Quote# 108933

It's only a matter of time.

You read cases about christian bakers who have been forced to shut down or bake cakes for married same sex couples.

The Church will eventually be faced with this choice, marry same sex couples or you will be closed down and don't think that freedom of religion laws will protect us. They are being slowly eroded away. If not in our lifetime then definitely in our children's.

SAVINGRACE , Catholic answer forums 39 Comments [5/26/2015 3:14:33 AM]
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And if not in their lifetimes, then in their children's, and if not in their lifetime then in their children's, and if not in their lifetim- You get the picture. This guy is a moron.

5/26/2015 3:18:09 AM


Yeah, and Catholic Church is in deep trouble for forbidding divorced people to marry again, yes sir! Marry them or be forced to close down!

5/26/2015 3:44:11 AM


Next thing you know the coffee shops will have to serve everyone who comes in.

5/26/2015 4:24:00 AM


"don't think that freedom of religion laws will protect us. They are being slowly eroded away."

But then, folks like SAVINGRACE define 'freedom of religion' as 'The basis for YOUR legal rights is MY religious convictions!'

Which is why they think *their* religous freedom is being "eroded away" if anything *they* are against because God is made legal for others.

5/26/2015 4:26:04 AM



If you are a business, then you are required to offer the same service to everybody. If you are a church, you are allowed to follow your own churches teachings and deny people the services it offers (and get a tax break while doing it)
Governments are forced by it's own laws to offer the same service, such as marriages, to everybody, but Churches aren't, and won't be, forced by the government to provide weddings to everybody, or anybody

Yes, you guys have it so rough

5/26/2015 4:30:53 AM

Mister Spak

You won't be forced to do anything, your audience will just wander away and you will have an empty church where you can marry or not anyone you want.

5/26/2015 4:56:10 AM


If only that were the case. /sigh/

5/26/2015 5:12:33 AM


"don't think that freedom of religion laws will protect us”

Twenty bucks says he thinks that only applies to them.

5/26/2015 5:12:48 AM


Churches are not going to be closed down for refusing to marry same-sex couples, doofus. They are (not quickly enough, in my humble opinion), closing their doors because they can't keep enough warm asses in the pews to fund them. Humanity is finally seeing your mean-spirited and idiotic death cult for the poison it is and either drifting away from church entirely, starting home church groups or becoming 'non-practicing' (having some faith but not feeling compelled to spend any time shackled to a church).

5/26/2015 5:23:14 AM


Nope it won't happen. Churches are not businesses, they follow a different set of rules then businesses. Businesses are not suppose to turn away paying costomers but things like a church can turn away anyone.

5/26/2015 5:25:38 AM


Freedom of religion laws are nonsense when you have freedom of expression.

5/26/2015 5:38:29 AM

Goomy pls

You are not forced to marry interracial couples. You are not forced to marry same-sex couples.

You have to bake cakes for same-sex couples if you are running a business, just like how you also have to bake cakes for interracial couples.

5/26/2015 6:34:19 AM

What is these guys and their current obsession with christian bakers making gay wedding cakes? Is that a new trend or something?

You know what? How about if a competent and popular atheist baker refused to service Christian weddings but would do everyone elses? Would you like that, being discriminated against for no reason?

But fine, you want to lose money by turning away paying customers? Your loss, dumbass.

5/26/2015 6:57:32 AM


Freedom of religion laws are not being eroded, they are being enforced. Your religion is no longer getting special privlages over other religions. That are the laws at work.

5/26/2015 7:23:41 AM


If your church can refuse to marry interracial couples and not be closed down, your church similarly won't have to worry about being forced to marry gay couples.

5/26/2015 7:35:16 AM


What do you fundies not understand about the difference between PERMITTING and FORCING?

As for bakers, they are being asked to bake a damn CAKE! They are not being asked to officiate or participate in a same sex marriage, and they will most definitely not be invited to come along on the honeymoon.

5/26/2015 7:54:25 AM


...meanwhile in Griffonstone:

...it's only a matter of time.

And all it took was Pinkie Pie not forcing Gilda to take the baking powder she'd removed from the 'hammerspace' that was her mane, for her to use in the baking of that new batch of scones.

'You gotta share
You gotta care!'

GildaxGreta? You decide...! [/Shipping] X3

...oh, and this fundie retard is clearly living under a stone. Otherwise SAVINGFACE would've heard what the RCC in Ireland stated after the result of that referendum the other day was declared: That they now have to 'Take a Reality Check'.

The Protestant Church of England knew the game was up a few years ago, thus their clergy in the House of Lords dropped their opposition to the S-SM Bill in Parliament, which breezed through & was rubber-stamped by MPs in the House of Commons, thus became law.

Not seeing the C-of-E being 'eroded'; they're still here. The C-of-E a few years ago. The RCC in Ireland a few days ago. Change or die, fundies in the US.

5/26/2015 8:22:30 AM


You know, you frummies should just relax, let the world go Left-ward, let Progressivism progress, and thus (according to you) hurry along the Rapture & Parousia.

Why hinder the Second Coming? It seems you have either VERY little faith OR you don't believe any of it and just want to be a tyrant for FUN!

Why else would your ilk engage in doublespeak with all that jazz about "Religious Freedom", when you know that you can freely worship in your frummy churches and have your frummy beliefs?

5/26/2015 9:34:12 AM


Your persecution complex is showing

5/26/2015 10:01:51 AM

Yossarian Lives

"If not in our lifetime then definitely in our children's."

Well, that's one way of escaping criticism for being wrong. If someone questions this on your deathbed you'll be able to respond by saying "just you watch."

5/26/2015 10:28:55 AM


The Church will eventually be faced with this choice

In the US, churches are protected by the 1st Amendment. Businesses aren't. In fact, businesses have been forbidden to discriminate based on race, religion, sex or national origin for the last 50 years.

5/26/2015 10:39:34 AM


Oh, you poor little put-upon Christians. The big, bad government is actually making you obey the same laws the rest of us have to obey? How incredibly unfair! Why, before you know it they'll be making your multi-million dollar churches pay taxes! Then how will your pastors be able to afford purchasing and maintaining their fleets of private jets!?

5/26/2015 10:53:57 AM

To save my store from closing down. I am going to put a sign up in big bold letters in I DON'T MAKE OR SELL WEDDING CLOTHES TO ANYBODY! SO PLEASE DON'T ASK ME TOO. JUST GO TO ANOTHER STORE. Why will I do that because people only get marry once, so what the point of make a wedding dress or suit. I am not going to deal with gay couples, of course I am not make one even for a straight couple. Too bad it's my store, so that means I don't have to make or sell certain type of clothes.

5/26/2015 11:49:55 AM

We don't have to marry the same sex couple.

5/26/2015 11:52:48 AM

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