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A good way to measure the worth of an economy is to ask, "Would my life be better or worse without industry [X]?"
If assembly line construction of heavy manufactured goods never existed? Worse.
If smartphones, Google, Faceborg, and Twatter never existed? On balance, better.

Heartiste, Gab 20 Comments [8/8/2017 11:30:01 PM]
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Giving it a "wtf" for "Faceborg" and "Twatter" alone.

8/9/2017 12:41:55 AM

Bob Dole

I'll confess to harboring a degree of nostalgia for pre-smartphone and Facebook (not necessarily pre-social media, as Myspace and Friendster existed) internet, but the sentiment here is a mild version of Heartiste's Luddite tendencies that impact more than shitposting (not to mention that while Google+ is a joke their search engine pretty much holds the internet together).

8/9/2017 3:51:32 AM


Old man yells at cloud again.

8/9/2017 4:16:24 AM

Ambulance Chaser

I think we'd all be better off if you weren't on the internet too.

8/9/2017 4:30:52 AM

Phil O'Macedon

Any technological implement or instrumentation is just a tool, a thing. It's use is dependent upon it's significance to the culture that is utilizing it. I do, however, think that gaming and media's ability to submerge users into an inacurate comprehension of the realities of everyday life, to the point that a grasp of reality (what a concept!) becomes tenuous, is at least partly responsible for the decline of critical thinking in the U.S.A.. And in that way, it sucks.

8/9/2017 4:34:04 AM


Any answer to the question "Would my life be better or worse without industry [X]?" is subjective.

8/9/2017 6:16:07 AM


Oh well, if you find that a subjective worth is a useful measure...of course, we wouldn't be hearing from you any more, so on balance, that's an improvement.

8/9/2017 6:22:49 AM


Our lives would be better without people like you on those things you hate but apparently use anyway.

8/9/2017 6:45:30 AM

Bob Dole

@Phil O'Macedon

While I enjoy Twitter's shenanigans more than I should, I have to admit it probably played a large role in this decade's political weirdness. Social media in general is at fault, but Twitter in particular brings internet forum pathology dangerously close to meatspace (Facebook is based around friend networks so it doesn't drift TOO far from the real world, Tumblr and its ilk might as well be conventional internet communities, and Snapchat/Instagram are arms of Facebook/Twitter/Tumblr more than their own thing).

Of course, sealing it all away won't really fix the underlying problem, which would rear itself some other way in any event; it's not like social media is completely novel to the human condition.

8/9/2017 6:51:28 AM

Thinking Allowed

...says the guy who posted on the internet.

8/9/2017 7:27:13 AM


If you honestly think that you'd be better off without search engines, social networks, and easy access to most of mankind's information, then you're welcome to live with them.

The internet would be a much better place without these guys, and the world would be much better if they didn't use the internet to coordinate their activities.

8/9/2017 8:02:44 AM


I agree. I think we should all just go back to throwing poo at each other! Ook. Ook!

8/9/2017 8:27:05 AM


If you hate industry, Shateau Fartiste, stop using that computer. [/Quantum Mechanic]

8/9/2017 8:54:23 AM

Jamaican Castle

@Bob Dole: We had Bleeding Kansas without Twitter. They elected the Nazis and overthrew the Czar without Twitter. Demagoguery has always been around. Maybe it reaches people slightly more rapidly these days, but it's all the same psychology as it was handing out grain in the Roman Republic.

8/9/2017 9:25:41 AM

Doubting Thomas

If you don't like it, don't use it. I don't have a Twitter account or ever read anyone's tweets. Google and other search engines are extremely helpful to find information.

8/9/2017 1:29:07 PM

The Crimson Ghost

CH, your little jokes like "Faceborg" & "Twatter" are not funny. You are not funny.

8/9/2017 1:47:42 PM

Get the hell off the internet.

8/9/2017 1:53:36 PM

Pink Jackboots

>If smartphones, Google, Faceborg, and Twatter never existed

Donald Trump would never have gotten the nomination, push, or presidency

8/9/2017 5:53:14 PM

The Angry Dybbuk

Right, CH: The backbone of your communication with the outside world - you'd prefer stencilling your shit old school then copying it via mimeograph so you can hand it out while wearing nothing but a trenchcoat with no belt.

8/9/2017 7:41:05 PM

Demon Duck of Doom

Really? The Internet and social media are the only reason I have friends, given how bad my mental illnesses are.

8/10/2017 1:46:29 AM

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