Geary has knowledge and a proclivity for guns, as a careful reading of his FB will reveal. Paddock and Geary Danley share one degree of separation.

Even though Geary supposedly lives in Arkansas, public records reveal he has a decades-long history of living in the state of Nevada:

[link to ghostbin.com (secure)]

6) The crowd was full of country music fans, mostly White and likely Republican.

7) Many reports of multiple shooters, including a report of a man entering Bellagio's employee entrance with a rifle and reports of bombs and suspicious devices.

8) The shooting itself required careful planning, including renting a hotel room specifically at Mandalay Bay, an east-facing room on a weekend, without going detected, while hauling in 10 rifles, setting up "platforms" and "cameras" and breaking two windows, each 9 windows apart in between (people reported glass falling, but no gunshots, suggesting windows were broken some other way). This careful planning suggests long-term pre-meditation.

9) "10/1 Human Sacrifice Atomic Bomb Planned for North Korea’s Hotel of Doom" -- See link for the chilling T-shirt depicting Chernobyl, 9/11, and Pyongyang Hotel on 10/1:

[link to alternativeinfotome1.com (secure)]

10) This was a month or two ago, Vegas cops ignored it:

"New ISIS video appears to threaten Las Vegas"

[link to www.lasvegasnow.com]

11) Last night's episode of Rick and Morty was called Rickchurian Mortydate.

12) Keep an eye on this thread:

Thread: Vegas thread last night.. now I can't find it..

More to be added as links and facts come in.

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While I don't think the shooting was a "fake" or a "hoax" like Sandy Hook, the following should be taken into consideration:

1) One of those creepy infamous Craigslist postings for "crisis actors" appeared two weeks beforehand.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

2) One eye witness claimed the shots were "fake" or not real gun shots:

3) Twitter user claims some eye witnesses are crisis actors:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Mike Grimmel, Godlike Productions 3 Comments [10/2/2017 12:48:01 PM]
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Quote# 132449

Far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has said that Donald Trump is being "covertly drugged" with small amounts of sedative in his drinks.

In a video posted to his website Infowars.com, the radio presenter said the US president had been fed tranquilisers for around two months and they were making his speech slur.

Mr Jones cited sources close to the President, but he did not provide any evidence for the claim.

“It's known that most presidents end up getting drugged," he said. "Small dosages of sedatives till they build it up. Trump's such a bull he hasn't fully understood it yet.”

“But I've talked to people, multiple ones, and they believe that they are putting a slow sedative that they're building up that's also addictive in his Diet Cokes and in his iced tea and that the president by six or seven at night is basically slurring his words and is drugged."

He added: "Now I’m risking my life, by the way, tell you all this. I was physically sick before I went on air."

Mr Jones then claimed: "They drug presidents because the power structure wants a puppet". He said that Mr Trump should have his blood tested by a trusted doctor.

Alex Jones, The Independent 4 Comments [10/2/2017 12:47:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 132441

That spectrum bullshit is a new way of getting kids hooked on pharam pills for the rest of their lives.

These little fuckers need their ass beat, not to be reading some bullshit rainbow scale to justify why they are little assholes.

Lack of parenting is the only problem here.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 4 Comments [10/2/2017 10:59:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

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French government officials and Turkish authorities are also reported to have been caught red handed selling life boats and equipment to refugees in Turkey. Billionaire George Soros, alleged funder of numerous revolutionary ‘springs’ and movements including the divisive race baiters Black Lives Matter in the USA, who also has a global network of non-governmental organisation (NGO) fronts operating under his Open Society Foundations, recently insisted that the European Union should spend a further 10 billion Euros to facilitate the movement of more than a million mainly ‘Muslim refugees’ into Europe every year from now on.

Brussels seems to be complying with the instructions of this self-appointed global Tsar. Soros is also alleged to be a front man for the Rothschilds. According to renowned Irish journalist Gearóid Ó Colmáin, the company that would mostly benefit from this increased EU spending is Equistone Partners Europe, an affiliate of the Rothschild-owned Barclays Bank.

Reports also allege that Soros and his cohorts’ geopolitical meddling have helped to create the sudden mass movements of people in general, allowing for the resulting integration of ISIS/ISIL members in to the mass of economic migrants and asylum seekers arriving in Europe. The end outcome being the potential chaos and clash of civilisations and religions that we have already seen glimpses of.

It’s a claim substantiated by numerous other sources reporting that thousands of covert trained fighters have been successfully smuggled in to Europe posing as migrants – the full amount being impossible to determine at this stage.

None of this should really be that much of a surprise considering that it’s by now being widely reported that it was the USA, Israel and their allies who created Al-Qaeda in the first place.  And it shouldn’t either be much of a surprise because, as mentioned, ‘Replacement Migration’ to deliberately bring in at least 56 million people from mostly Africa to Europe by 2050 is a very real and genocidal policy that has already been planned by both the UN and EU since at least the year 2000 – a policy carried out under the auspices of various inter connected globalist agencies and plans such as the International Organisation for Migration, Global Migration Group, The Africa-EU Partnership, World Bank and the cult of international sustainable development also known as Agenda 21/2030 Agenda.

And, as mentioned, the mainstream media who can only shout ‘conspiracy theorist’ at those who present documented evidence on such matters have become defunct bodies that the majority of people don’t listen to or trust anymore. It is a conspiracy though, that much is true. A horrific conspiracy against all of humanity, civilisation and all monotheistic religions. Our politicians and public figures have a moral duty to expose all of these issues and the EU deceit for what it is. In this they have failed us.

cymrusofren, Sovereign Wales 1 Comments [10/2/2017 10:55:42 AM]
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Morrissey has once again stirred up controversy by declaring his belief that the Ukip leadership election was rigged to ensure an anti-Islam activist did not win.

