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Happy Holidays is the sensitive, politically correct, caring greeting to offer from Thanksgiving Day until Happy Holiday Day. After Happy Holliday Day then it is fine form to actually say Happy New Year. No one seems to be offended at the prospect of celebrating parties, drunkenness and the fleeting hope that next year will be better than this year.

Of course saying Happy Thanksgiving is becoming problematic because someone might think you are thankful to the God of the Bible. Thus, to avoid to avoid confusion, giving offense and a possible lawsuit it is just easier to say Happy Holidays.

Therefore, to offer a truly happy, non-offensive greeting all you have to do is to avoid the mention of anything that might possibly be a reference to Jesus Christ.

But, then it is fair to ask why should anyone be happy if God and his Son are not the reason for being happy. During the holidays people eat too much, spend money on friends and relatives they don’t even like, go into debt for things that will end up in the landfill, have hangovers and bad memories. What is happy about that?

You see the attempt to disconnect God from the holiday season actually leads to despair. In this politically correct world, the only logical response to someone wishing you Happy Holidays is why?

Of course you do have the reason to celebrate and know true happiness. You have the sure promise that your sins are forgiven. You know that despite all of the problems in life, that your God works everything for your good and his glory. Your gifts are expressions of love and gratitude, not attempts to buy affection. You know that happiness is more than what happens to us.

Look for every opportunity this Christmas season to tell others why your Christmas is a Merry Christmas. There really is a reason to be happy!

Jay Younts, Shepard Press 39 Comments [3/18/2015 3:28:13 AM]
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Goomy pls

Don't tell me to have a merry Christmas. I wouldn't spite you for that if it's an honest error. But I celebrate Hanukkah. Tell me to have a happy Hanukkah instead.

There are many people who are more inclined to take umbrage to mixing up holidays. If I told you to have a happy Solstice, you'd throw a fit. So don't tell me to have a merry Christmas.

3/18/2015 3:43:42 AM

Mister Spak

Muslims must be really miserable during Eid.


3/18/2015 3:59:50 AM

whatever

"No one seems to be offended at the prospect of celebrating parties, drunkenness"...

David J. Sewart identified!

Oops no hang on, it's a different name... probably still David with a pseudonym though.

3/18/2015 4:19:26 AM

Mike Litoris

I love the holidays. I'm also a salesman, and I recognize that not all my customers are xtians. Therefore, "Happy Holidays" is a perfect way to express that I hope each and every one of them has a wonderful holiday season.

Go fuck yourself with your narrow, ignorant world-view.

3/18/2015 4:24:37 AM

AJ Williams

"Go fuck yourself with your narrow, ignorant world-view."

Come now Mike, it is really hard to fuck yourself with something that isn't physical.

3/18/2015 4:41:02 AM

Pule Thamex

We could say, "Hey moron, let's celebrate Lord Athe's gifts of reality, sanity and not giving any money to arsehole-Jesus-jerks, so Happy Holidays". Of course, it's just easier to say the last two words, but you know what we mean.

3/18/2015 4:52:51 AM



Man, happy holidays is a comercial bullshit to capitalise the fact many festivities are celebrated in the winter Solstice. How can you be offended by such a trivial thing?

3/18/2015 5:16:12 AM

Passerby

People say Happy Holidays because there's a bit of overlap and it might be rude to assume. Also with the bizarre habit many religious folk have of never spelling out the word God or other religiously themed names and words (seriously, when I was a kid all the signs warning of crosswalks ahead were replaced with warnings of X-ings ahead because it offended people who thought it trivialized the death of Christ) I would think it would make those types a bit happier.

3/18/2015 5:17:05 AM

Doubting Thomas

"Waaaah! People aren't celebrating Christmas right!!!"

3/18/2015 6:20:08 AM



Or maybe it's just a catch-all way of saying "happy Thanksgiving/Christmas/Haunakkah/New Years/whatever". You guys need to stop getting so butt-hurt every time people don't do things EXACTLY the way you want.

3/18/2015 6:30:43 AM

creativerealms

No. I would not be bothered if someone thought I was thankful for the bible on thanksgiving. After all everyone is entitled to their own thoughts.

"But, then it is fair to ask why should anyone be happy if God and his Son are not the reason for being happy. During the holidays people eat too much, spend money on friends and relatives they don’t even like, go into debt for things that will end up in the landfill, have hangovers and bad memories. What is happy about that?"

The good memories. Your friends and family, the fact that you got to hang out and drink with these people. Really to think that the only good thing in your life is something spiritual that even if it exists does not cause the good or bad things in your life is pointless. I would rather be thankful for tangible things.

"You see the attempt to disconnect God from the holiday season actually leads to despair."

That's your problem, not mine. If enjoying time with your family leads you to despair you have problems beyond religion.

I will tell people to have a Merry Christmas, even though I don't believe in the biblical God.

3/18/2015 6:33:43 AM

Hasan Prishtina

After Happy Holliday Day then it is fine form to actually say Happy New Year.

So you're saying that Orthodox Christians who celebrate Christmas Day after New Years aren't Christian?

