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all i see is a bunch of evolutionists on here whining. you know, all Darwin had a doctorate of THEOLOGY! he started as a creationist, a minister in the Catholic Church, and then decided to abandon his faith when he invented his theory. Darwin was never a scientist. And as far as I know, in all the years of science that was taught to me in high-school and college, the teachers all taught that the science could NEVER PROVE ANYTHING, REPEAT, ANYTHING!!! Look it up in your forgotten textbooks, science cannot prove anything. Just think about the whole thing about the solar system. Hundreds of years of thinking about the earth being the center of the universe was thrown out the window, yet just before, everybody in the world thought that it was fact! Lol. We're all entitled to our own view about how the world works, and we can peacefully debate it to our hearts content. But in an effort to be fair to our children, we should teach all theories in our schools, not that I personally believe in all those theories, but it should be our children's choice as to what to believe. Personally, I think we're all being a little bit childish as to our beliefs, lets all just agree to disagree.

weasle886, Popsci.com 40 Comments [5/28/2008 10:16:04 AM]
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szena

Science can never prove anything, therefore non-scientific mythologies are just as valid?

When Darwin was in the university there was no such thing as a degree in science. You have no such excuse.

5/28/2008 10:28:28 AM

anevilmeme

No we can't all agree to disagree. Science is based on evidence and is our only method of understanding and surviving in the world we live in. Your bullshit mythology achieves neither of those tasks, so sit down and shut up.

5/28/2008 10:32:14 AM

James

Science can never prove anything definitively. However, it can prove things to within an arbitrary accuracy.

If you want to cling to your pathetic googol^(-googol) probability that the Earth is only 6000 years old (a probability that decreases every single time something is dated as older than 6000 years with radiometric dating), feel free to do so, but don't blame us for thinking you're stupid and desparate.

5/28/2008 10:38:48 AM

Illuminatalie

"Hundreds of years of thinking about the earth being the center of the universe was thrown out the window, yet just before, everybody in the world thought that it was fact!"
How do you know it isn't? I thought that science never proved anything?

5/28/2008 10:50:43 AM

Robbie

Oh, please. I won't agree do disagree about this anymore than I would agree to disagree that the moon is made out of cheese.

EVOLUTION.
IS.
A.
FACT.

5/28/2008 10:52:48 AM

Frege

So it's OK to beleive that the sky is just a dome above our flat earth and that if you go too far from land you'll fall off the edge?
Sure, it's OK to beleive that, but if you do then you need a serious reality check.

The same goes for numerous other myths, many of which are found in religious books that many people still beleive in.

5/28/2008 11:04:15 AM

aaa

LHC, Proof that science works.

5/28/2008 11:09:33 AM

MK

"science cannot prove anything"

Way to blow something out of context and out of its real meaning.

"Hundreds of years of thinking about the earth being the center of the universe was thrown out the window, yet just before, everybody in the world thought that it was fact!"

Well darn that ol' science for improving our knowledge of the universe. Where'd we get the idea of the earth being the center of the universe, anyway? The BIBLE, maybe? MYTHOLOGY, dunce?

"We're all entitled to our own view about how the world works"

But you're not entitled to pass your view off as reality to school children.

"we should teach all theories in our schools"

We do, or at least those theories that are appropriate for each age group. What's that? No, sorry, Creationism is not a theory.

"Personally, I think we're all being a little bit childish as to our beliefs"

You are surrounded by a hall of mirrors, evidently.

5/28/2008 11:11:53 AM

Anna Ghislaine

If we have to "teach all theories" by including creationism alongside evolution (notwithstanding that creationism isn't a theory -- hell, it isn't even a testable hypothesis -- but fundies seem to be unaware of what a theory is), then we must also teach alchemy alongside chemistry, phrenology and the four humours in biology, astrology alongside astronomy, etc. All theories means all theories, and creationism holds no more water than quackery like phrenology.

5/28/2008 11:25:11 AM

fromdownunder

"you know, all Darwin had a doctorate of THEOLOGY! he started as a creationist, a minister in the Catholic Church"

No, he never finished his theology degree, he went on a little ship cruise instead, no he was never a YEC, and no, he was not a Roman Catholic - he was of the Church of England.

After three mistakes in the first sentence, I did not bother reading further.

Norm

5/28/2008 11:37:46 AM

Blackclaw

"But in an effort to be fair to our children, we should teach all theories in our schools, not that I personally believe in all those theories, but it should be our children's choice as to what to believe."

Well at least then we could agree that the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory of creation should be taught.

But I must admit I'm a bit nervous about teaching children that it's up to them what to believe. Once they achieve adulthood, that's certainly true. But perhaps we should stick to the facts during thier education process. I don't see good things coming from letting them decide for themselves that fire is bad for the skin, that arsenic isn't good to digest in high quantities, that gravity doesn't count if you just refuse to believe in it, or that Newton's first law doesn't always apply to unbuckled passengers in a car hitting a cement barracade at 30 mph.