The singer made the comments during a live appearance on BBC 6 Music to promote his new album Low in High School.

Morrissey told the audience: “I was very surprised the other day – it was very interesting to me – to see Anne Marie Waters become the head of Ukip. Oh no, sorry she didn’t – the voting was rigged. Sorry, I forgot.”

It was hard to tell whether the former Smiths frontman was joking or simply attempting to be controversial. However, after his comments were met by silence from the audience, he added: “You didn’t get it, did you? You obviously don’t read the news.”

Waters was one of the most polarising candidates who stood to be Ukip leader, but despite being a frontrunner lost out to the outsider Henry Bolton.

Waters has been outspoken in her Islamophobia, calling the religion “evil”, and set up a far-right organisation, Pegida UK, with the former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson in 2016 to counter what it called “the Islamisation of our countries”. She was deselected from running in Ukip’s previous leadership election. Many Ukip members and MEPs threatened to leave the party if she was elected leader.

Waters finished second, with 2,755 votes to Bolton’s 3,874.

In 2013 Morrissey said he almost voted Ukip out of respect for Nigel Farage’s views on Europe. He said the Brexit referendum result “was magnificent, but it is not accepted by the BBC or Sky News because they object to a public that cannot be hypnotised by BBC or Sky nonsense”.

This was followed by an interview with an Australian news organisation where he said: “Liberal educators such as George Galloway and Nigel Farage are loathed by the BBC because both men respect equal freedom for all people, and they are not remotely intimidated by the BBC.”

Morrissey’s deep mistrust of news organisations inspired his new single, Spent the Day in Bed, in which he says the news “contrives to frighten you / to make you feel small and alone / to make you feel that your mind isn’t your own”.

Morrissey, The Guardian 2 Comments [10/2/2017 10:55:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

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First off Osama Bin Laden is DEAD. He was murdered back in 2007. He also worked 4 the CIA. The 9/11 attacks was an inside job by the U.S. Government. The 9-11 attacks was another way 2 bring forth the New World Order, which is one world wide government ruled by the antichrist. The people will have no freedoms or rights. They say 9-11 was attacked by angry muslims and they use the media 2 tell everyone in America that. Many americans were angered by this and many pushed 4 an invasion. The 9-11 attacks was just an excuse 2 invade Iraq and the nearby countries. Benazir Bhutto exposed the fact that Bin Laden was murdered in an interview and she herself was murdered a little after exposing that.

Hiei, Yahoo! Answers 0 Comments [10/2/2017 6:38:15 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

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Thanks to the liberals in crongress, we haven't been able to attack North Korea. We should've bombed them years ago and joined with South Korea to retake the island from the hands of the Soviet Union, but now they have neutron missiles capable of striking South Korea, Japan, Gum, Australia, Germany, Hawaii and the United States.

They also have neutron missiles pointed at Soul, the largest city in South Korea with over 20,000 people which they are holding hostage so that we don't attack them, but waiting has only made things worse. Far worse.

A lot of people think that sections of our big cities are the only things at risk if they decide to launch the nukes, but a single nuke could be used to destroy America as we know it...

I saw in the news today that North Korea has a weapon called an EMP which comes from detonating a neutron bomb in outer space. A single EMP from a neutron bomb would be enough to scatter across all the US and even though it doesn't kill anything, it destroys power grids.

Without power grids, there would be no way get food to everyone and we would all starve while Kim Jung-Un takes over South Korea and maybe even the North Pole and Japan.

At first, I was really scared that it would happen and my 3DS would be fried and Japan would stop making anime under Kim Jung-Un's rule, so I started crying really hard.

Then I watched a video where they set off EMPs on small electronics with the same voltage levels given by a neutron bomb and they were fine, so it turns out everything being fried was a myth and I stopped crying.

But then that same video said that anything plugged into the wall will still be fried and they did tests to prove it, so every time I charge my 3DS, a neutron bomb might fry it and I'm really scared.

I haven't been able to play it in days because I'm so scared to plug it in and have my New Leaf file fried, so I'm really bored and sad that Kim Jung-Un will probably destroy all the anime studios.

IT WOULD BE REALLY FUNNY IF HE WAS EATEN BY AN ANIME GIANTESS, LOL!

But even if I somehow save my 3DS, everything will still be destroyed without the power grids which really are fried under EMP voltage levels from nukes in the air. Everyone will starve and I won't be able to charge my 3DS anymore and I'll die of boredom.

Thanks to you liberals, I'm gonna lose my New Leaf save file and starve to death. Thanks a lot.

Peace! Save America!

RetroSpriteResources, https://retrospriteresources.deviantart.com/journal/How-we-may-all-die-707409782 9 Comments [10/2/2017 6:35:37 AM]
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We don’t believe the media when they talk about the President.

We shouldn’t believe anything they say about North Korea, either.

The current demonized leadership in North Korea is demonized with the same language used against the preceding leadership. That’s suspicious in itself.

Besides which, why criticize North Korea’s society when we tolerate Saudi Arabia’s treatment of women? Or Qatar’s society that has no elections? Or UAE’s?

Look at a map. They send rockets over Japan. Not over Tokyo. Over Japan. There is no other direction they can go and crash into the ocean. The US sends rockets over other countries all the time.

The whole thing is suspicious.

Owen, Free Republic 1 Comments [10/2/2017 6:30:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie
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