@ Mister Spak

Because of the way the Muslim calendar works, (either) Eid may occur at any time of the year. There are no set seasons for Muslim holidays.

3/18/2015 6:37:55 AM

Insult to Rocks

Need we consistently go through this shit? There is more than one holiday in December! It's just being polite!

3/18/2015 6:44:50 AM

Dan Onymous

It's so simple and obvious, even a small child would understand it. Lots of cultures celebrate in different ways near Christmas. All cultures have years.

So 'happy holidays' is inclusive and only a moron would be offended by 'happy new year'.

3/18/2015 7:14:39 AM

John

There's no problem with wishing Merry Christmas to people you know are Christians. But store employees and business owners don't normally ask their customers what their religion is.

3/18/2015 7:42:53 AM

J.T.

I was going to say this guy must be a blast at parties, but who am I kidding, everyone he know learned to stop inviting him long ago.

3/18/2015 7:44:52 AM

Philbert McAdamia

It's BLASPHEMY!!!11113!!, I tells ya - starting this Christmas crap the very day after the righteously drunken revelry of St. Patty's Day,
Criminy, I've barely got my hangover started . . . and a glorious one it is at that. I'm still looking a little green.

3/18/2015 7:49:59 AM

Swede

If you want to say "Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy New Year, Happy Epiphany", instead of just "Happy Holidays", that's your prerogative. I find the latter much easier to say…

Apparently, according to Wikipedia, "Happy Holidays" has been a common phrase used for the Christmas season since at least the 1890's.

Lawsuit? How can someone sue you for wishing you a happy time? I’d guess that more people threaten to sue when wished “Happy Holidays”, than when wished any and all of the others, combined.

Why should anyone be happy if imaginary beings are not the reason for being happy? Being happy is the reason for being happy, silly!
Just cause your Christmas get-togethers are horrible, doesn't mean that everyone's are.

What about the attempts to connect God to the holiday season? According to the Bible, Jesus was born in springtime, during lambing season. It was moved to the Winter Solstice when they wanted to convert the Northerners into Christianity. Later, when we exchanged the Julian calendar for the Gregorian calendar, it was moved from Winter Solstice to four days after.

My response to anyone wishing me Happy Holidays (or Happy Kwanzaa, even though I barely know what it is), is "Thank you!". To me, people wanting me to be happy is a positive thing. But, maybe I'm a bit weird...

3/18/2015 8:02:53 AM

Mister Spak

@Hasan Prishtina

@ Mister Spak

Because of the way the Muslim calendar works, (either) Eid may occur at any time of the year. There are no set seasons for Muslim holidays.

My comment wasn't about when Eid happens, it's about how the OP thinks nobody can be happy unless unless christianity is involved.

3/18/2015 8:39:34 AM

Kanna

Overeating, overdrinking, and overspending are all optional, for Christians as well as everybody else. Happiness to me is when the kids grew up and I no longer dealt with the fuss and mess of putting up a tree. I am also extremely happy when I can go out to the stores without hearing those relentless carols or, worse yet, grandma getting run over by a reindeer.

3/18/2015 8:50:59 AM

Scratch

"But, then it is fair to ask why should anyone be happy if God and his Son are not the reason for being happy."

I dunno, I like a good book, and Django is a pretty good movie. To my mind it seems an unhappy thing is sitting in a stodgy building for how many hours a sunday singing praises to something that, on closer inspection, is kind of an asshole. But to each his own.

3/18/2015 9:18:38 AM

NotaReptile

Its almost like there are other people that exist and don't get their happiness from our particular religion. But that's just crazy talk.

3/18/2015 9:21:50 AM

nazani14

I've got family Xmas cards going back to the 1930s. Even in a Catholic family, there were lots of secular greetings, notably "season's greetings," and "happy holidays."

BTW, does it upset you when Hindus and Muslims wish their friends a merry Christmas? I hear that a lot, and it's clear that they're referring to the holiday as a secular cessation of work/family gathering. But technically, they're blaspheming, so you should get all twisted up.

3/18/2015 9:25:25 AM

dionysus

It's not people saying Merry Christmas that annoys me. I call it Christmas, too. What annoys me is that you think EVERYONE should say "Merry Christmas" to everyone else during the entire stretch of the year from Thanksgiving to New Year's Eve. It's the fact that you demand that stores (who all on their own decided to be inclusive) HAVE to tell you "Merry Christmas" otherwise it's some kind of plot against Christianity. It's the wailing and cries of persecution (despite everything being catered toward them and Christmas trees as far as the eye can see in public) from Christians that gets under my skin. It's amusing at first but the combo of crying victim while simultaneously decrying "political correctness" every time anyone else gets anything at all gets really irritating after a while. The annual "War on Christmas" hysteria taints my excitement about the holiday season.

3/18/2015 10:05:48 AM



First two paragraphs make some cynical sense. You're not fooling anyone when you have nothing but Christmas stuff everywhere. If you really meant all holidays, you'd have things for other religions, too.

3/18/2015 11:12:14 AM

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