5/28/2008 11:46:29 AM

MarkS

very slippery and reasonable sounding, but ultimately bullshit. theories require evidence and your book of myths doesn't count. i particularly dont like this one because they're trying to decieve while getting religion into schools. weasel is right.

5/28/2008 11:47:09 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Lying won't help you.

5/28/2008 11:51:33 AM

xander8

Science may not prove anything, but theology doesn't even getting off its ass and try.

5/28/2008 12:17:27 PM

J-Hay

"Hundreds of years of thinking about the earth being the center of the universe was thrown out the window, yet just before, everybody in the world thought that it was fact!"

It's true, people did believe the earth was the center of the universe. Why? Because of RELIGION. That's right asshole. It was religious retards such as yourself who insisted that the earth was the center of the universe and that the sun revolved around it and when science proved that this was a load of horseshit you mental midgets still kept insisting that you were right and science is wrong. Hmmm, sounds familiar doesn't it? No, I don't I expect you to know what I'm talking about. Just go outside and play.

5/28/2008 12:30:33 PM

m52nickerson

I don't need science to PROVE you are a moron, you did it for me!

5/28/2008 12:35:36 PM

ID82

We don't go to school to try and believe in different theories we go to school to learn.

5/28/2008 12:38:42 PM

jsonitsac

Wasn't Darwin a member of the Church of England?

5/28/2008 1:39:06 PM

Ambrielle

The fact that he abandoned theology in favour of evidential science ought to tell you something.
The only reason people thought the earth was the centre of everything was because the Church told them to think that.

5/28/2008 1:43:48 PM

Darn

You should have attented some classes when you were young, instead of skulking in the restroom with your fingers stuffed in your ears, humming ... "goddidit, godditit, goddidit"

Ignoramus Maximus Ultima award granted

5/28/2008 2:13:38 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

But in an effort to be fair to our children, we should teach all theories in our schools, not that I personally believe in all those theories, but it should be our children's choice as to what to believe.

Belief is determined by thought and deduction; if evidence and rational analysis lead you to one particular conclusion, only an idiot or a mental defective would choose to simply disregard that and believe something else to be true. I'm not sure if it would even be possible for a fully sane person to deliberately, consciously change their convictions to something other than what logical thought told them to be true.

5/28/2008 2:47:40 PM

Horsefeathers

"all i see is a bunch of evolutionists on here whining. you know, all Darwin had a doctorate of THEOLOGY! he started as a creationist, a minister in the Catholic Church, and then decided to abandon his faith when he invented his theory."

Evidence often leads those intelligent enough to understand it away from religion.

"Darwin was never a scientist."

Not by degree perhaps, but he performed science thus making him a scientist.

"And as far as I know, in all the years of science that was taught to me in high-school and college, the teachers all taught that the science could NEVER PROVE ANYTHING, REPEAT, ANYTHING!!! Look it up in your forgotten textbooks, science cannot prove anything."

Nothing in science is ever "proven," only supported with evidence. Unless you were taking college level science classes then I wouldn't expect them to repeat anything as you were supposed to be learning how science worked, not actually conducting it. Repetition of experiments comes later when you actually do science, not just learn about it.

"Just think about the whole thing about the solar system. Hundreds of years of thinking about the earth being the center of the universe was thrown out the window, yet just before, everybody in the world thought that it was fact! Lol."

E-v-i-d-e-n-c-e you moron. Evidence supported their claim that the earth is not the center of the universe which is why it convinced people you twit.

"We're all entitled to our own view about how the world works, and we can peacefully debate it to our hearts content."

No, we're all entitled to agree with reality or be locked in a small room with rubber wallpaper.

"But in an effort to be fair to our children, we should teach all theories in our schools, not that I personally believe in all those theories, but it should be our children's choice as to what to believe."

You stupid fuck. Reality is not a consensus vote. All viewpoints are not valid you half-wit.

"Personally, I think we're all being a little bit childish as to our beliefs, lets all just agree to disagree."

Oh, shut up.

5/28/2008 2:52:37 PM

tmr

Well, most people live and learn. Theories and concepts change as more knowledge is gained.

Unlike religion that is stuck in 2000 year old man made ideas.

Progress. Advancement. Education. Learning. Knowledge. Experience. Experiments. All have great impact on science and the world.

Unless, of course, you are a fundie who can't see beyond a book of myths.

5/28/2008 3:32:09 PM

anonymous_troy

Well, we proved since then that science can actually prove anything with the right evidence.

5/28/2008 4:20:50 PM

jc

It wouldn't have made a difference if Darwin had renounced evolution. He would just be wrong.

5/28/2008 4:51:58 PM

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